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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,426
shmmeee said:
This is what bothered me most about Corbyns time. The quality of MPs we got because they were selected for loyalty and not quality. And it’s basically a job for life.
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I'd like more people like Neil Coyle
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,427
fernandopartridge said:
I'd like more people like Neil Coyle
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Honestly they’re all shite. I’ve whined before about the quality of MPs the selection process produces.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,428
fernandopartridge said:
I'd like more people like Neil Coyle
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Neil Coyle is the Sunderland of Labour MP’s - thinks he has a divine right to be considered a ‘top-tier’ MP when in reality he’s a small-time prick living in the past.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,429
Ian1779 said:
Neil Coyle is the Sunderland of Labour MP’s - thinks he has a divine right to be considered a ‘top-tier’ MP when in reality he’s a small-time prick living in the past.
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Genuinely don’t even know who he is.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,430
shmmeee said:
Genuinely don’t even know who he is.
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I Googled. His wikipedia entry is entertaining!
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,431
Deleted member 5849 said:
I Googled. His wikipedia entry is entertaining!
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Just read the “controversial statements” section, I’m warming to the guy.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,432
This is an interesting story.

Study in Iceland Shows 4-Day Workweek Trial is 'Overwhelming Success'

"The Icelandic shorter working week journey tells us that not only is it possible to work less in modern times, but that progressive change is possible too," said Alda researcher Gudmundur D. Haraldsson.
www.insideedition.com
Wonder how predictable who will think its a good idea and who will think its outrageous will be
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,433
chiefdave said:
This is an interesting story.

Study in Iceland Shows 4-Day Workweek Trial is 'Overwhelming Success'

"The Icelandic shorter working week journey tells us that not only is it possible to work less in modern times, but that progressive change is possible too," said Alda researcher Gudmundur D. Haraldsson.
www.insideedition.com
Wonder how predictable who will think its a good idea and who will think its outrageous will be
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I’d never have the option due to the nature of my work but I wouldn’t begrudge others the possibility. My wife in her work could definitely do a 4 day week.
 

COV

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,434
chiefdave said:
This is an interesting story.

Study in Iceland Shows 4-Day Workweek Trial is 'Overwhelming Success'

"The Icelandic shorter working week journey tells us that not only is it possible to work less in modern times, but that progressive change is possible too," said Alda researcher Gudmundur D. Haraldsson.
www.insideedition.com
Wonder how predictable who will think its a good idea and who will think its outrageous will be
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I'm in the "good idea" camp for sure

Been proven to work, good for people. Lots of places starting to roll it out, or at least a version of it via flexitime.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,435
This is what I mean about The Express

If their readership really buys articles like this and think that will show the EU, Brexit wins again then they’re dribbling idiots.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,436
Some more brexit stories

London reclaims position as Europe’s top trading hub

The shift back to the City was helped by the return of Swiss share trading in London
www.telegraph.co.uk

How Nissan learned to stop worrying and love Brexit

After years backing the EU and the euro, Nissan now describes Britain's exit as an 'opportunity' and is building a £1bn battery factory here
www.telegraph.co.uk

The EU plot to destroy the City has been a catastrophic failure

Brussels believed it could regulate its way to victory, but its all stick and no carrot strategy was never going to work
www.telegraph.co.uk
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,437
Where do people go for balanced Brexit news? Everywhere has a very clear bias, even the big US and European news outlets have a culture war or EU dog in the fight. U.K. outlets all seem to take a side and stick with it.
 
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Northants Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,438
dubed said:
Some more brexit stories

London reclaims position as Europe’s top trading hub

The shift back to the City was helped by the return of Swiss share trading in London
www.telegraph.co.uk

How Nissan learned to stop worrying and love Brexit

After years backing the EU and the euro, Nissan now describes Britain's exit as an 'opportunity' and is building a £1bn battery factory here
www.telegraph.co.uk

The EU plot to destroy the City has been a catastrophic failure

Brussels believed it could regulate its way to victory, but its all stick and no carrot strategy was never going to work
www.telegraph.co.uk
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As Schmmeee indicates, its unlikely these 3 articles from a Boris Johnson fanzine are providing a neutral viewpoint
 

stupot07

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,439
I think the answer to the question is a resounding no...


Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,440
Northants Sky Blue said:
As Schmmeee indicates, its unlikely these 3 articles from a Boris Johnson fanzine are providing a neutral viewpoint
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Only did the first one, London is back ahead by <€1bn after being ahead in Dec by >€12bn.

Wasn’t my point though, as the articles in the Guardian are as bad the other way.
 
