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MalcSB · Feb 10, 2025

Second Labour MP apologises over WhatsApp comments

Burnley MP Oliver Ryan says his comments in the group were "completely unacceptable".

www.bbc.co.uk

I would be more impressed by swift action if that included these MPs having to resign and stand again as independents in a bye election. They were elected as labour candidates, not because their local electorate judged them to be very nice, honourable people ( proved wrong in 6 months).

If Gwynne isn’t prosecuted for committing a hate crime in relation to his death wish for an elderly constituent who was merely asking someone to do their as the local representative then that surely demonstrates beyond reasonable doubt the Sir Kier is guilty of a two tier approach to justice and decency.

Sky Blue Pete · Feb 10, 2025

MalcSB said:
It may be a tiny figure, but it has sensitised people against the larger number.

That’s an interesting perspective
So is the larger number ok if they are different people and ok people to us brits
It’s sort of what reform are saying

fernandopartridge · Feb 10, 2025

I wonder who has leaked the chats and why. By no means defending any of these wankers but I doubt very much they are any different from most MPs on all sides.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Feb 10, 2025

Sky Blue Pete said:
Power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts ultimately

Absolute

Grendel · Feb 10, 2025

fernandopartridge said:
I wonder who has leaked the chats and why. By no means defending any of these wankers but I doubt very much they are any different from most MPs on all sides.

Without doubt and news the police are investigating is beyond laughable. I mean its all a bit Jim Davidson but nothing said is really anything worse than a drunken conversation in a pub.

Grendel · Feb 10, 2025

For once I agree with Angela

Angela Rayner doesn't deny saying Keir Starmer 'couldn't run a bath'

She was grilled over comments she is alleged to have made when Labour was in opposition about the leader, with whom she has admitted she does not always see eye-to-eye with.

www.dailymail.co.uk

PVA · Feb 10, 2025

I'm sure absolutely none of these farmers ever complained about JSO protestors from blocking ambulances etc

skybluetony176 · Feb 10, 2025

MalcSB said:
Second Labour MP apologises over WhatsApp comments

Burnley MP Oliver Ryan says his comments in the group were "completely unacceptable".

www.bbc.co.uk

I would be more impressed by swift action if that included these MPs having to resign and stand again as independents in a bye election. They were elected as labour candidates, not because their local electorate judged them to be very nice, honourable people ( proved wrong in 6 months).

If Gwynne isn’t prosecuted for committing a hate crime in relation to his death wish for an elderly constituent who was merely asking him to do his job as the local MP, then that surely demonstrates beyond reasonable doubt the Sir Kier is guilty of a two tier approach to justice and decency.

I think you’re overstating Starmers powers. IIRC the only people who can sack/force a resignation of an MP is said MP’s constituency with a recall petition.

fernandopartridge · Feb 10, 2025

Sample response to the home office videos of people being removed

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Ian1779 · Feb 10, 2025

fernandopartridge said:
Sample response to the home office videos of people being removed

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I’m not sure which set of ghouls is worse.

SBT · Feb 10, 2025

fernandopartridge said:
Sample response to the home office videos of people being removed

If the government shouldn’t do stuff - or even publicise the fact they’re doing stuff - because right-wing headbangers on Zombie Twitter won’t give them any credit for it, then why not just give up now and hand the keys to Farage?

fernandopartridge · Feb 10, 2025

SBT said:
If the government shouldn’t do stuff - or even publicise the fact they’re doing stuff - because right-wing headbangers on Zombie Twitter won’t give them any credit for it, then why not just give up now and hand the keys to Farage?

Who were these videos aimed at?

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skybluetony176 · Feb 10, 2025

After years of publicising arrivals by the right it’s only common sense that Labour publicise departure. The numbers are quite telling also.

Labour have deported more irregular migrants since coming to power than the Tories did in the prior 12 months and by some margin. At this rate outgoings are going to start outweighing incomings. What will be interesting is seeing how this affects the numbers coming in. The chances of being deported have increased greatly now we don’t have a government who deliberately letting the numbers climb in some moronic attempt to create a problem so they can claim that they’re the only ones that can fix it because if we’re being honest that’s exactly what they did. If there’s a high probability that you’ll be deported if you don’t have a genuine asylum claim that in itself has to be a deterrent. Surely?

