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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (22 Viewers)

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shmmeee

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  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #49,946
rob9872 said:
Why does everything have to be so deep and people taking pleasure in looking at things in a way that they can be offended?

The subject of knife crime is thought provoking enough without looking for hidden meanings. Life is a lot simpler if like me, your thought process at the end was 'that was good, i enjoyed it'. What shall we watch next? I have a wife and a daughter so I'm well aware of life's imbalance that in many ways should be addressed, but ffs if you watch something for entertainment purposes then allow it to entertain you!
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It left me a bit cold until my daughter said it rang true for her how the boys were. Though she’s had some bad experiences with incel type boys. It just wasn’t really clear on anything for me, it blurred the lines between bullying knife crime misogyny and ended up not really saying anything about any of them.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #49,947
To be honest I think a drama about a white kid from a middle class family killing another one is easy for the media and MPs to wank over. It's nice and safe for them.
 
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SBT

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  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #49,948
Nick said:
Getting a bit bored of hearing about Adolescence hype now.

Yes, the misogyny is an issue as is social media but every day it's the media trying to ram it down throats.
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It’s not much different to the Mr Bates vs the Post Office stuff really
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #49,949
SBT said:
It’s not much different to the Mr Bates vs the Post Office stuff really
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For all Badenoch is a complete mush brained social media addict, I do agree with her that fiction isn’t a suitable thing to base policy on. It is starting to feel like if I want, say, urban mass transit I’ve got to commission an ITV drama set on trams.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #49,950
SBT said:
It’s not much different to the Mr Bates vs the Post Office stuff really
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The true story one?

Maybe they can whack Top Boy on in schools while they are at it to warn against kids being groomed for selling drugs.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #49,951
Looks like they've thought this one through.

Terrorism suspect linked to 7/7 bombings set to be released from prison

Haroon Aswat, jailed for 20 years for plotting to form extremist training camp, may be freed despite remaining ‘risk to national security’
www.telegraph.co.uk
 

mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2025
  • #49,952
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Looks like they've thought this one through.

Terrorism suspect linked to 7/7 bombings set to be released from prison

Haroon Aswat, jailed for 20 years for plotting to form extremist training camp, may be freed despite remaining ‘risk to national security’
www.telegraph.co.uk
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Reading the article, the law would have to be changed for him to be risk assessed and potentially kept in custody. Him being detained in a mental hospital 'precluded' that assessment being done (Judge's words). Doesn't sound like a case of someone deciding 'Yeah, he's harmless'. It's a legal loophole that probably should be closed.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 4, 2025
  • #49,953
SBT said:
It’s not much different to the Mr Bates vs the Post Office stuff really
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It is really as one was based on fact whereas the other was entirely fictional
 
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SBT

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  • Apr 4, 2025
  • #49,954
fernandopartridge said:
It is really as one was based on fact whereas the other was entirely fictional
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They are obviously different (as I said) but they’re both ultimately dramatisations inspired by real-life events.

There’s no reason why well researched and/or thoughtful fiction can’t inspire policy and there’s a long history of it doing so.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 4, 2025
  • #49,955
SBT said:
They are obviously different (as I said) but they’re both ultimately dramatisations inspired by real-life events.

There’s no reason why well researched and/or thoughtful fiction can’t inspire policy and there’s a long history of it doing so.
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They are totally different.

I though the Netflix programme was really not that great tbh
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 4, 2025
  • #49,956
Grendel said:
I though the Netflix programme was really not that great tbh
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The way people are banging on it's Oscar worthy.

People have gone all in cocks in hand.
 
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SBT

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  • Apr 4, 2025
  • #49,957
Nick said:
The way people are banging on it's Oscar worthy.

People have gone all in cocks in hand.
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I mean, it’s pretty obviously going to win a ton of awards. From an acting and a technical perspective it was mental. Episodes 1 and 3 were particularly good imo.
 