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Northants Sky Blue

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,441
shmmeee said:
Only did the first one, London is back ahead by <€1bn after being ahead in Dec by >€12bn.

Wasn’t my point though, as the articles in the Guardian are as bad the other way.
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No your point was that articles on either side are usually biased which I agree the Telegraph and Guardian routinely prove.

The difference being 90% of print media leans heavily to the right
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,442
Northants Sky Blue said:
As Schmmeee indicates, its unlikely these 3 articles from a Boris Johnson fanzine are providing a neutral viewpoint
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The first story doesn’t make up for the lost revenue for the city. No Brexit win.

The Nissan story seems to be regurgitated every month, it’s only actually happened once, Nissan actually already had a battery factory next door to the car plant while we were in the EU and given that the electric car market is a growing market and the future you’d be hard pushed to say this investment wouldn’t have happened anyway.

Haven’t read the third story but I dare say that the “EU” plot was just actually what was always going to happen when we left as per the rules we helped write decades ago. So no plot, just what it is.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,443
Northants Sky Blue said:
No your point was that articles on either side are usually biased which I agree the Telegraph and Guardian routinely prove.
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Both are probably as bad as the other, which was really the point of my post - that the relentless, daily posting of the guardian and twitter feeds here have an opposite number that we can all choose to dance around, not that I can be bothered quite frankly.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,444
dubed said:
Both are probably as bad as the other, which was really the point of my post - that the relentless, daily posting of the guardian and twitter feeds here have an opposite number that we can all choose to dance around, not that I can be bothered quite frankly.
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No I agree, and could have answered the same to those posts, but yaknow biases.

Genuine question though. It's a topic I find really hard to source decent news. Those that care enough to report have an angle and those that don't have an angle don't care. So it's just the stream of bullshit from both sides. Which I guess means there's nothing to report of note. Probably best to reconvene in five years and look at the data.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #5,445
Another meme that reminded me of this thread.

 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 8, 2021
  • #5,446

Red Nev sticking the boot in to Boris Johnson.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jul 8, 2021
  • #5,447
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 8, 2021
  • #5,448
Evo1883 said:
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Christ, when you put it that way it's a joke isn't it?
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #5,449

I presume he's looking for tips and not giving the talk?
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #5,450
Skybluefaz said:
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #5,451

She seems like one of the good ones.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #5,452
Skybluefaz said:

She seems like one of the good ones.
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She was interesting on the last leg
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #5,453
chiefdave said:
This is an interesting story.

Study in Iceland Shows 4-Day Workweek Trial is 'Overwhelming Success'

"The Icelandic shorter working week journey tells us that not only is it possible to work less in modern times, but that progressive change is possible too," said Alda researcher Gudmundur D. Haraldsson.
www.insideedition.com
Wonder how predictable who will think its a good idea and who will think its outrageous will be
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I work a 4 day week ..it's fantastic and definitely the way forward
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #5,454
Sky Blue Pete said:
She was interesting on the last leg
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And have I got news.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #5,455
I think being in the Lords gives you more freedom to not tow the line. Most of the moderates have been removed after the necessity to pledge allegiance to Boris and his Brexit deal at the last election.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #5,456
Tyrone Mings massacring Priti Patel on Twitter.
 
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COV

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  • Jul 12, 2021
  • #5,457
shmmeee said:
Tyrone Mings massacring Priti Patel on Twitter.
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I saw that too, and he is dead right.

People starting to see what the knee is about now when we do it- nothing to do with politics, all about standing up to the kind of shit some people get up to
 
Last edited: Jul 12, 2021
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 13, 2021
  • #5,458
shmmeee said:
Tyrone Mings massacring Priti Patel on Twitter.
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Good. She’s done more to promote the acceptance of racism than any politician since Enoch Powel. She’s earned being called out.
 
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Northants Sky Blue

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  • Jul 13, 2021
  • #5,459

What is gesture politics and what isn't: Priti Patel explains

I’VE been in politics long enough to know what’s important and what’s a mere gesture by deluded millionaire Marxists who should stick to football. Let me explain.
www.thedailymash.co.uk
 

COV

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  • Jul 13, 2021
  • #5,460
Southgate said that we were taking the knee to show solidarity against racism. People got all wound up saying it was wrong, people should be allowed to boo, and it had a different agenda. Racism shows it’s ugly head after the football and all of a sudden the same people are saying what a disgrace racism is, or have just gone strangely quiet. Now everyone sees what the knee is against and I hope it stays from now on.
 
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