Which to address the question of why entertain the right wing ghouls. There is another point to advertising it. Inform the chancers who don’t have a legitimate claim for asylum that crossing the channel is pointless because we’re in the deportation business if you don’t have a legitimate claim for asylum.

MalcSB · Feb 11, 2025

skybluetony176 said:
I think you’re overstating Starmers powers. IIRC the only people who can sack/force a resignation of an MP is said MP’s constituency with a recall petition.

So you are saying Starmer has no influence?

Would explain a lot, obviously. He needs to encourage / support a prosecution.

Whilst there are a lot of ifs and buts along the way, a prison sentence of more than a year disbars an individual from being an MP. Resulting in a by-election.

skybluetony176 · Feb 11, 2025

MalcSB said:
So you are saying Starmer has no influence?

Would explain a lot, obviously. He needs to encourage / support a prosecution.

Whilst there are a lot of ifs and buts along the way, a prison sentence of more than a year disbars an individual from being an MP. Resulting in a by-election.

I’m saying Starmer has used the influence he has to its fullest. It’s down to his constituents if they want a new MP which is how it should be. From what I’ve read there’s no suggestion of a criminal conviction simply because no crime was committed. Seems to me you’re using it as an excuse to bash Starmer with no understanding of due process or awareness that due process has been followed to the latter.

shmmeee · Feb 11, 2025

MalcSB said:
So you are saying Starmer has no influence?

Would explain a lot, obviously. He needs to encourage / support a prosecution.

Whilst there are a lot of ifs and buts along the way, a prison sentence of more than a year disbars an individual from being an MP. Resulting in a by-election.

Being mean in private isn’t a crime. What crime do you want prosecuting exactly?

MalcSB · Feb 11, 2025

shmmeee said:
Being mean in private isn’t a crime. What crime do you want prosecuting exactly?

It wasn’t in private was it, it was in a WhatsApp group comprising numerous Labour politicians. It isn’t private now, is it?

So if Tommy Robinson was discussing the same things in a locked back room of a pub with a few of his pals, would that be acceptable as it would be in private. Or could it be conspiracy?

There certainly seems to be racist, annti semitic and ageist hate crime in there. Very revealing what Labour really thinks of older people. Although in reality we have known that for months.

This sleaze must be very embarrassing for you.

Highest standards of public service - my arse!

skybluetony176 · Feb 11, 2025

MalcSB said:
It wasn’t in private was it, it was in a WhatsApp group comprising numerous Labour politicians. It isn’t private now, is it?

So if Tommy Robinson was discussing the same things in a locked back room of a pub with a few of his pals, would that be acceptable as it would be in private. Or could it be conspiracy?

There certainly seems to be racist, annti semitic and ageist hate crime in there. Very revealing what Labour really thinks of older people. Although in reality we have known that for months.

This sleaze must be very embarrassing for you.

Highest standards of public service - my arse!

There’s plenty to be upset with Starmer about without inventing bogeymen. Starmer acted swiftly and to the limit of his remit. What else did you expect him to do exactly without turning into a despot dictator

Say what you like about Starmer but he’s dealt with antisemitism in his party swiftly and precisely any time it’s reared its head, he’s had a zero tolerance to it since day one as leader as the former leader can testify.

Stark contrast to the previous government, especially under Boris who was quite partial to a bit of antisemitism himself, even putting it in print. Maybe you should call for Boris to be arrested in the interest of balance.

fernandopartridge · Feb 11, 2025

skybluetony176 said:
After years of publicising arrivals by the right it’s only common sense that Labour publicise departure. The numbers are quite telling also.

