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rob9872

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,791
PVA said:
Hope all those farmers are fined for using red diesel.
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There seems to be a lot of hypocritical hate for the farmers by the ones who support the right for peaceful protest by JSO, Palestine, vegan pussy marches etc. I'm not saying you do, as I dont know your stance on any of these, but we can't pick and choose our protecting rights to peaceful protest, it's either for all or none, whatever the cause. It seems they're fine unless they have a couple of quid more than you and then it shouldn't be allowed.
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,792
I have only respect for our farmers.
Our countryside is a picture because of their input never mind the food production.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,793
rob9872 said:
There seems to be a lot of hypocritical hate for the farmers by the ones who support the right for peaceful protest by JSO, Palestine, vegan pussy marches etc. I'm not saying you do, as I dont know your stance on any of these, but we can't pick and choose our protecting rights to peaceful protest, it's either for all or none, whatever the cause. It seems they're fine unless they have a couple of quid more than you and then it shouldn't be allowed.
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I'd say the hypocrisy is the other way round!

You can guarantee the majority of those farmers were raging about JSO blocking ambulances etc.

Jeremy Clarkson was saying you're only allowed to protest if you're protesting about Gaza or JSO, yet joined in with the farmer's protest.


Everyone has the right to protest (peacefully, of course).

Using red diesel on the roads is illegal though.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,794
CovValleyBoy said:
I have only respect for our farmers.
Our countryside is a picture because of their input never mind the food production.
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Farmers don't create hills and greenery mate, it's a natural phenomena
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,795
I struggle to understand how making whoever inherits your estate pay inheritance tax after your death has any bearing whatsoever on your current ability to produce food. Can somebody explain?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,796
fernandopartridge said:
I struggle to understand how making whoever inherits your estate pay inheritance tax after your death has any bearing whatsoever on your current ability to produce food. Can somebody explain?
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The land may pass into mom farming hands as family’s won’t be able to afford to keep the farm and pay their inheritance tax

It doesnt stop current farms producing food
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,797
CovValleyBoy said:
I have only respect for our farmers.
Our countryside is a picture because of their input never mind the food production.
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Fucking hell
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,798
PVA said:
I'd say the hypocrisy is the other way round!

You can guarantee the majority of those farmers were raging about JSO blocking ambulances etc.

Jeremy Clarkson was saying you're only allowed to protest if you're protesting about Gaza or JSO, yet joined in with the farmer's protest.


Everyone has the right to protest (peacefully, of course).

Using red diesel on the roads is illegal though.
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They probably were and you're right they're hypocrites too, but anything else is just whataboutery.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,799
rob9872 said:
There seems to be a lot of hypocritical hate for the farmers by the ones who support the right for peaceful protest by JSO, Palestine, vegan pussy marches etc. I'm not saying you do, as I dont know your stance on any of these, but we can't pick and choose our protecting rights to peaceful protest, it's either for all or none, whatever the cause. It seems they're fine unless they have a couple of quid more than you and then it shouldn't be allowed.
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I think JSO have a couple of quid more than most of us. Aileen Getty - Wikipedia
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,800
Sky Blue Pete said:
The land may pass into mom farming hands as family’s won’t be able to afford to keep the farm and pay their inheritance tax

It doesnt stop current farms producing food
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If farming isn’t a sustainable business (which is what the farmers are saying), and we want to subsidise it for national pride reasons, why do it through inheritance tax that just so happens to benefit the uber wealthy rather than just subsidising the food production?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,801
shmmeee said:
If farming isn’t a sustainable business (which is what the farmers are saying), and we want to subsidise it for national pride reasons, why do it through inheritance tax that just so happens to benefit the uber wealthy rather than just subsidising the food production?
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That’s correct too
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,802
Sick Boy said:
Fucking hell
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You ever seen the countryside sickboy
 

rob9872

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,803
shmmeee said:
I think JSO have a couple of quid more than most of us. Aileen Getty - Wikipedia
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I'm also sure some farmers will be poorer, I wasnt talking about an individual, more those in a movement ... although as usual, you knew that too
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,804
fernandopartridge said:
Farmers don't create hills and greenery mate, it's a natural phenomena
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Thought you would have more understanding with a name like Partridge
 

rob9872

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,805
PVA said:
Using red diesel on the roads is illegal though.
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It isnt btw, but is in the instance of the protests.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,806
CovValleyBoy said:
Thought you would have more understanding with a name like Partridge
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My father didn't get on with the farming community
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,807
shmmeee said:
If farming isn’t a sustainable business (which is what the farmers are saying), and we want to subsidise it for national pride reasons, why do it through inheritance tax that just so happens to benefit the uber wealthy rather than just subsidising the food production?
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and likewise if we're concerned about existing farmland being used for other things then we have planning law we can rely on
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,808
rob9872 said:
It isnt btw, but is in the instance of the protests.
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Sorry yes that's what I meant
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,809
fernandopartridge said:
My father didn't get on with the farming community
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I've seen the big eared boys on farms
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,810
rob9872 said:
I'm also sure some farmers will be poorer, I wasnt talking about an individual, more those in a movement ... although as usual, you knew that too
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Just wanted a chance to share my favourite JSO fact
 
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Sbarcher

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,811
Well, looks like big business are reacting to the WFH situation.

