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Evo1883

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,986
Weirdos , the lot of them , absolute danger to kids
 
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JAM See

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,987
Evo1883 said:
Why don't you go straight to the jugular, it includes ALL school children which would include children down to the age of 4

What kind of weirdo supports this nonsense in schools


Supporting transgender young people in schools: guidance for Scottish schools

Guidance for schools on supporting transgender young people
t.co
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Maybe we should make the transgender kids have their own water fountains, and not use the ones reserved for the white non-transgender kids.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,988
JAM See said:
Maybe we should make the transgender kids have their own water fountains, and not use the ones reserved for the white non-transgender kids.
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Freak , we are talking about kids as young as 4 you absolute tampon...
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,989
dubed said:
What is it in there that you find problematic?
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These kids can be as young as 4 .. are you broken ?

Without parental knowledge or consent ? Are you OK?
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,990
dubed said:
You cannot make anybody non-binary or transgender, any more than you can make anybody gay. The proposal is simply aimed at allowing kids a safe space and not challenging them. In fact, it's about not enforcing the view of another, outside of parenthood. Approbation and correction to behave in a binary way is damaging. I know.
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Not going to get into this because I know it’s personal, but literally no one is taking about behaving “in a binary way”.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,991
shmmeee said:
Not going to get into this because I know it’s personal, but literally no one is taking about behaving “in a binary way”.
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Fuck personal , keep these weird fuxkers away from young kids
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,992
dubed said:
What is it in there that you find problematic?
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Its overlaying fringe ideology we as a society haven’t fully worked out onto four year olds. School isn’t there for that.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,993
dubed said:
What is exactly that is happening with parental consent?
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Can't be arsed ... FOUR YEARS OLD
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,994
dubed said:
And fuck you!
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Fuxk you too , weird c**t
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,995
Evo1883 said:
Fuck personal , keep these weird fuxkers away from young kids
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Think that’s over the line mate TBH.

I agree four year olds shouldn’t be taught tumblr gender ideology. I have no problem with adults behaving however makes them feel comfortable as long as they’re not bothering harming anyone else.

Edit: bothering was the wrong word
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,996
shmmeee said:
Think that’s over the line mate TBH.

I agree four year olds shouldn’t be taught tumblr gender ideology. I have no problem with adults behaving however makes them feel comfortable as long as they’re not bothering anyone else.
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Neither do I... leave the kids alone , I crossed no line .. governments are crossing lines coming after the kids
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,997
dubed said:
What is this fringe ideology?
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Can you tell me what the following words mean:

- sex
- gender
- trans
- gender identity

Because whatever you say will not be consistent with a bunch of other people with similar beliefs and isn’t believed by the vast majority of people. That’s what makes it fringe.

There’s also a very basic safeguarding element here. You shouldn’t keep secrets about kids from parents. That’s literally rule one.
 
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JAM See

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,998
Evo1883 said:
Freak , we are talking about kids as young as 4 you absolute tampon...
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A: Happy to be a (beautiful) Freak.
B: Kids as young as four are still human beings and should be listened to. I'm sure you'd agree. If you don't agree with listening to children, please expand.
C: I wish I was an actual tampon. I could use myself for five days a month and save a load of money.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #5,999
shmmeee said:
Can you tell me what the following words mean:

- sex
- gender
- trans
- gender identity

Because whatever you say will not be consistent with a bunch of other people with similar beliefs and isn’t believed by the vast majority of people. That’s what makes it fringe.

There’s also a very basic safeguarding element here. You shouldn’t keep secrets about kids from parents. That’s literally rule one.
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Not only that , the SNP are putting teachers welfare in danger as I can't imagine too many parents would take it so well
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #6,000
Evo1883 said:
Not only that , the SNP are putting teachers welfare in danger as I can't imagine too many parents would take it so well
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The SNP are doing with a lot of this stuff what Blair tried to do with immigration and it never ends well. People don’t like government enacting change without a democratic mandate. Pretending this is a closed debate is disingenuous.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #6,001
JAM See said:
A: Happy to be a (beautiful) Freak.
B: Kids as young as four are still human beings and should be listened to. I'm sure you'd agree. If you don't agree with listening to children, please expand.
C: I wish I was an actual tampon. I could use myself for five days a month and save a load of money.
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Mate my daughter wanted to be Spider-Man when she was 4. And a mechanic.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #6,002
Evo1883 said:
Fuck personal , keep these weird fuxkers away from young kids
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Are the 4 year old kids the “weird fuckers” in this scenario. Just trying to understand your point.
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #6,003
skybluetony176 said:
Are the 4 year old kids the “weird fuckers” in this scenario. Just trying to understand your point.
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Absolutely not
 

COV

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #6,004
Evo1883 said:
Fuck personal , keep these weird fuxkers away from young kids
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that’s way over the top tbh
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #6,005
dubed said:
More like you can't articulate your fears because you don't quite know what you are fearful of, nor have had the experience of your living your life in very real, true fear, more than a black man, more than a women, more than a muslin.
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Are you genuinely claiming trans people in this country have more to fear than a black person, a woman, or a Muslim? Or have I misread that?
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #6,006
COV said:
that’s way over the top tbh
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No it's not , they are weird fuxkers trying to do shit like this to kids at such a young age
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #6,007
dubed said:
I believe they all have very clear definitions, and it is only those who are ignorant, wish to confuse or do not wish to engage in rational discussion who would say opposite.