Labour have deported more irregular migrants since coming to power than the Tories did in the prior 12 months and by some margin. At this rate outgoings are going to start outweighing incomings. What will be interesting is seeing how this affects the numbers coming in. The chances of being deported have increased greatly now we don’t have a government who deliberately letting the numbers climb in some moronic attempt to create a problem so they can claim that they’re the only ones that can fix it because if we’re being honest that’s exactly what they did. If there’s a high probability that you’ll be deported if you don’t have a genuine asylum claim that in itself has to be a deterrent. Surely?

Which to address the question of why entertain the right wing ghouls. There is another point to advertising it. Inform the chancers who don’t have a legitimate claim for asylum that crossing the channel is pointless because we’re in the deportation business if you don’t have a legitimate claim for asylum.

You think that a would be migrant is sat watching the home office twitter account in deciding whether to risk it or not?

shmmeee · Feb 11, 2025

MalcSB said:
It wasn’t in private was it, it was in a WhatsApp group comprising numerous Labour politicians. It isn’t private now, is it?

So if Tommy Robinson was discussing the same things in a locked back room of a pub with a few of his pals, would that be acceptable as it would be in private. Or could it be conspiracy?

There certainly seems to be racist, annti semitic and ageist hate crime in there. Very revealing what Labour really thinks of older people. Although in reality we have known that for months.

This sleaze must be very embarrassing for you.

Highest standards of public service - my arse!

It absolutely is in private. It’s a private WhatsApp group among colleagues.

I couldn’t care less. It doesn’t reflect on me at all and like with the Tory chats other than a bit of mild amusement at seeing private chats made public I don’t see the relevance TBH. They’ll lose their positions and life will carry on and politicians will continue to make jokes about constituents as a means of release like players make jokes about fans and refs make jokes about managers and everyone vents about work with colleagues tbh.

But sure. Let’s bang them all up for life for making some shit jokes.

SBT · Feb 11, 2025

fernandopartridge said:
Who were these videos aimed at?

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I assume it’s aimed at voters who are concerned about illegal immigrants. That comprises a lot more people than the GB News reply guys on Twitter, and governments shouldn’t be letting those people determine the mood music anyway.

shmmeee · Feb 11, 2025

Well this is all very stupid. When will politicians learn about this stuff. I swear the spooks try every time a new Home Secretary is appointed.

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A hitherto unknown British organisation – which even the government may have forgotten about – is about to be drawn into a global technical and financial battle, facing threats from Apple to pull out of the UK.

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fernandopartridge · Feb 11, 2025

SBT said:
I assume it’s aimed at voters who are concerned about illegal immigrants. That comprises a lot more people than the GB News reply guys on Twitter, and governments shouldn’t be letting those people determine the mood music anyway.

The tweet has had 228k views

rob9872 · Feb 11, 2025

fernandopartridge said:
The tweet has had 228k views

Can you explain (to a dinosaur please) does a view mean actually clicked on the post or does it mean read as you scroll up your feed? As I see all kinds of stuff that I don't follow, but if eg that caught my attention and I stopped to read it, I'm then spammed with lots of similar stuff. I thought comments or engagements rather than views a better barometer, but not sure how the data is collected. Tyia.

shmmeee · Feb 11, 2025

rob9872 said:
Can you explain (to a dinosaur please) does a view mean actually clicked on the post or does it mean read as you scroll up your feed? As I see all kinds of stuff that I don't follow, but if eg that caught my attention and I stopped to read it, I'm then spammed with lots of similar stuff. I thought comments or engagements rather than views a better barometer, but not sure how the data is collected. Tyia.

https://help.x.com/en/using-x/view-counts#:~:text=Anyone%20who%20is%20logged%20into,not%20add%20to%20view%20counts.

(logged in users who scroll past basically)

SBT · Feb 11, 2025

fernandopartridge said:
The tweet has had 228k views

OK? So the deportations stop until they can be backed up by a banger tweet and a Richard Tice repost?

fernandopartridge · Feb 11, 2025

rob9872 said:
Can you explain (to a dinosaur please) does a view mean actually clicked on the post or does it mean read as you scroll up your feed? As I see all kinds of stuff that I don't follow, but if eg that caught my attention and I stopped to read it, I'm then spammed with lots of similar stuff. I thought comments or engagements rather than views a better barometer, but not sure how the data is collected. Tyia.