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Nick

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  • Apr 4, 2025
  • #49,958
SBT said:
I mean, it’s pretty obviously going to win a ton of awards. From an acting and a technical perspective it was mental. Episodes 1 and 3 were particularly good imo.
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It helps if you are told 27 times a day by MPs and the media how amazing and hard hitting it is. Then 56 videos showing drones filming on sponsored posts will do it as well. It was hype over drive.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 4, 2025
  • #49,959
SBT said:
I mean, it’s pretty obviously going to win a ton of awards. From an acting and a technical perspective it was mental. Episodes 1 and 3 were particularly good imo.
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The technical aspect was its downfall really as you couldn’t get plot dimensions. Stephen Graham seems to specialise in these and it worked in the chef drama as that’s literally a day in a kitchen - this was over 18 months and we saw 4 hours

Yes the acting from the two young actors - who it seems have never done any on screen acting before - was excellent but the plot line and character depth was very thin
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Apr 4, 2025
  • #49,960
wingy said:
Marine la penn has been found guilty today and barred from running for the presidency for five year's and likely have to wear a tag like Sarkozye, apparently for using fund's for something different from what they were intended.
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Decision on her appeal deferred till next summer, menwhile Le Pen is free to campaign.

Le Pen could still become French president after appeal slated for 2026

The shock decision comes after the far-right icon’s embezzlement conviction appeared to stop her running in 2027.
www.politico.eu
 
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SBAndy

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  • Apr 4, 2025
  • #49,961
Grendel said:
Yes the acting from the two young actors - who it seems have never done any on screen acting before - was excellent but the plot line and character depth was very thin
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…deliberately. I thought it was very good, but I wouldn’t really describe it as tv, it was more like art.
 
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Nick

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  • Apr 4, 2025
  • #49,962
SBAndy said:
…deliberately. I thought it was very good, but I wouldn’t really describe it as tv, it was more like art.
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This is the hype im on about.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Apr 4, 2025
  • #49,963
Nick said:
This is the hype im on about.
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You lack culture. Not my issue.

What I’m getting at is, to be honest, I wasn’t entertained in the purest sense of the word. The focus of the programme was more to highlight the impact it had on everyone around the situation, rather than focus on the situation itself. The writer literally confirmed it.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 4, 2025
  • #49,964
Grendel said:
The technical aspect was its downfall really as you couldn’t get plot dimensions. Stephen Graham seems to specialise in these and it worked in the chef drama as that’s literally a day in a kitchen - this was over 18 months and we saw 4 hours

Yes the acting from the two young actors - who it seems have never done any on screen acting before - was excellent but the plot line and character depth was very thin
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Some of the parts of the story were inexplicable, why were they scousers who'd decided to go any live in Doncaster?

The incel element to it was that the perp had been told he was an incel, not that he really believed in it? It didn't refer to any evidence of him being radicalised, more that being an incel was imposed on him. It
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,965
fernandopartridge said:
Some of the parts of the story were inexplicable, why were they scousers who'd decided to go any live in Doncaster?

The incel element to it was that the perp had been told he was an incel, not that he really believed in it? It didn't refer to any evidence of him being radicalised, more that being an incel was imposed on him. It
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Did you miss episode three? He did believe it.
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,966
Nick said:
The way people are banging on it's Oscar worthy.

People have gone all in cocks in hand.
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I won't be watching. Sounds like misery.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,967
CovValleyBoy said:
I won't be watching. Sounds like misery.
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Misery was another classic too
 
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Nick

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,968
SBAndy said:
You lack culture. Not my issue.

What I’m getting at is, to be honest, I wasn’t entertained in the purest sense of the word. The focus of the programme was more to highlight the impact it had on everyone around the situation, rather than focus on the situation itself. The writer literally confirmed it.
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Like I said, it's the hype train.

It's a Netflix TV show FFS. The way people are being so deep is hilarious. That again comes back to all of the media, the hype, MPs banging on about it.

For somebody who will have just put it on. Watched it. Moved into the next thing on Netflix and didn't pay any attention to the huge media campaign behind it then it's just that.

The pr campaign that has gone along with it to build up hype is massive.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,969
Nick said:
Like I said, it's the hype train.

It's a Netflix TV show FFS. The way people are being so deep is hilarious. That again comes back to all of the media, the hype, MPs banging on about it.

For somebody who will have just put it on. Watched it. Moved into the next thing on Netflix and didn't pay any attention to the huge media campaign behind it then it's just that.

