Of course it’s not. What a ridiculous comment. That doesn’t explain why we’ve got to focus on that and not the massive majority not doing that.
I would if I thought that dont worryGo on. Call me a nobhead it’ll make you feel better
We've just had 3 days of news about racist tweets made by a billionth of the population .
You lot on here are always grifting ffs
I think that’s overblown too! Mostly foreign accounts and kids.
But I’m neither taking the knee nor slating those who are for political gain then supporting them also for political gain. Patel and Grimes both are. So I’ll call out their hypocrisy and naked politicking.
It's all hypocrisy
To be clear. No one should be racist or homophobic or misogynistic or whatever online.
But equally, they shouldn’t be the focus.
I’d rather focus on the massive support our country has shown for the lads especially when contrasted with how we behaved when England missed pens previously. What an amazing example of societal progress.
If Johnson and Patel and the rest of the culture warriors just went “yeah that was stupid well done England sorry for not backing you” it would all go away, but instead they’ve got to double down.
The anti take the knee people backed the wrong horse and need to take it on the chin.
I would think that goes without saying doesn’t it.THATS.NOT.THE.POINT
Say it Tony , it's never acceptable to threaten somebody's life or spew homophobic bile towards them when you disagree with their opinion
I wouldn't to you , I wouldn't to shmmeee , I disagree with you both often
I would think that goes without saying doesn’t it.
I don’t promote or condone the hate of any minority regardless of religion, sexuality, race , country of birth. Unlike Grimes.
Grimes isn’t the good guy here, he promotes hatred. Marcus Rashford on the other hand doesn’t. They’re both victims but unless Marcus Rashford starts treating Grimes with the same disdain that Grimes treats him Marcus Rashford is the biggest victim by a country mile. Maybe you could acknowledge that in your defence of Grimes.
Which goes straight back to my original and only point. Grimes does himself no favours when he is 100% guilty of doing what he’s now complaining of being a victim off.I already know Marcus is a victim of such things , my point isn't to defend Grimes , I don't like him either .
But we can't condone 1 and not the other..
We can't be annoyed by one and not the other .
That's all really
I know its hard to stick up for a tory mate, but you almost got there
Which goes straight back to my original and only point. Grimes does himself no favours when he is 100% guilty of doing what he’s now complaining of being a victim off.
What you'd rather and what happened are two totally different things
England is a racist shithole
I applaud your more realistic view here but its not what happened
England is not a racist shithole, but there is a problem though, I think the Prime Minister said it himself.
And Darren grimes is a much bigger part of the problem than Marcus Rashford. That doesn’t mean that people should go around abusing Darren Grimes but with social media as it is, a LOT more people are going to have sympathy with Marcus Rashford than Darren Grimes, that is the reality.
I don't care who people sympathise with ..for the record I too sympathise with rashord much more .
This isn't the point being made
The point is you don't fight fire with fire .
And social media is a free for all basically
I'm moaning about the state of social media first and foremost .. it's a shit stain on societyOk I’ll shut up as I have lost the thread of it all then
I'm not sure he's been homophobic or made death threats tony
Apart from this forum of course, which is a piss stain at worst.I'm moaning about the state of social media first and foremost .. it's a shit stain on society
He's a racist. Maybe doesn't warrant homophobia or death threats, but it does warrant his wanking under his desk being made public.
I'm moaning about the state of social media first and foremost .. it's a shit stain on society
He promotes hate. He’s a victim of hate. Marcus Rashford promotes the exact opposite of hate and is a victim of hate. Only one of them “does themselves no favours”. It’s really not that complicated.I'm not sure he's been homophobic or made death threats tony
He promotes hate. He’s a victim of hate. Marcus Rashford promotes the exact opposite of hate and is a victim of hate. Only one of them “does themselves no favours”. It’s really not that complicated.
I never said he brings it on himself. You’re adding your own context. I said he doesn’t do himself any favours.I don't think it's complicated at all .
One has a different opinion to you and me ..
I think the abuse aimed at him is wrong , you think he brings it on himself .
That's exactly what's happening here
I never said he brings it on himself. You’re adding your own context. I said he doesn’t do himself any favours.
OK I genuinely don't know and haven't seen his racist comments , can you show me
I'm moaning about the state of social media first and foremost .. it's a shit stain on society
I don't think it's complicated at all .
One has a different opinion to you and me ..
I think the abuse aimed at him is wrong , you think he brings it on himself .
That's exactly what's happening here
It is. It’s also one of humanities greatest inventions.
I have an overarching theory which is that we have a limited number of people we are built to be in contact with (around 150) and after that we have to create generalisations to interact with people.
Genie is out the bottle now. All we can do is learn how to live with it and IMO part of that is not blowing small percentages out of proportion.
Which abuse? The abuse he's getting today is hilarious.
If you're talking about homophobia I agree.
Similar arguments to these have existed for years relating to the most popular medium of the day.
No mate , I'm down with a bit of Richard keysI'm serious, what l've seen today has been pisstaking. Are you saying that should stop?
I think social media has changed society in a much shorter time than we imagined it would
No mate , I'm down with a bit of Richard keys
Banter basicallyI don't know what that means. Is it something to do with hairy hands?
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