I was wondering the same, there is an explanation here:

How Twitter Views Work: Understanding Impressions and Engagement

In this article, we’ll explore the mechanics of Twitter views, explain how algorithms affect tweet visibility, and offer actionable tips to boost impressions and engagement.

www.socialplug.io

not sure if that is still up to date

MalcSB · Feb 11, 2025

skybluetony176 said:
There’s plenty to be upset with Starmer about without inventing bogeymen. Starmer acted swiftly and to the limit of his remit. What else did you expect him to do exactly without turning into a despot dictator

Say what you like about Starmer but he’s dealt with antisemitism in his party swiftly and precisely any time it’s reared its head, he’s had a zero tolerance to it since day one as leader as the former leader can testify.

Stark contrast to the previous government, especially under Boris who was quite partial to a bit of antisemitism himself, even putting it in print. Maybe you should call for Boris to be arrested in the interest of balance.

If I was going to ask for anything to be looked at in the interest of balance, it would be Starmer's beer and curry party.

MalcSB · Feb 11, 2025

fernandopartridge said:
I was wondering the same, there is an explanation here:

How Twitter Views Work: Understanding Impressions and Engagement

In this article, we’ll explore the mechanics of Twitter views, explain how algorithms affect tweet visibility, and offer actionable tips to boost impressions and engagement.

www.socialplug.io

not sure if that is still up to date

How does that work for X

skybluetony176 · Feb 11, 2025

fernandopartridge said:
You think that a would be migrant is sat watching the home office twitter account in deciding whether to risk it or not?

Unlikely but then I also doubt that a home office twitter feed is the only possible way a would be migrant gets their news either. Fact is that the smugglers have been able to use the Tories inefficiencies as a sales tool. At least Starmer seems to be addressing that by doing the basic of processing them and sending illegitimate asylum seekers home.

skybluetony176 · Feb 11, 2025

MalcSB said:
If I was going to ask for anything to be looked at in the interest of balance, it would be Starmer's beer and curry party.

A third time? Doesn’t sound very balanced to me.

fernandopartridge · Feb 11, 2025

I'm sure somebody committing electoral fraud would do so on the record and so explicitly, Tory idiot

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chiefdave · Feb 11, 2025

skybluetony176 said:
Unlikely but then I also doubt that a home office twitter feed is the only possible way a would be migrant gets their news either. Fact is that the smugglers have been able to use the Tories inefficiencies as a sales tool. At least Starmer seems to be addressing that by doing the basic of processing them and sending illegitimate asylum seekers home.

There was a documentary about immingatrion recently and there showed how kids in Albania are being absolutely bombarded with ads on TikTok and other social media from the people smugglers showing them a fantastic life waiting for them in the uk.

That's where they need to target to make a difference. Not a few tweets playing to the reform crowd.

MalcSB · Feb 11, 2025

fernandopartridge said:
I'm sure somebody committing electoral fraud would do so on the record and so explicitly, Tory idiot

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I doubt you would have been making such a comment if it was the other way round, I.e. Labour accused of rigging the vote. It is part of what makes me so angry, the majority of posters on here are Labour supporters (as is to be expected), but practically none of you can see beyond your brainwashed dogma. Labour can do no wrong because they are determined to maintaining the highest standards in public office. And failing.

Gwynne involved again.

Sky Blue Pete · Feb 11, 2025

MalcSB said:
I doubt you would have been making such a comment if it was the other way round, I.e. Labour accused of rigging the vote. It is part of what makes me so angry, the majority of posters on here are Labour supporters (as is to be expected), but practically none of you can see beyond your brainwashed dogma. Labour can do no wrong because they are determined to maintaining the highest standards in public office. And failing.

Gwynne involved again.

To be fair the police could easily be involved and check if it’s legitimate
No one is saying it’s not wrong it’s just why tweet rather than go to the police
To undermine labour
If it happened it’s wrong it’s not proven with that tweet is it

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