The pr campaign that has gone along with it you build up hype is massive.
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I've always been deeply suspicious of anything attached to a massive propaganda campaign, I ask myself who is paying for it and who ultimately benefits. The focus seems to be on restricting social media for minors, that is what the main writer Jack Thorne has said and Australia has already legislated in that area. The new age of censorship is upon us.

Australian social media ban on under-16s approved by parliament

The ban aims to reduce "harms" on children and will take at least a year to implement, the PM says.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,970
Captain Dart said:
I've always been deeply suspicious of anything attached to a massive propaganda campaign, I ask myself who is paying for it and who ultimately benefits. The focus seems to be on restricting social media for minors, that is what the main writer Jack Thorne has said and Australia has already legislated in that area. The new age of censorship is upon us.

Australian social media ban on under-16s approved by parliament

The ban aims to reduce "harms" on children and will take at least a year to implement, the PM says.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Getting children off social media and generally reducing their screen time while increasing their time spent interacting with real people in the real world would be a tremendous thing.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,971
Nick said:
Like I said, it's the hype train.

It's a Netflix TV show FFS. The way people are being so deep is hilarious. That again comes back to all of the media, the hype, MPs banging on about it.

For somebody who will have just put it on. Watched it. Moved into the next thing on Netflix and didn't pay any attention to the huge media campaign behind it then it's just that.

The pr campaign that has gone along with it to build up hype is massive.
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I’m sure you self-radicalise about these things. I’ll accept there was a ‘hype’ for about a week but it seems to have mainly died off. I’ve not really seen or heard anything about it on tv or various (sporadic) news outlets for a while.
 
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SBT

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,972
Captain Dart said:
I've always been deeply suspicious of anything attached to a massive propaganda campaign, I ask myself who is paying for it and who ultimately benefits. The focus seems to be on restricting social media for minors, that is what the main writer Jack Thorne has said and Australia has already legislated in that area. The new age of censorship is upon us.

Australian social media ban on under-16s approved by parliament

The ban aims to reduce "harms" on children and will take at least a year to implement, the PM says.
www.bbc.co.uk
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A propaganda campaign to stop kids consuming online content, sponsored by Netflix?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,973
SBT said:
‘A propaganda campaign to stop kids consuming online content, sponsored by Netflix?’
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Streaming on Amazon Prime this August
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,974
SBT said:
A propaganda campaign to stop kids consuming online content, sponsored by Netflix?
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Nope, wrong end of the stick as usual, it is to introduce additional censorship of certain unapproved content.
 
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SBT

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,975
Captain Dart said:
Nope, wrong end of the stick as usual, it is to introduce additional censorship of certain unapproved content.
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Is that a big priority for Netflix? For Jack Thorne and Stephen Graham? Just trying to understand where this “massive propaganda campaign” is coming from.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,976
SBT said:
Is that a big priority for Netflix? For Jack Thorne and Stephen Graham? Just trying to understand where this “massive propaganda campaign” is coming from.
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Not sure it was that either but let's face it the hype has worked and it's got shit loads watching it. Job done.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,977
Think 80m pekple watching it worldwide was the hype
 

Marty

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  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,978
I thought it was absolutely fucking shite. Child lashes out after being bullied was the story. The way it was filmed was horrendous too. All in one take wasnt particularly good, just following a piece of paper around corridors until it gets to the next action. The only thing that was any good was Stephen Graham trying to not explode in the final episode.
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,979
SBT said:
Is that a big priority for Netflix? For Jack Thorne and Stephen Graham? Just trying to understand where this “massive propaganda campaign” is coming from.
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Good grief why do you always misunderstand? It's not coming from Netflix, haven't you noticed Starmer has latched on to it, Downing St even invited Graham and Thorne in to talk about it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 5, 2025
  • #49,980
Captain Dart said:
Good grief why do you always misunderstand? It's not coming from Netflix, haven't you noticed Starmer has latched on to it, Downing St even invited Graham and Thorne in to talk about it.
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Like I said, it's a drama about a white middle class family. It's safe for them to pull their cocks off about.

Dramatise the Southport murders and he will be in hiding.
 
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