‘I’ve had it’: JP Morgan boss rails against Gen Z in expletive-laden outburst

Leaked recording of Jamie Dimon rant highlights growing frustrations over home working
www.telegraph.co.uk
 

Captain Dart

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,812
shmmeee said:
She’s get unending shit because she’s a woman. See the cringe “Rachel from accounts” stuff. I’m not surprised she feels she has to justify herself.

This story is beyond nothing though. Oh no your admin got a dropdown on LinkedIn wrong! Glad we got the BBC to “investigate”
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The stories are about her falsifying her CV, that's OK is it?
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,813
Captain Dart said:
The stories are about her falsifying her CV, that's OK is it?
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1. A LinkedIn profile and a CV are two different things
2. She wasn't hired or given this job based off her fucking LinkedIn profile
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,814
Captain Dart said:
The stories are about her falsifying her CV, that's OK is it?
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No they aren’t. They’re about her LinkedIn being a couple of months off for a job years ago. It has exactly zero bearing on anything so yes it’s perfectly fine. What do you think the punishment for a mistake on a social media platform should be exactly?
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,815
PVA said:
1. A LinkedIn profile and a CV are two different things
2. She wasn't hired or given this job based off her fucking LinkedIn profile
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These motherfuckers thinking Chancellor of the Exchequer is appointed through LinkedIn Easy Apply

No doubt they think Keir Starmer became PM with a particularly good cover letter replying to an Indeed posting.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,816
shmmeee said:
These motherfuckers thinking Chancellor of the Exchequer is appointed through LinkedIn Easy Apply

No doubt they think Keir Starmer because PM with a particularly good cover letter replying to an Indeed posting.
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Desperate distinction, she lied that's the problem.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,817
Sbarcher said:
Well, looks like big business are reacting to the WFH situation.

‘I’ve had it’: JP Morgan boss rails against Gen Z in expletive-laden outburst

Leaked recording of Jamie Dimon rant highlights growing frustrations over home working
www.telegraph.co.uk
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UK working culture. My, oh my. Rant incoming...

There is a big push at the moment to try and get people to stop WFH and back in the office. It is classic British small-mindedness. We were behind the curve in trusting people to do that, but Covid meant there was no other choice. The amount of Linkedin (yes, I hate it) postings and ads that show up, or recruiters that contact me (even though I clearly have a job) trying to push me into a job that's in an office 5 days a week is mad.

Don't get me started on the salaries in the UK either... They are absolutely laughable compared to a lot of other countries. There is this whole crab bucket syndrome here: You will work from home 5 days a week, and you will earn next to nothing for the privilege of it. If you dare to do better we will bitch about you and give you a hard time. Honestly, it is pretty toxic here.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,818
“Let’s fire the chancellor because she’s got 5.5 and not 6 years of experience at a bank”

*spends 14 years voting for Marmalade salesmen and journalists as chancellor*
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,819
Captain Dart said:
Desperate distinction, she lied that's the problem.
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To who? We don’t even know if she did lie. The site auto updates the dates of employment for you half the time. Sorry but if this is the best you’ve got best to go back to your weird anti-vax rants.
 

Mcbean

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,820

PVA said:
I'd say the hypocrisy is the other way round!

You can guarantee the majority of those farmers were raging about JSO blocking ambulances etc.

Jeremy Clarkson was saying you're only allowed to protest if you're protesting about Gaza or JSO, yet joined in with the farmer's protest.


Everyone has the right to protest (peacefully, of course).

Using red diesel on the roads is illegal though.
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I believe you can use red diesel within 15 miles of a farm point
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,821
shmmeee said:
These motherfuckers thinking Chancellor of the Exchequer is appointed through LinkedIn Easy Apply

No doubt they think Keir Starmer became PM with a particularly good cover letter replying to an Indeed posting.
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It's really quite something
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,822
Mcbean said:


I believe you can use red diesel within 15 miles of a farm point
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Not unless you’re doing agricultural work like cutting hedges:

Using rebated fuels in vehicles and machines (Excise Notice 75)

Find out when you can use rebated diesel, biodiesel or kerosene in vehicles and other machinery.
www.gov.uk
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,823
CovValleyBoy said:
You ever seen the countryside sickboy
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Yeah I’m forever grateful to farmers for creating the natural phenomenon of the British countryside.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,824
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
UK working culture. My, oh my. Rant incoming...

There is a big push at the moment to try and get people to stop WFH and back in the office. It is classic British small-mindedness. We were behind the curve in trusting people to do that, but Covid meant there was no other choice. The amount of Linkedin (yes, I hate it) postings and ads that show up, or recruiters that contact me (even though I clearly have a job) trying to push me into a job that's in an office 5 days a week is mad.

Don't get me started on the salaries in the UK either... They are absolutely laughable compared to a lot of other countries. There is this whole crab bucket syndrome here: You will work from home 5 days a week, and you will earn next to nothing for the privilege of it. If you dare to do better we will bitch about you and give you a hard time. Honestly, it is pretty toxic here.
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I find the hybrid approach works best for me but people should be free to choose how and when they work, within reason.

Even though I work for myself I get offered jobs back in the UK every other day and they make a point about the amazing office culture and working environment with a ‘competitive’ salary that’s likely 3-4 times less than what I earn now - no, thanks.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 14, 2025
  • #48,825
Mcbean said:


I believe you can use red diesel within 15 miles of a farm point
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You can go as far as you like on red diesel as long as you're doing agricultural work - which protesting most certainly is not of course!
 
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