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shmmeee

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  • Jun 16, 2021
  • #4,691
SBAndy said:
Has it? Sure I read the other day that WhatsApp/Facebook are still arguing with the Government about it.
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Oh really? Then in that case it’s probably still safe. Well as safe as any Zukerberg company is with your data.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 16, 2021
  • #4,692
Skybluefaz said:
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Why didn't Johnson sack him?
Apart from the obvious, which is he's even more useless than Hancock.
And what malevolent little fucker Cummings is!
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jun 16, 2021
  • #4,693
clint van damme said:
Why didn't Johnson sack him?
Apart from the obvious, which is he's even more useless than Hancock.
And what malevolent little fucker Cummings is!
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It's the incompetence that gets me. Totally dysfunctional
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 16, 2021
  • #4,694
Oh those scousers.

Three Bellends pub renamed The Two Helmets in a fresh dig at the Tories

Dan Davies changed the name of his New Brighton pub last year in anger at the government's pandemic response and has renamed it again in a further slightly-rude protest
www.mirror.co.uk
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 16, 2021
  • #4,695
clint van damme said:
Why didn't Johnson sack him?
Apart from the obvious, which is he's even more useless than Hancock.
And what malevolent little fucker Cummings is!
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He needs people like Hancock around him. It’s his best hope for looking like he’s got any competence himself.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 16, 2021
  • #4,696
skybluetony176 said:
He needs people like Hancock around him. It’s his best hope for looking like he’s got any competence himself.
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Yep plus someone to act as fall guy.

Sack Hancock and say 'it was all his fault, everything else we did was brilliant, we've sacked him now so we've dealt with it. No more questions about our pandemic response'.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 16, 2021
  • #4,697
PVA said:
Yep plus someone to act as fall guy.

Sack Hancock and say 'it was all his fault, everything else we did was brilliant, we've sacked him now so we've dealt with it. No more questions about our pandemic response'.
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Not that many years ago you’d ask who the biggest idiot is. The idiot or the idiot that surrounds himself with idiots. I’m struggling to think of a minister in my lifetime who’s worse than anyone of the current cabinet. John Redwood maybe, David Mellor? Other than them 2 I’m struggling. It’s not just the incompetence it’s the lack of any integrity.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,698
Gavin Williamson is easily the most incompetent of those holding dept briefs.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,699
dubed said:
Gavin Williamson is easily most incompetent of those holding dept briefs.
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What rattles me most about GW is that he talks like he’s been trained in toff, but occasionally the mask slips and he sounds like he’s from deepest darkest Dudley.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,700
SBAndy said:
What rattles me most about GW is that he talks like he’s been trained in toff, but occasionally the mask slips and he sounds like he’s from deepest darkest Dudley.
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I think that’s deliberate to be more ‘down with the plebs’, like Gideon’s fake guttural stops
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,701
dubed said:
Gavin Williamson is easily most incompetent of those holding dept briefs.
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You assume the Tories want to improve state education. Why would they do something that reduces the value of their investments in private?
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,702
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,703
Fake. Never existed.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,704
dubed said:
Fake. Never existed.
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Obviously, you haven't seen the ones with the riding saddles!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,705
Poots under pressure already.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,706
clint van damme said:
Poots under pressure already.
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Just resigned.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,707
skybluetony176 said:
Just resigned.
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Madness!
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,708
clint van damme said:
Madness!
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The DUP is in chaos. I think it’s dawning on them the magnitude of what backing Brexit and then putting their faith in Boris has done. The end is nigh for Northern Ireland and they did more to deliver it than the Republicans could ever have personally dreamed of achieving.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,709
skybluetony176 said:
The DUP is in chaos. I think it’s dawning on them the magnitude of what backing Brexit and then putting their faith in Boris has done. The end is nigh for Northern Ireland and they did more to deliver it than the Republicans could ever have personally dreamed of achieving.
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Yep truly unbelievable
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,710
Quelle suprise.

"Why do smart people inflate house prices? Sunak's stamp duty slip up" Why do smart people inflate house prices? Sunak's stamp duty slip up
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 17, 2021
  • #4,711
skybluetony176 said:
Just resigned.
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Martin Sheen to play him in a film - The Damned United Ireland

Although I reject the narrative that he resigned after 21 days. That is false evidence put there by the devil and he did in fact resign after 25 minutes.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,712
Overturning a 16K Tory majority and getting an 8K one of your own is quite the result. Even more so in a by-election.

 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,713
Ian1779 said:
Overturning a 16K Tory majority and getting an 8K one of your own is quite the result. Even more so in a by-election.

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Not a great result for Labour either. If the Libs can give the government a bloody nose why can't they?

A bad result in Bately and Starmer must be under severe pressure surely?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,714
clint van damme said:
Not a great result for Labour either. If the Libs can give the government a bloody nose why can't they?

A bad result in Bately and Starmer must be under severe pressure surely?
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I think here in this particular constituency, there has been some heavy tactical voting that has suppressed the Labour vote, as well as there being some big local issues in play here (HS2) but it’s still a hell of a result.
If Labour had any sense they’d have struck a deal with this seat and Batley and Spen to divert support accordingly to beat the Tories.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,715
LAB -11.2%, deposit forfeited.

all but irrelevant.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,716
Lib Dem hippie yoga master leader says it ‘sends a shockwave’. Not really, seems pretty clear that there is a political realignment in progress where the Tories are happy to drop leafy suburbs
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,717
clint van damme said:
Not a great result for Labour either. If the Libs can give the government a bloody nose why can't they?

A bad result in Bately and Starmer must be under severe pressure surely?
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Labour had 622 votes
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,718
Ian1779 said:
I think here in this particular constituency, there has been some heavy tactical voting that has suppressed the Labour vote, as well as there being some big local issues in play here (HS2) but it’s still a hell of a result.
If Labour had any sense they’d have struck a deal with this seat and Batley and Spen to divert support accordingly to beat the Tories.
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Labour were the second highest party in 2017 with 11,000 votes. The minute they try and manipulate results is the day they totally disappear as a political party
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,719
Grendel said:
Labour were the second highest party in 2017 with 11,000 votes. The minute they try and manipulate results is the day they totally disappear as a political party
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And to think some people say there is still a path back to a Labour government
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,720
clint van damme said:
Not a great result for Labour either. If the Libs can give the government a bloody nose why can't they?

A bad result in Bately and Starmer must be under severe pressure surely?
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You need to take a step back. What’s happening is a demographic realignment and bugger all to do with any of the leaders.

If Labour want to survive it, they need to become either anti woke or much more pro business and NIMBY.

I suspect we’ll end up with the national socialism (in name only) of the Tories and the international neoliberalism of the Lib Dem’s while the Greens and Labour fight it out for the 20% student vote.

Personally I don’t think the Tories have either the wit nor the capacity to hold onto the left wing economic vote. Ultimately they are donor driven not member driven and their new voters like all voters will demand their material needs are met and they’ll have to pick between the voters and the donors. Johnson is a very special Tory and he hasn’t the energy to last like Blair or Thatcher did. What comes next on all sides will be very interesting.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,721
Grendel said:
Labour were the second highest party in 2017 with 11,000 votes. The minute they try and manipulate results is the day they totally disappear as a political party
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You mean like the Tories did with BXP/UKIP?
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,722
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,723
shmmeee said:
You mean like the Tories did with BXP/UKIP?
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Not really as those parties are gone. The Lib Dem’s will hang around for ever
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,724
Skybluefaz said:
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Is that broadcast from his french chateau
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 18, 2021
  • #4,725
Grendel said:
Is that broadcast from his french chateau
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Are there many French Chateaus in West London?
 
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