Fucking loads!
Are there many French Chateaus in West London?
That is a fair point - I wonder if it was boosted by Labour’s HS2 policy?Labour were the second highest party in 2017 with 11,000 votes. The minute they try and manipulate results is the day they totally disappear as a political party
I wonder if the next few days will be dominated by stories about people abandoning the Tories, the blue wall crumbling and the Tories being totally unelectable in these parts like when Labour lost Hartlepool?
Of course not. It'll be brushed under the carpet and forgotten about by the media by lunchtime.
That is a fair point - I wonder if it was boosted by Labour’s HS2 policy?
To be honest you get these results sometimes and the Lib Dem’s it seems threw a lot at it
Lib Dem wins seat - leader says this is a new era in politics - next general election they lose it again
That said I can’t believe Labour are not alarmed at such a collapse - they wilo have to retain Batley - defeat there and where can they go
All you’ll hear is ‘so you want Richard Burgon?’ but the moves will come from the opposite wing of the Party.I suspect to the end of the road for Starmer at party conference time.
Apparently, it is Labour's lowest share of the vote in a by-election since records began in 1918. Another first.
This is a genuinely curious question. I can place my hand on election results in 1774, so I'm curious what 'since records began' actually means in this instance.since records began in 1918
This is a genuinely curious question. I can place my hand on election results in 1774, so I'm curious what 'since records began' actually means in this instance.
I'm not sure why this is being pushed as a disaster for Labour and not the Tories... who lost a bigger % votes and lost the bloody seat itself!
It's bad for both, but much worse for the Tories.
More flagsSo, under Kier Starmer Labour has lost two by-elections, one in the so called 'red wall' and one in the so called 'blue wall'. What's the plan here?
Be interesting to see how this all plays out. A lot of vox pops this morning going with the blue wall crumbling because too much attention is being paid to the red wall but it would be very foolish to get carried away off the back of one result.Lib Dem hippie yoga master leader says it ‘sends a shockwave’. Not really, seems pretty clear that there is a political realignment in progress where the Tories are happy to drop leafy suburbs
I'm amazed that a Blair & Starmer endorsed candidate hasn't roared to victoryLabour had 622 votes
So, under Kier Starmer Labour has lost two by-elections, one in the so called 'red wall' and one in the so called 'blue wall'. What's the plan here?
Be interesting to see how this all plays out. A lot of vox pops this morning going with the blue wall crumbling because too much attention is being paid to the red wall but it would be very foolish to get carried away off the back of one result.
There needs to be effective opposition from somewhere because it doesn't look likes its coming any time soon from Labour. An effectively one party system is no good for anyone no matter who is in charge.
I'm amazed that a Blair & Starmer endorsed candidate hasn't roared to victoryThere's no way they can spin that number of votes, losing their deposit and coming 4th as anything but a disaster. Surely they can't continue with their head in the sand everything is fine just wait for a general election mantra?
Still they've got their new Stronger Together campaign, sure that'll do the trick. Worked so well for Hilary Clinton and during the Brexit campaign.
There is no doubt some areas with the combo of high remain vote/south of England (feeling ignored) will move away from Tories. Starmer needs these but looks like Lib Dem’s will make it a battle
You can't have an alliance when you've got no real common ground. I wouldn't vote for it.I think it requires a formal Lib-Lab-Green alliance to be honest.
You can't have an alliance when you've got no real common ground. I wouldn't vote for it.
I mean a stand down agreement to allow the anti Tory to win more seats.
I mean a stand down agreement to allow the anti Tory to win more seats.
Id rather not vote than vote Green or Lib Dem, sorry.
Why’s that?
Why’s that?
Id rather not vote than vote Green or Lib Dem, sorry.
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