Isn't that Uni students?Hold on - aren’t about 50% of private students foreign?
It's a bit like the CQC for the NHS. So much time, effort and cost put in to demoralise everyone.Her claims around the reform of OFSTED for example are nothing but cosmetic. The one word overall ‘judgment’ doesn’t appear on a website as a header, but the same judgements by category are still there.
The culture of judgements and the practice of the organisation has not changed one bit - it’s still toxic as ever, just not as obvious to outsiders.
@chiefdave I found somewhere suggesting 11% (141) private schools could close. Bit shit for the state sector if 10 of this happened to be close to each other.
Brilliant for people who own nice homes in the catchment areas of the best state schools. The will make a packet of capital gain.
Unfortunately doesn't apply to me though @shmmeee
Isn't that Uni students?
No fucking idea.
If only, although never was my thing.Why on earth do you think state schools don’t want an influx of highly motivated children with parents committed to education? Are you high?
How does he know?The Tonester said the majority of private school children were from overseas
You tried getting one into a state school recently? Especially during the school year?Why on earth do you think state schools don’t want an influx of highly motivated children with parents committed to education? Are you high?
If only, although never was my thing.
Why do you think that state school pupils are going want to compete for the attention of an insufficient number of teachers who are being harangued by pushy parents. Are you quite mad, or just totally indoctrinated.
I have come to the conclusion that if you had been raised in early 1930's Germany you would have been a rabid SS member.
You tried getting one into a state school recently? Especially during the school year?
I'm saying have you tried to get a kid into state school from private recently?So you’re saying the state system needs more resources. Interesting.
Its fairly self evident I would have thought. But like everything, the resources are never provided ahead of the change, increasing likelihood of failure.So you’re saying the state system needs more resources. Interesting.
I'm saying have you tried to get a kid into state school from private recently?
No because I don’t believe in private education. I have got kids into state schools and I have worked in state schools where kids have come and gone mid year. My daughter’s primary half the class left in January to go to Henry’s for example, as they do every year. I missed your gnashing of teeth then.
Younhave such a closed mind. You don’t believe in much other than class war.
No because I don’t believe in private education. I have got kids into state schools and I have worked in state schools where kids have come and gone mid year. My daughter’s primary half the class left in January to go to Henry’s for example, as they do every year. I missed your gnashing of teeth then.
Do you have any thoughts that weren’t written by the Daily Mail copy team?
I spent years in education, both theory and practice, and it’s my belief that private education as the UK does it is a bad idea. However I’m generally pro parental choice, it’s a really thorny area at the best of times, so I don’t support an outright ban, but asking them to pay the same tax my 9 year old does on her Mars Bar isn’t class war. Get a grip.
Why did they leave to go to Henry's? Why would I gnash my teeth over parents fed up with the schooling system and doing something they can to improve their kids education? Fair play to them.
Oh it's easy to go from state to private mid year, that wasn't my point.
Maybe it's a sign that the state school wasn't doing their kids justice.Because they took funding with them and demanded places in the middle of the year. Terrible stuff.
No because I don’t believe in private education. I have got kids into state schools and I have worked in state schools where kids have come and gone mid year. My daughter’s primary half the class left in January to go to Henry’s for example, as they do every year. I missed your gnashing of teeth then.
Maybe it's a sign that the state school wasn't doing their kids justice.
They will still be paying their tax towards education like everybody else.
Oh then no worries. I’m really not sure what your point is. You’ve got some weird issue with schools, we’ve seen that in other threads. There’s literally nothing wrong with Earlsdon Primary FFS don’t be ridiculous. “Not doing their kids justice” get a grip.
Here’s the Ofsted while she was there. I’d compare to Henry’s but private schools don’t get inspected so I can’t. Wonder why. After all they’re doing so much justice
Why wouldn't I like the source? Always interested in getting more data.@chiefdave I found somewhere suggesting 11% (141) private schools could close. Bit shit for the state sector if 10 of this happened to be close to each other. You won't like the source so I won't bother.
Why wouldn't I like the source? Always interested in getting more data.
Over what time period are they suggesting 141 schools will close and is that a net figure? For reference the figures I can find for 2024 show 46 schools closing but 77 new private schools opening. That number of closures is actually well below the average of 80 a year.
None of my thoughts have been knowingly written by the Daily Mail copy team.Do you have any thoughts that weren’t written by the Daily Mail copy team?
I spent years in education, both theory and practice, and it’s my belief that private education as the UK does it is a bad idea. However I’m generally pro parental choice, it’s a really thorny area at the best of times, so I don’t support an outright ban, but asking them to pay the same tax my 9 year old does on her Mars Bar isn’t class war. Get a grip.
None of my thoughts have been knowingly written by the Daily Mail copy team.
Did you think the grammar system was bad?
I did. The evidence supports it.
I’ve gone both ways. I was a gifted kid and have the classic pushy parent thing of thinking my kids is better than everyone else’s and needs to stop being held back by all the scummers but it’s not true. And the evidence shows on a societal level pulling these kids out into some caste system is a Bad Thing and that’s before you get to educational attainment.
School is society in its rawest form and impacts far more than one kids exam results.
I have a basic principle which is that kids don’t choose their parents and talent isn’t distributed according to parental wealth.
Can't argue with your last sentence.I did. The evidence supports it.
I’ve gone both ways. I was a gifted kid and have the classic pushy parent thing of thinking my kids is better than everyone else’s and needs to stop being held back by all the scummers but it’s not true. And the evidence shows on a societal level pulling these kids out into some caste system is a Bad Thing and that’s before you get to educational attainment.
School is society in its rawest form and impacts far more than one kids exam results.
I have a basic principle which is that kids don’t choose their parents and talent isn’t distributed according to parental wealth.
Also can't argue with your last sentence eitherWhy's it a bad thing if state schools don't know what to do with them? I saw my daughter being massively held back as a perfect example.
I wish when I was at school I had that chance to be honest. Why do you take such an issue with somebody for example not happy with what is happening with their child at your kids school and whipping them out to go to Henry's.
How is talent distributed due to parent wealth? It just stinks of jealousy. If a parent is going to make massive sacrifices to send their kid to try and be the best they can be then what's the issue?
I also believe that school just isn't right for some kids and not the best environment for them.
Genuine question but is there any stats on how often this happens? How many kids start in a regular comp, or whatever they are called these days, and then get taken out and move to a private school?Why do you take such an issue with somebody for example not happy with what is happening with their child at your kids school and whipping them out to go to Henry's.
I have no idea what sort of organisation would have any interest in such stats. Probably only on a football forumGenuine question but is there any stats on how often this happens? How many kids start in a regular comp, or whatever they are called these days, and then get taken out and move to a private school?
Or is there any breakdown on the financial situation of the parents of kids in private schools.
Well we are experts on everything, surprised we don't get consulted before these changes are made.I have no idea what sort of organisation would have any interest in such stats. Probably only on a football forum
Genuine question but is there any stats on how often this happens? How many kids start in a regular comp, or whatever they are called these days, and then get taken out and move to a private school?
Or is there any breakdown on the financial situation of the parents of kids in private schools.
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