I think you raise a valid point of discussion regards your latter point. I'd have to think on that. I think my first reaction is that teachers do indeed have a safeguarding issue, and that sharing a child's admission with a parent could have very serious consequences.
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Thats not a teachers call to make as any teacher will tell you. Literally rule 1 of every safeguarding session I’ve attended: don’t promise you can keep secrets.

If the words have a simple definition, give it.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #6,008
Leave our kids alone
 

COV

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #6,009
Evo1883 said:
Leave our kids alone
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May I ask- who are you talking about- the teachers?
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #6,010
COV said:
May I ask- who are you talking about- the teachers?
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The government , its the SNP that are doing this not the teachers ..I don't know how they feel about it I'd imagine not entirely comfortable
 

skybluetony176

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #6,011
Evo1883 said:
Leave our kids alone
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Isn’t that sort of the point that the Scottish government is making? Leave kids alone to identify how they feel is right for them.
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #6,012
skybluetony176 said:
Isn’t that sort of the point that the Scottish government is making? Leave kids alone to identify how they feel is right for them.
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I can't sorry... shouldn't have raised it on here should have known better , educated yes ...absolutely miles away from reality...yes

Educated people are making these decisions too .

Maybe the system Is just broken
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #6,013
skybluetony176 said:
Isn’t that sort of the point that the Scottish government is making? Leave kids alone to identify how they feel is right for them.
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We simply don’t know enough about this topic to make that decision. We don’t know why there’s a sudden rise in teenage transition in girls, we don’t know what evidence exists gender identity is a real thing it what causes dysphoria and how permanent it is. This sort of thing can be a signifier of abuse, it can be a fleeting thought, it can be a misunderstanding and playing into it can have consequences we don’t understand.

Would you be OK with the school supporting anorexia if the child feels they are fat? After all kid knows best. What about suicide if they feel there’s no point? Kid knows best.

It’s obviously not that simple and while it sounds nice to say, it’s not a sensible position. Kids aren’t adults and we don’t treat them as such for a reason.

Moreover you’re talking about an ideology the majority don’t believe in and for which there is scant evidence. It’s simply not the states place to teach that sort of stuff. This is closer to religion than science right now. There’s no democratic or scientific mandate for putting it in the curriculum.
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #6,014
Do you know that in my daughters year , she anticipates that around 30% of girls (not boys ) are bisexual ? 10/11 year olds

Besides being statistically abnormal , it also goes to show that kids follow trends , and are not entirely capable of making decisions based on their future or reality .

Dangerous games they want to play when it brings gender and transitioning into play , it's an even bigger wormhole
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #6,015
Evo1883 said:
Do you know that in my daughters year , she anticipates that around 30% of girls (not boys ) are bisexual ?

Besides being statistically abnormal , it also goes to show that kids follow trends , and are not entirely capable of making decisions based on their future or reality .

Dangerous games they want to play when it brings gender and transitioning into play
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Bisexuality has been rising for a while. Most people are probably a little bit bi. Sexuality has nothing to do with this stuff TBH.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #6,016
Evo1883 said:
I can't sorry... shouldn't have raised it on here should have known better , educated yes ...absolutely miles away from reality...yes

Educated people are making these decisions too .

Maybe the system Is just broken
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Who’s reality? Like Dubed said “You cannot make anybody non-binary or transgender, any more than you can make anybody gay”. If your reality is you’re non binary, transgender, gay or whatever then this is their reality. Isn’t it better that these children have a safe environment to express themselves without fear?
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #6,017
I note dubed has stepped out of this convo and I’m genuinely sorry to see that, their voice would be valuable but like hill in the racism thread I totally get that they’ve better things to do than have this debate. I think I’ll take that as a hint to leave the topic alone, but that debate needs to be had and resolved before governments mandate the result not after.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #6,018
skybluetony176 said:
Who’s reality? Like Dubed said “You cannot make anybody non-binary or transgender, any more than you can make anybody gay”. If your reality is you’re non binary, transgender, gay or whatever then this is their reality. Isn’t it better that these children have a safe environment to express themselves without fear?
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Why do you think the number of girls transitioning has skyrocketed in recent years?
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #6,019
skybluetony176 said:
Who’s reality? Like Dubed said “You cannot make anybody non-binary or transgender, any more than you can make anybody gay”. If your reality is you’re non binary, transgender, gay or whatever then this is their reality. Isn’t it better that these children have a safe environment to express themselves without fear?
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If that's the case then why do so many people who transition wish they never and want to revert back ?

If they become what they are , then why do they want to change it after surgery?
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #6,020
dubed said:
How exactly were you proposing to provide a counter-argument to my experience?
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I was just asking for clarification. Though I might point to the stats on attacks on various groups I’d rather not play oppression olympics at all TBH.

To be clear, I’d genuinely like to hear your thoughts on this. I’ve asked several good faith questions with that aim. I get evo is being a bit of a prick, and it’s not the best forum for that though.

But equally, your experience isn’t the only one that’s valid. Other people exist with their own life experiences and their own stakes in this debate.
 
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