Philosoraptor
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Did I say that or support any of the candidates?
Seriously? Literally yesterday you were saying if Labour didn’t win it it was proof Starmer should go. And I was explaining the long term trends to you.
Sorry your man lost though. Better luck next time.
It was a good victory… but your last sentence makes you sound a bit of a knob, so I’ll assume it was just poor satire.Great stuff. A decent MP wins, and this will annoy all the right people.
Jeremy Corbyn, Chris Williamson, Owen Jones, Vladimir Putin, Saddam Hussein, your boy took one hell of a beating.
It was a good victory… but your last sentence makes you sound a bit of a knob, so I’ll assume it was just poor satire.
I’m a Labour member too, but you’re being a knob putting Corbyn in that group. You’ve made it clear your thoughts on him, and he’s no longer leader, you’ve got a new leader you can tie yourself in knots defending.I’m a Labour member and the way that lot have been acting (throw in Bastani as well) has been fucking disgraceful. Jones cuddling up to a homophobe just because he didn’t like Starmer was sickening. They can all get in the bin, none of them are Labour. And yes Putin and Hussein are both connected to Galloway. The guy is a racist, homophobic c**t who supports genocidal maniacs and covers for authoritarian regimes and the lefts love affair with him because he might annoy Starmer is frankly disgusting.
They can all get in the bin.
What does that mean ‘city centre first?’It is called growing a backbone and not implementing Tory cuts to local services which should have happened.
Amazing how money can now be found to protect businesses that didn't bother to get the correct insurance to get through a pandemic.
A hat stand with a red rosette would have been more effective in defending cuts to local services than a lot of Labour councillors
City Centre first though eh?
I don't know about you but I am noticing a trend here.
Yep, and I think Hancock just saved the seat for Labour.
And I’m not sure it is called having a backbone. Do you have any examples?It is called growing a backbone and not implementing Tory cuts to local services which should have happened.
Amazing how money can now be found to protect businesses that didn't bother to get the correct insurance to get through a pandemic.
A hat stand with a red rosette would have been more effective in defending cuts to local services than a lot of Labour councillors
City Centre first though eh?
What does that mean ‘city centre first?’
You can’t compare majority between GE and by-election because of the numbers of people voting. Labour’s victory was unexpected, and would suggest the new MP did an awful lot of work on the ground which is a credit to her.After a couple of weeks banging on Labour had absolutely no chance, Starmer needs to go, etc. Instead of congratulating labour on a narrow but completely un expected win given the context, Nicky Campbell questioning this morning on 5 Live was all around how poor the margin was and labour didn't do very well.
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Galloway always picks up some votes wherever he runs, though. With more organisation, he could have been the left's Farage.You can’t compare majority between GE and by-election because of the numbers of people voting. Labour’s victory was unexpected, and would suggest the new MP did an awful lot of work on the ground which is a credit to her.
8000 people voted for Galloway - they can’t all be racists and homophobes. Labour need to find out why some of their felt they had to take their vote elsewhere.
It is called growing a backbone and not implementing Tory cuts to local services which should have happened.
Amazing how money can now be found to protect businesses that didn't bother to get the correct insurance to get through a pandemic.
A hat stand with a red rosette would have been more effective in defending cuts to local services than a lot of Labour councillors
City Centre first though eh?
I’m a Labour member too, but you’re being a knob putting Corbyn in that group. You’ve made it clear your thoughts on him, and he’s no longer leader, you’ve got a new leader you can tie yourself in knots defending.
The rest can get in the bin though totally agree.
The Tories have cut central government funding going to local governments by 40% over 11 years.
How are local authorities supposed to grow a backbone and not implement cuts when they have physically been given 40% funding?
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Jocky Wilson?I'll have to find the pdf. You will be amazed who one of the authors of the report is
8000 people voted for Galloway - they can’t all be racists and homophobes. Labour need to find out why some of their felt they had to take their vote elsewhere.
The brass neck of the right of the labour party talking about not getting behind the leaderSorry but Corbyn is in that group. He’s mates with all of that lot. His wife was writing about how Starmer had to go if he lost. Since he got kicked out the PLP for racism he’s shown his colours quite frankly.
You know I voted for him and backed him for most of his time as leader, but since then the guy has shown he’s not a Labour supporter just like Williamson, just like Jones. And if they aren’t with us they’re against us and IMO just useful idiots for the Tories.
But feel free to point out where Corbyn has disowned Galloway and supported Labour during this by election.
I’ll help you out, here’s his Twitter feed:
Where he manages to post about every cause on Earth but can’t bring himself to comment on the racism, misogyny and homophobia being perpetrated by Galloway. Because he wanted him to win to prove a point. That’s the great morals of the guy.
The brass neck of the right of the labour party talking about not getting behind the leader
I suspect many were indeed racists and homophobes
Labour struggling for vital Muslim votes in UK by-election as George Galloway seeks to poach voters | The National
Five Muslim groups in Batley and Spen warn party their votes are ‘taken for granted’www.thenationalnews.com
Indeed - it’s funny that Galloway probably helped Labour get elected in the end - he seems to want to go to court for some reason - he’s gone the full Trump these days
Indeed - it’s funny that Galloway probably helped Labour get elected in the end - he seems to want to go to court for some reason - he’s gone the full Trump these days
He didn’t get kicked out of the PLP for racism - you’re talking shit there.Sorry but Corbyn is in that group. He’s mates with all of that lot. His wife was writing about how Starmer had to go if he lost. Since he got kicked out the PLP for racism he’s shown his colours quite frankly.
You know I voted for him and backed him for most of his time as leader, but since then the guy has shown he’s not a Labour supporter just like Williamson, just like Jones. And if they aren’t with us they’re against us and IMO just useful idiots for the Tories.
But feel free to point out where Corbyn has disowned Galloway and supported Labour during this by election.
I’ll help you out, here’s his Twitter feed:
Where he manages to post about every cause on Earth but can’t bring himself to comment on the racism, misogyny and homophobia being perpetrated by Galloway. Because he wanted him to win to prove a point. That’s the great morals of the guy.
He probably galvanised support TBH. The Tories still should’ve won though. Where did the Kipper Independent votes go?
No but at by elections you have to have policies on everything and are held responsible for everything if you are Labour. If you're Tory you can hide away, put out a vague promise to "level up' and nobody will remember that your party has been in power for 11 years and will vote for you as you represent the change they angrily want.
He didn’t get kicked out of the PLP for racism - you’re talking shit there.
They literally had to lock Starmer up ‘fridge-style’ and he managed what a dozen or so tweets in support?
But you keep getting outraged about the former leader and how we should all unequivocally get behind the current leader regardless…
defintely.not.a.cult.
But you’re equating ‘the left’ with people like that and it’s not on. It seems your centrist dad ‘hot take’ is that the left are gutted that Labour held the seat…And I don’t think you’ve read anything I’ve written if you think I’m saying support Starmer unconditionally. I’m saying there’s nothing better so get behind the party and don’t support racists and homophobes who cover for despicable regimes.
But you’re equating ‘the left’ with people like that and it’s not on. It seems your centrist dad ‘hot take’ is that the left are gutted that Labour held the seat…
I want Labour to win as much as you, but the party have to be reflective at this point on Batley (and Hartlepool too) and think about the direction. It’s not the time to crow and think everything is all dandy.
LAB +10
LAB +10
Correct.I think you misunderstand where this is going.
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