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CovValleyBoy

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,846
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,847
shmmeee said:
I find it very weird that you hate anyone that gets into government left or right.
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In my time as a member on here we've had a Tory government and a few months of this Labour one, so it's not a huge sample size really.

It isn't necessarily about who they are, it's about what they do. Currently the government isn't really doing much if anything that I support.

How can you be surprised that I'm not keen on a government given my obvious preferences.
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,848
shmmeee said:
The point is unregulated and unobserved “schooling” isn’t best for your child.
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In all circumstances?

Even if you can’t get your child in to a local school when the private one your child attended has closed because of significant additional taxation in the name of collectivism.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,849
So, what I’ve been saying since time began, each new government are as corrupt as the government it replaces.
Tulips gone, what will Sir do next
I fucking hate politics, they will literally sell their soul to the devil himself to say the right things to get elected.
Corrupt bastards each and everyone one of them.
Can’t wait for this growth the current lit bang on about, don’t worry, do as the last lot did, just blame the last government for everything for for the next 4/5 years.
Rinse and repeat
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,850
fernandopartridge said:
In my time as a member on here we've had a Tory government and a few months of this Labour one, so it's not a huge sample size really.

It isn't necessarily about who they are, it's about what they do. Currently the government isn't really doing much if anything that I support.

How can you be surprised that I'm not keen on a government given my obvious preferences.
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I mean I thought you were left wing, yet your rhetoric suggests you’re right wing. I think you just like moaning tbh.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,851
MalcSB said:
In all circumstances?

Even if you can’t get your child in to a local school when the private one your child attended has closed because of significant additional taxation in the name of collectivism.
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Yeah in all circumstances. You can get your child into a state school because your local authority has a legal obligation to your child.

But sure let’s just make some more nonsense up to justify being grumpy at everything for no reason.

 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,852
Finally some better economic news for Reeves. Needed as things were unravelling


Let’s hope it’s not because the wheels have already come off and an economic downturn is feeding through into inflation figures (probably not, bit too soon)
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,853
CCFCSteve said:
Finally some better economic news for Reeves. Needed as things were unravelling

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Let’s hope it’s not because the wheels have already come off and an economic downturn is feeding through into inflation figures (probably not, bit too soon)
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In what way were things unravelling?
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,854
Awkward for Grendel

 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,855
Lads, if you voted for possibly the dumbest ever economic move, I’d probably stay a bit quiet on economics.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,856
shmmeee said:
Awkward for Grendel

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Clarke is as much of a twat as Starmer is.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,857
shmmeee said:
In what way were things unravelling?
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Bond/gilt yields have recently gone through the roof (due to global affects not just U.K. economy/government policy), the additional government borrowing costs have removed all of Reeves headroom, markets are still unconvinced of medium term growth prospects so without taking action (increased taxes or cuts - both also negatively impacting growth) markets would’ve lost even more confidence, thereby increasing borrowing costs further….thats what I meant by unravelling

If inflation remains higher for longer, Bank of England would delay reducing rates, the longer they stay higher, without there being decent growth, the more they would stifle the economy. Hence it being good news today

It’s such a fine tightrope Reeves/the government are walking I do have some sympathy but theres also been some policy decisions that have made it harder for themselves
 
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CovValleyBoy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,858
The Reverend Skyblue said:
So, what I’ve been saying since time began, each new government are as corrupt as the government it replaces.
Tulips gone, what will Sir do next
I fucking hate politics, they will literally sell their soul to the devil himself to say the right things to get elected.
Corrupt bastards each and everyone one of them.
Can’t wait for this growth the current lit bang on about, don’t worry, do as the last lot did, just blame the last government for everything for for the next 4/5 years.
Rinse and repeat
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Yes the Uniparty. Its days are numbered.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,859
shmmeee said:
Yeah in all circumstances. You can get your child into a state school because your local authority has a legal obligation to your child.
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You can get a place, whether it's realistic or possible or not is another question.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,860
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shmmeee said:
Awkward for Grendel

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Why - he is a geriatric buffoon who ironically is more to the left than Reeves anyway
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,861
shmmeee said:
In what way were things unravelling?
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I think they may achieve what they've set as the target,, we'll all be happy to work for peanuts if you will, they are doing the work of the devil..
Lower wage by fear, relatively A healthy unemployment rate unemployment,and company failures,of course I could be wrong, but I'm sure the evidence is there.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,862
Grendel said:
I did ask you what aspects of the budget do you believe were targeted at achieving economic growth?
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Arguably most of it was going to achieve the opposite.

