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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (16 Viewers)

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,811
MalcSB said:
They had 14 years prep time.
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Yep and the bill just had its second reading
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,812
Captain Dart said:
A Bill that will take rights from parents to do what's best for their child! Is the intention for the state to become the parent?
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The point is unregulated and unobserved “schooling” isn’t best for your child.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,813
Sky Blue Pete said:
Not much specific there
I am surprised they’ve not done pr better
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All of it is “I didn’t get free shit” and flows from there.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,814
MalcSB said:
The pre election lies and dissembling.

The post election targeting of pensioners in a complete about face from what they saying to make political capital, before the election.

The general two faced approach

The complete lack of oratorical skills of Starmer, Reeves and Rayner.

What seems a lack of conviction and certainly lack of inspiration when attempting to explain or justify what they are doing / proposing.

The contradictions- we need to build new houses / there is plenty of housing (Rayner).
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If one of the top 6 things you can come up with that you are most outraged about is that you don’t like the way they speak then I’d say they’re probably doing a half decent job.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,815
shmmeee said:
The point is unregulated and unobserved “schooling” isn’t best for your child.
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Yep damn straight
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,816
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep damn straight
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I did ask you what aspects of the budget do you believe were targeted at achieving economic growth?
 

SBAndy

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,817
MalcSB said:
The pre election lies and dissembling.

The post election targeting of pensioners in a complete about face from what they saying to make political capital, before the election.

The general two faced approach

The complete lack of oratorical skills of Starmer, Reeves and Rayner.

What seems a lack of conviction and certainly lack of inspiration when attempting to explain or justify what they are doing / proposing.

The contradictions- we need to build new houses / there is plenty of housing (Rayner).
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I disagree on the level of principle regarding the removal of the WFA so hastily but coming from the view of personal responsibility why didn’t they plan better for their retirement?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,818
Grendel the wishful thinking I think
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,819
Any news on how AI mainlining is going to help hospitals currently declaring critical incidents over their ability to see patients in A&E?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,820
SBAndy said:
I disagree on the level of principle regarding the removal of the WFA so hastily but coming from the view of personal responsibility why didn’t they plan better for their retirement?
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It was introduced 28 years ago
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,821
fernandopartridge said:
Any news on how AI mainlining is going to help hospitals currently declaring critical incidents over their ability to see patients in A&E?
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Wes Streeting has visited a few - to be fair if he goes to A and E then most people unless they are dying will go home rather than meet that obnoxious twat
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,822
Sky Blue Pete said:
Grendel the wishful thinking I think
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You keep asking what have they done wrong.

The budget was a disaster for business and unless changes are made jobs will be lost and business will retract not grow
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,823
"we have every confidence in her"

Tulip Siddiq resigns as Treasury minister

It comes after growing pressure over anti-corruption investigations in Bangladesh.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,824
Captain Dart said:
A Bill that will take rights from parents to do what's best for their child! Is the intention for the state to become the parent?
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I thought it was nanny state, not mummy state.
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,825
Sky Blue Pete said:
Not much specific there
I am surprised they’ve not done pr better
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Does it have to be specific? The general is enough to make be dissatisfied such that I view any specifics through a sharpened negative prism.

Do you find any of them inspiring?
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,826
Grendel said:
"we have every confidence in her"

Tulip Siddiq resigns as Treasury minister

It comes after growing pressure over anti-corruption investigations in Bangladesh.
www.bbc.co.uk
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First one down.
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,827
PVA said:
If one of the top 6 things you can come up with that you are most outraged about is that you don’t like the way they speak then I’d say they’re probably doing a half decent job.
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If they want a second term, they at least trying to get people like me on side.

I attended a confernce which was addreesed by John Reid when he was health secretary (iirc). Whatever he was, he was a good speaker. Even though I disagreed with what he was saying and the underlying dogma, I felt a real level of commitment and inspiration coming from him such that I decided discretion was the better part of valour and decided not to challenge him.

I may of course have been wrong, given the following ( admittedly Wiki)

Most slippery" politician​

A study in early 2007 found that Reid is an evasive interviewee:

"Mr Reid failed to answer 44 per cent of questions put to him, compared to 42 per cent for Mr Blair... A team led by Prof Geoff Beattie, the resident psychologist on Channel 4's Big Brother, reviewed every political television interview by Britain's 10 highest-profile MPs over three weeks and analysed responses."[9]

It would be fascinating to see a post election study. They all seem reasonably good at answering questions they has hoped to be asked and had prepared for, rather than the questions actually asked. I think Blair referred to it as “pivoting”
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,828
What happened to the former contestants on TV's popular show 'Robot Wars'?

