In Hungary they are giving tax breaks to mothers with children to combat population decline without resorting to immigration. There are other measures as mentioned in the article below.The old Labourites were saying that in the era of jobs for life, strong union membership to protect pay and conditions, more secure employment and housing far closer to wages in cost than today.
Work does not pay if your employment is insecure, wages not keeping up with living costs and pension schemes a shadow of their former selves. I cannot speak much for Gen Z, but among my millennial friends now all in our 30s, 3 of us have/are having children, the rest aren't and it's for economic reasons. The consequences of this declining birth rate we are already seeing and it will either be that you need to be rich to have children or get the state to drastically increase the level of financial support for new parents.
People need to look beyond the up front cost of anything as a reason not to do it. 14 years of the Tories underfunding most things in the name of saving money has ultimately left us with a system in very bad shape needing even more money to fix it than if we'd made the commitments in the first place.
Which song was that?O'Day showing his true colours alright, Madonna did a song about it
True BlueWhich song was that?
The only song I get from that sentence was by Cyndi Lauper
But even if we implemented that there is still going to be a massive lag of a few decades between now and that policy having effect (people deciding to have kids, the kids being conceived/born and then getting old enough to work). So what do we do in the meantime to plug the gap as we have increasing older people and the cost required for them?In Hungary they are giving tax breaks to mothers with children to combat population decline without resorting to immigration. There are other measures as mentioned in the article below.
Hungary announces historic tax cut for mothers
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has introduced what he calls the “largest tax cut in Europe and the entire Western world”.euroweeklynews.com
Material Girl? Assuming Mr O'Day is self identifying.Which song was that?
Please do not take my post as alignment or agreement with that policy, couldn't tell you what it's effect might be, but I do think it is a hell of a lot more imaginative than the policies being pursued over here.But even if we implemented that there is still going to be a massive lag of a few decades between now and that policy having effect (people deciding to have kids, the kids being conceived/born and then getting old enough to work). So what do we do in the meantime to plug the gap as we have increasing older people and the cost required for them?
Plus if we increase the birth rate we're going to need to increase spending in schools, early learning, post natal etc. before we see the benefit of them as adults.
Even then with the economic situation today we're finding increasing numbers of disenfranchised young people wondering why should they bother as they'll just spend their lives working hard to fill someone else's pension pot because they can't afford to own a home.
Immigration is a far more complex thing than "incentivise women to have more kids"
Is she hinting at the impoverished disabled people using them?Liz hits back to Channel 4 News
“hold on we are the party that introduced breakfast clubs at schools”
Crises averted
Well at the very least they could get rid of the triple lock, which is costing an absolute fortune, before actually cutting payments elsewhere.It's performative nonsense. Unless they're proposing a cull of pensioners it's pissing in the wind.
Pensions absolutely dwarf every other DWP payment, and thats before you consider that the fact that the level of other benefits skyrockets in the over 60s. And all of that is before you add in care costs which come out of council budgets and the NHS.
Maybe thats the plan and the cut to WFA is the step one, give it a few years and you'll get a bullet in the head on your 60th
Well at the very least they could get rid of the triple lock, which is costing an absolute fortune, before actually cutting payments elsewhere.
It brought in the minimum wage and brought loads of schools out of disrepair after the Tories had allowed them to rot. Instead this government is so obsessed with penny pinching that it will walk into an electorate that has seen nothing substantively improve and look to the far right for an answer.
once again all you have is snark and no answersO'Day showing his true colours alright, Madonna did a song about it
You said you had a bridge for saleonce again all you have is snark and no answers
i genuinely asked if other people had any sensible suggestions and that is what you pipe up with
to be fair it is about your level
so you don't have a sensible suggestion? you utter fucking charlatan of a manThey've not renationalised it or anything else really as yet? They have ducked water renationalisation despite the chronic problems with the sector. Energy LOL, they've established Great British Energy to do something. I'm sure plans are afoot to renationalise Royal Mail and take telecoms back into public ownership where they should be? The probation service was renationalised by the Tories a few years ago.
The coalition introduced the structure of the welfare system we have today that the current government. The current government retains all of its main features, e.g. the two child benefit cap, the bedroom tax, the structure of Universal Credit. The current government is reducing the circumstances in which you can claim Universal Credit.
Brexit was the government after that.
You utter fucking clown.
more snark and no answerYou said you had a bridge for sale
What's the question though?more snark and no answer
magic beans are more of an answer than you seem to have
Sounds pretty tory to me , oh waitReduce overseas aid
Reduce welfare benefits
Attack people hiding behind mental health issues to not work
Stop winter fuel allowances
Why? What's the underlying objective?.
It's fucking stupid to think that the welfare system doesn't need improving and is fair for a lot of people in it, how you do so can be open to debate.
Yes and now Labour are pandering to the right to stop bleeding voters , whilst bleeding voters anywayReform have thrown the system wide open
Starmer and the party are scared shitless
nonsense, the welfare system isn't fit for purposeReform have thrown the system wide open
Starmer and the party are scared shitless
At both ends they can’t winYes and now Labour are pandering to the right to stop bleeding voters , whilst bleeding voters anyway
Please stop deluding yourself that they're doing this because voters are making them, jesus weptAt both ends they can’t win
Im not stop being so defensivePlease stop deluding yourself that they're doing this because voters are making them, jesus wept
We've become a country of small businesses, they aren't going to employ people who may need additional time off for medical reasons. My boss has a fit if I have a doctors appointment and come in a few minutes late!Job vacancies have been reducing in number for 30 consecutive months. Where's the employer demand for all these former PIP claimants?
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