Current performance seems somewhat QED.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,863
Sick Boy said:
Oh well. I’m sure the EU will continue to cope.
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In some respects, it seems to be having a few problems.
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,864
Sky Blue Pete said:
Billions of Chinese currency
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Alledgedly 5 hours of UK government spending.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,865
Sky Blue Pete said:
The children and welfare bill???
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Just had another look at it. I’m sure @shmmeee will be thrilled that Elton’s kids will be getting a free breakfast. Won’t these free breakfasts cost more than the WFA?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,866
MalcSB said:
Just had another look at it. I’m sure @shmmeee will be thrilled that Elton’s kids will be getting a free breakfast. Won’t these free breakfasts cost more than the WFA?
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Yep Marxist cull of the population following the facist Hancock model of culling the old peoples homes
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,867
MalcSB said:
Just had another look at it. I’m sure @shmmeee will be thrilled that Elton’s kids will be getting a free breakfast. Won’t these free breakfasts cost more than the WFA?
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Elton’s kids aren’t millionaires. Elton is. Nice try though.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,868
My daughters school is part of the scheme already being in Bedworth and it’s literally a staff member stood with a box of cold dry bagels offering them to kids as they walk in.

Checked the numbers and this is a cost of about £600m a year or about a third of the savings from WFA.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,869
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep Marxist cull of the population following the facist Hancock model of culling the old peoples homes
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It could have been worse, they should have been in their own abode's and released them to market force's?
This isn't a serious view.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,870
wingy said:
It could have been worse, they should have been in their own abode's and released them to market force's?
This isn't a serious view.
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Nor mine
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,871
MalcSB said:
In some respects, it seems to be having a few problems.
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As a result of Brexit? Like what?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,872
Sick Boy said:
As a result of Brexit? Like what?
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Getting left out in the cold, they got an alliance with America for instance.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,873
CCFCSteve said:
Finally some better economic news for Reeves. Needed as things were unravelling

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Let’s hope it’s not because the wheels have already come off and an economic downturn is feeding through into inflation figures (probably not, bit too soon)
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U.S. CPI* also slightly better than expected. Good news again. Might help bond yields further as ours seem to have followed US of late. Might also help to weaken dollar a little which could give pound/other currencies a bump

*edit - core was better
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,874
CCFCSteve said:
U.S. CPI also slightly better than expected. Good news again. Might help bond yields further as ours seem to have followed US of late. Might also help to weaken dollar a little which could give pound/other currencies a bump
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How's that looking, have the Chinese just released that US debt or something?
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,875
wingy said:
How's that looking, have the Chinese just released that US debt or something?
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Not sure I understand Wingy ? Think China has been selling some U.S. bonds recently

Hopefully if their yields (borrowing rates) come down a bit so will ours as we fish in the same pond for international investors/buyers of bonds
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,876
shmmeee said:
My daughters school is part of the scheme already being in Bedworth and it’s literally a staff member stood with a box of cold dry bagels offering them to kids as they walk in.

Checked the numbers and this is a cost of about £600m a year or about a third of the savings from
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CovValleyBoy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,877
Two breakfasts ? No wonder child obesity is on the rise.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,878
shmmeee said:
Lads, if you voted for possibly the dumbest ever economic move, I’d probably stay a bit quiet on economics.
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Do you mean those who voted Labour?
Will you take your own advice?
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,879
I thought they were free?
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #47,880
CovValleyBoy said:
Two breakfasts ? No wonder child obesity is on the rise.
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Those stats will be interesting to watch.
 
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