Grendel
Well-Known Member
She agreed with the council in Hove to pay council tax as a second property
Or, quite simply, the truth in a practical sense. She didn’t own another property. Her child’s trust did. Policitian not being across the minutiae of tax policy isn’t a fun story tho.
Again Zahawi avoided paying tax on tens of millions over years by setting up off shore companies and threatening anyone who investigated until the HMRC caught up with him. Rayner took advice on a non-standard living situation paid what she was told and when told that was wrong paid some more. Only a simpleton or someone not arguing in good faith would pretend they’re the same.
You lot on the right always try this because you think secretly the left wants less taxes as well and are being hypocrites so you’ll twist anything to fit that narrative but any honest reading just doesn’t add up like that here. Rayner has not tried to avoid tax on anything like the scale the average Tory did. You just don’t like her.
She agreed with the council in Hove to pay council tax as a second property
Can pay council tax on 2 properties despite only owning one as far as I’m aware.
I should just set out that I’m not condoning it but I’m not of the belief, as MMM seems to be, that this is some mad aggressive tax planning. Just think it’s a bit of a fuck-up.
Can pay council tax on 2 properties despite only owning one as far as I’m aware.
I should just set out that I’m not condoning it but I’m not of the belief, as MMM seems to be, that this is some mad aggressive tax planning. Just think it’s a bit of a fuck-up.
Why would anyone put a house in a discretionary trust unless it was to benefit from a tax avoidance?
Do you understand literally anything about how this country works or is it all just a jumble of US politics tweets in there?
Or, quite simply, the truth in a practical sense. She didn’t own another property. Her child’s trust did. Policitian not being across the minutiae of tax policy isn’t a fun story tho.
She agreed with the council in Hove to pay council tax as a second property
Loads of reasons, particularly given their son is disabled.
Mostly about protecting him financially and giving him some security.
Well.Yeah, she probably has (had!) designs on being PM. I don't think she is stupid enough to risk it all over some stamp duty.
Or, quite simply, the truth in a practical sense. She didn’t own another property. Her child’s trust did. Policitian not being across the minutiae of tax policy isn’t a fun story tho.
She extracted £165k from it to buy the second home. Surely that home offers security?
She has 3 children
I think she misled her solicitors personally. That’s my ‘gut feeling’.I told my wife the other day what I thought had happened and it is looking increasingly likely that I was correct.
I reckon the Licensed Conveyancers will have completed the SDLT return and in doing so will have asked AR if she owned any other properties and she told them that she didn't. That could have been a deliberate attempt to evade tax, which is fraud, or a stupid error.
If you take her at face value, the Manchester home has been modified to cater for his disability. Hence the reason they have this nesting arrangement and the perceived need to ensure he has right to remain should anything happen to either/both of them.
Why the other property needs to be in Brighton I have no idea. But that’s a separate story.
“Right wing conspiracy”It’s the right wing press gunning for her!
‘It’s a disgrace’: Rayner’s constituents call for her resignation after stamp duty row
In Ashton-under-Lyne there is little sympathy for the deputy prime minister’s tax troubleswww.theguardian.com
She extracted £165k from it to buy the second home. Surely that home offers security?
She has 3 children
Why do you insist on examples all the time, they're all over the news.Examples please.
DelusionalAnd she is paying the right amount of tax. She got advice. Paid the amount she was told. Got told the advice was wrong. Got new advice. Paid the new amount.
At no point has she tried to avoid tax. Read the statement and tell me at what point exactly you think she intentionally avoided tax.
As I said anyone who has had kids through divorce knows the question of “what’s your primary address” isn’t simple and consistent especially with a nesting arrangement like she had.
Discretionary trusts are not tax efficient and are not used to save tax.
The whole point of them is security and protection for family.
Hove is firmly Labour.“Right wing conspiracy”
Judging by the voting habits of Hove, I doubt the graffiti artists of Rayner’s home are right wingers. They could be, but an equal chance they’re ‘eco-populist’ Green voters who disdain tax evaders.
I don't think any of Labour's "big" 3 can string a sentence together without a script.Starmer refuses to say if he will sack Rayner if she broke rules
The PM's standards adviser is investigating if Rayner breached the ministerial code after underpaying stamp duty.www.bbc.co.uk
and listening to this live was a living facepalm. All he had to say was 'I'll listen to what the ethics fella says and make a decision', he just waffled for five mins.
“Right wing conspiracy”
Judging by the voting habits of Hove, I doubt the graffiti artists of Rayner’s home are right wingers. They could be, but an equal chance they’re ‘eco-populist’ Green voters who disdain tax evaders.
Cool. Now we’ve got everyone’s opinion on paying the wrong amount of stamp duty. A this is very clear fraud not a disabled kid in sight. I assume the righties will be demanding Farage resigns.
I'm pretty sure it was Conservative in 2010.
Yes Macca there are no right wingers in Hove. Fucks sake man do you even listen to the shit you come out with?
Because otherwise people will just make stuff up.Why do you insist on examples all the time, they're all over the news.
I'm pretty sure it was Conservative in 2010.
Oh this is just wonderful.
Come on then lads, let's see your outrage.
Wonder if this will be front page news on the Telegraph/Mail for the next week?
They don’t care about the principle. They spent 14 years voting for the biggest tax dodgers around. They just hate seeing a working class woman do well. Private school boys only pls.
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