They turned their attention to hoodwinking idiot ministers into believing that a robot could solve the problem of potholes without requiring significant spending

World's first pothole preventing robot using AI | RAC Drive

Hertfordshire County Council have announced the introduction of a new robot that uses the power of AI to tackle the UK’s ongoing pothole problem.
www.rac.co.uk
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,829
Great to hear today that HRH Princess of Wales' cancer is in remission.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,830
fernandopartridge said:
Any news on how AI mainlining is going to help hospitals currently declaring critical incidents over their ability to see patients in A&E?
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Grendel said:
You keep asking what have they done wrong.

The budget was a disaster for business and unless changes are made jobs will be lost and business will retract not grow
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No I don’t
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,831
Grendel said:
"we have every confidence in her"

Tulip Siddiq resigns as Treasury minister

It comes after growing pressure over anti-corruption investigations in Bangladesh.
www.bbc.co.uk
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You do wonder why she was ever involved in politics
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,832
fernandopartridge said:
What happened to the former contestants on TV's popular show 'Robot Wars'?

They turned their attention to hoodwinking idiot ministers into believing that a robot could solve the problem of potholes without requiring significant spending

World's first pothole preventing robot using AI | RAC Drive

Hertfordshire County Council have announced the introduction of a new robot that uses the power of AI to tackle the UK’s ongoing pothole problem.
www.rac.co.uk
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Its just some government funding for a UK startup
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,833
fernandopartridge said:
You do wonder why she was ever involved in politics
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You can add this one to my list of disappointments.

Labour politician corruption. That was supposed to be an impossibility, wasn’t it?
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,834
shmmeee said:
Its just some government funding for a UK startup
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Just like GB Energy?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,835
fernandopartridge said:
You do wonder why she was ever involved in politics
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Why?
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,836
fernandopartridge said:
What happened to the former contestants on TV's popular show 'Robot Wars'?

They turned their attention to hoodwinking idiot ministers into believing that a robot could solve the problem of potholes without requiring significant spending

World's first pothole preventing robot using AI | RAC Drive

Hertfordshire County Council have announced the introduction of a new robot that uses the power of AI to tackle the UK’s ongoing pothole problem.
www.rac.co.uk
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The full title for the equipment for filling pot holes surely has to be ARRES Holes ( capitals the name in the article).
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,837
MalcSB said:
Just like GB Energy?
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GB Energy isn’t a UK startup.

This thread is getting more and more mental. Is anyone out there in touch with reality?
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,838
shmmeee said:
Why?
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Sounds a bit crooked, allegedly. Keen on money, perhaps any ill gotten gains could be seized and used in a collectivist way.

I thought this rabble were supposed to be holier than the other lot. Id they are, it’s by a cigarette paper’s width.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,839
MalcSB said:
Sounds a bit crooked, allegedly. Keen on money, perhaps any ill gotten gains could be seized and used in a collectivist way.

I thought this rabble were supposed to be holier than the other lot. Id they are, it’s by a cigarette paper’s width.
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If you’re keen on money and well connected politics is probably the worst possible career choice.

She’s not actually been proven to have done anything wrong yet. Not that that matters to those who blame the weather on Keir Starmer.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,840
shmmeee said:
Why?
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Indeed
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,841
fernandopartridge said:
Indeed
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I find it very weird that you hate anyone that gets into government left or right.
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,842
shmmeee said:
If you’re keen on money and well connected politics is probably the worst possible career choice.

She’s not actually been proven to have done anything wrong yet. Not that that matters to those who blame the weather on Keir Starmer.
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Was he christened Keir ? Or did he start out as Keith ??
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,843
Keith certainly suits him.
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,844
shmmeee said:
If you’re keen on money and well connected politics is probably the worst possible career choice.

She’s not actually been proven to have done anything wrong yet. Not that that matters to those who blame the weather on Keir Starmer.
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An innocent resigns. Unusual isn’t it
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #47,845
CovValleyBoy said:
Keith certainly suits him.
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As does fucking gammon boomer monotonous arsehole twat.

Can you tell I'm not all that keen on him?
 
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