chiefdave
Well-Known Member
People singing the Doug King song
People singing the Doug King songDepends what they are policing.
People singing the Doug King song
If you can point to anything credible that supports what you're saying, there's a debate to be had. What specific actions would be enough?
Didn't see them, which is a problem you're gonna have if you insult people that are trying to talk to you. You also haven't answered mine either and being petty, I asked first. I'll give it a shot, though...
Yes, it's clear that in some places people from certain backgrounds were doing horrible f*cking things to kids. I won't assume they were practicing Muslims because I don't know.
You keep saying there should be a proper enquiry. We've had several, national and local. You keep saying stuff should be done. People who worked on the enquiries are annoyed more hasn't been done.
One likely reason why more hasn't been done, at least from stuff I've read, is that politicians are letting themselves be led by noise about more inquiries from people who probably know nothing about it.
Depends what they are policing.
Why aren't the recommendations from such things as The Jay Report being implemented?
According to Jay themselves, part of the reason why is because people keep crowing for more inquiries. I think you'd do yourself a favour if you didn't lean so heavily on the Telegraph for your news btw. Billionaire tax exiles aren't gonna tend to have your interests at heart when giving editorial direction.
Victims want action, child abuse inquiry chair Alexis Jay says
"People need to step up to the mark" to tackle child abuse grooming gangs, Prof Alexis Jay tells BBC.www.bbc.co.uk
I don't really need to say anything else on this thread. If you cannot acknowledge that there is a problem, and that not enough is being done about it, then it doesn't matter what sources I post and how much evidence there is. You simply don't want to hear it, which unfortunately does make you an apologist for these kind of grooming gangs.
You can get in the f*cking sea with that last comment, you patronising piece of sh*t. Your argument so far amounts to 'if you don't see things the way I do then you're an apologist for sex offenders'. D*ckhead.
And there the mask slips...
You think discussing something involves branding people as apologists for sex offenders and paedophiles if they ask questions or point out inconsistencies with your argument. You're a joke.
“No one will debate properly with me” whilst consistently calling people apologists for child grooming is pathetic.
in several pages now, not one of you has added anything credible to this whatsoever.
“No one will debate properly with me” whilst consistently calling people apologists for child grooming is pathetic.
If you think you can have credibility when you weaponise this subject to insult people it proves you couldn't argue your way out a paper bag. I've not heard you talk about the victims once which says everything.
Jay's response to the calls for a new inquiry talked first and foremost about how victims want previous recommendations put in place, not more politicising of the crimes that took place or more inquiries.
You went from talking about the subject to telling me I endorse sex offenders in the space of one post where I questioned the motives of the Telegraph. You couldn't have summed yourself up any better if you tried.
This. It's fucking pitiful.
Yet he's quite happy to leap to the defence of a serial sex offender.
Another fantastic contribution to this debate.
I can argue my way out of a paper bag...
As others have said, you're impossible to debate with.
It's either your way, or you love grooming gangs. No in between.
Insults don't constitute an argument.
I think some people are so wired into not wanting to seem racist that it is impossible for them to acknowledge that there is a problem.
not a single person wants to talk about or acknowledge the overrepresentation of the crime statistics...
or some people are so poor at hiding their racism that it's impossible for them to discuss a subject without being sh*theads to anyone who doesn't see things the way they do.
Weird that people don't want to talk to you calmly after you brand them an apologist for sex crimes against children. I'm done. Total waste of time and I'm annoyed at myself for bothering.
Yeah, that was pretty predictable...
In all the global madness and creaking financial system, some better news…
UK economy rebounds with 0.5% growth in February
UK economy rebounds with 0.5% growth in February
GDP expands faster than expected from a contraction of 0.1% in Januarywww.thetimes.com
Ps just hoping this is based on accurate figures from ONS. Either way it’s positive news which won’t do us any harm. Shame bond markets are such a mess otherwise I reckon government borrowing costs would be improving a bit more on the back of this. Let’s hope sanity prevails in coming days
Inquiries shall be repeated until they produce just an A4 sheet of paper with “immigrants bad” on it.
Also it’s a question of growth compared to what. Comparisons to last year matter less to me than comparisons to 2010 and before.All just noise around 0% isn’t it? Up 0.5 we are all happy down 0.5 and we have to sacrifice a few disabled people to the market gods. All seems so arbitrary.
Seems to me you’ve decided that most Muslim men are nonces and unless people agree with that then they’re apologists or avoiding the issue.Yeah, that was pretty predictable. Call someone a racist when they've called you out, and then close the door.
There is one thing I agree with you though. This is a waste of time, and it is a lovely day. Have a good one.
All just noise around 0% isn’t it? Up 0.5 we are all happy down 0.5 and we have to sacrifice a few disabled people to the market gods. All seems so arbitrary.
There’s the nub which is why a confident government makes sure the recommendations are enacted and gets on with governing.Seems to me you’ve decided that most Muslim men are nonces and unless people agree with that then they’re apologists or avoiding the issue.
They aren’t. Nobody wants child groomers free to continue their crimes.
Also it’s a question of growth compared to what. Comparisons to last year matter less to me than comparisons to 2010 and before.
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