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Grendel

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,076
PVA said:
But not on the very thing we are discussing.

Or do they only have to pay tax on some things and pay no tax on other things because...they're rich?
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Did you go to a non selective comp?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,077
Nick said:
It's jealousy and I doubt many have even been in a normal private school
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I mean I did go to one but yes you crack on
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,078
Grendel said:
Did you go to a non selective comp?
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You've got this weird obsession with my background, my upbringing and my parents. Like fuck am I telling you any more.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,079
PVA said:
You've got this weird obsession with my background, my upbringing and my parents. Like fuck am I telling you any more.
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oh dear Tarquin - hypocrite alert.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,080
Grendel said:
oh dear Tarquin - hypocrite alert.
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I didn't go to private school.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,081
PVA said:
I didn't go to private school.
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Not actually what I asked
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,082
Grendel said:
Not actually what I asked
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And I told you I'm not giving you any more information on my background because you're a creepy weirdo.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,083
PVA said:
And I told you I'm not giving you any more information on my background because you're a creepy weirdo.
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No it’s because it will expose you as someone who’s benefited from a selective system. I openly admit mine all went as the comp was a dump. I could have having passed the 11 plus but no one else in my school did.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,084
1. Again, it's weird that you already know what school I went to
2. What difference does it make, it's not like I was campaigning for VAT on private school fees when I was 11 years old nor did I have any say in what school I went to
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,085
PVA said:
1. Again, it's weird that you already know what school I went to
2. What difference does it make, it's not like I was campaigning for VAT on private school fees when I was 11 years old nor did I have any say in what school I went to
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I find people.who benefit from selection the worst of the lot - including your mate Starmer of course
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,086
Of course you do.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,087
PVA said:
Of course you do.
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Well Starmer still had a freebie in a private school - most people in private schools aren’t rich - the education minister is a cretin and Starmer just a man who will take all that comes to him and play the socialist card when it suits
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,088
Grendel said:
Well Starmer still had a freebie in a private school - most people in private schools aren’t rich - the education minister is a cretin and Starmer just a man who will take all that comes to him and play the socialist card when it suits
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Just garbled rambling nonsense.

As usual you've got zero point other than some sort of dig at my upbringing.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,089
PVA said:



Just garbled rambling nonsense.

As usual you've got zero point other than some sort of dig at my upbringing.
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No my point is most people who send children to private school are not rich - a claim you made
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,090
This made me laugh, hello pot, meet kettle.
London Mayor Sadiq Khan has received a knighthood, one among a number of politicians named in the New Year Honours list.

Senior Conservatives labelled the three-time mayor's knighthood as a "reward for failure".

Also on the honours list are former Conservative West Midlands Mayor Andy Street and Nick Gibb, the former long-serving schools minister.
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PVA

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,091
Grendel said:
No my point is most people who send children to private school are not rich - a claim you made
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Oh right, that's why you started off by asking me what school I went to and mentioned your apparent point zero times then. Makes sense.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,092
chiefdave said:
This made me laugh, hello pot, meet kettle.
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Top WUM to be fair, it's got a lot of people raging.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,093
Grendel said:
No it’s because it will expose you as someone who’s benefited from a selective system. I openly admit mine all went as the comp was a dump. I could have having passed the 11 plus but no one else in my school did.
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Private schools are not meritocratic or academically selective to anywhere near the same extent as a grammar as you well know of course.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,094
Grendel said:
Well Starmer still had a freebie in a private school - most people in private schools aren’t rich - the education minister is a cretin and Starmer just a man who will take all that comes to him and play the socialist card when it suits
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I like Bridget Phillipson
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,095
Why do people get honours and knighthoods just for doing their jobs, even if they don't do it very well?
 
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Ian1779

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,096
Sky Blue Pete said:
I like Bridget Phillipson
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As someone who works in the profession I sadly think she’s full of shit.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,097
Ian1779 said:
As someone who works in the profession I sadly think she’s full of shit.
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Why’s that?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2024
  • #47,098
MalcSB said:
How much of the nations gold did Brown sell at a rock bottom price? Mate.
Labour ideology only really works if they have got enough of someone else’s family silver to sell to pay the bills.
once the rich get fed up with that, they will do what they did before and fuck off abroad, taking their tax liabilities with them and funding some other nations debt.
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The nation's gold how much of it were you entitled to? Honestly, the nation is not a household and does not need to sell bonds, gold or anything else to raise £.
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #47,099
fernandopartridge said:
The nation's gold how much of it were you entitled to? Honestly, the nation is not a household and does not need to sell bonds, gold or anything else to raise £.
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As the nation is not a household, tell the government to fuck off and leave my income for me manage and use then. Fuck collectivism Which seems like a one way street to me. Why should anyone else me entitled to any of my income?

The Nation‘s assets‘ could and should have been better managed and utilised for the nation’s and citizens benefit By governments of all political persuasions.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #47,100
I see energy prices are going to be heading in the opposite direction to those promised by the Labour government.

Fan fucking tastic. Conned and lied to again by a bunch of charlatans.

Energy price cap: Bills rise with warnings of more pain ahead

The new year starts with a 1% increase in domestic gas and electricity prices under Ofgem's price cap.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #47,101
Who pays for this shite?

let’s have loads of low emission zones and then fill them with firework smoke! Fucking genius.

New Year: Paddington Bear and spectacular fireworks in London

Onlookers line the Embankment in central London for a fireworks spectacular.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #47,102
MalcSB said:
As the nation is not a household, tell the government to fuck off and leave my income for me manage and use then. Fuck collectivism Which seems like a one way street to me. Why should anyone else me entitled to any of my income?

The Nation‘s assets‘ could and should have been better managed and utilised for the nation’s and citizens benefit By governments of all political persuasions.
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Always
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #47,103
MalcSB said:
I see energy prices are going to be heading in the opposite direction to those promised by the Labour government.

Fan fucking tastic. Conned and lied to again by a bunch of charlatans.

Energy price cap: Bills rise with warnings of more pain ahead

The new year starts with a 1% increase in domestic gas and electricity prices under Ofgem's price cap.
www.bbc.co.uk
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A couple of things.

You’ve been hyped up on a pledge dating back to 2022 where Labour said that if they were in government they’d have fixed the rate for the upcoming winter period into 2023 at an average of £1970.00. They didn’t make that pledge in their election manifesto so no one lied to you other than various Tories who have been doing the rounds claiming otherwise, specifically referring back to that pledge. You’re getting wound up over a lie. Don’t believe me? Here’s a conservative backed think tank telling you that the Tories are lying to you

Claims Labour pledged to freeze energy bills appears to refer to old policy – Full Fact

Labour pledged to keep energy bills frozen in response to rising prices in 2022. It did not make any such promise in its recent election manifesto.
fullfact.org


Secondly as the article you linked tells you the raise is 1%. Inflation is currently running at 2.6%. This is a below inflation rate and if you want to be pedantic about it that means in real terms it is a cut. Also worth pointing out that this keeps the price cap below half of what it peaked at under the tories.

So in essence, you are being conned and lied to by a bunch of charlatans. You just don’t seem to understand who the charlatans are in this case.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #47,104
Sky Blue Pete said:
Why’s that?
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Her claims around the reform of OFSTED for example are nothing but cosmetic. The one word overall ‘judgment’ doesn’t appear on a website as a header, but the same judgements by category are still there.
The culture of judgements and the practice of the organisation has not changed one bit - it’s still toxic as ever, just not as obvious to outsiders.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #47,105
MalcSB said:
get compensated for PPI misspelling
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Pip?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #47,106
How encouraging

Starmer hails 'year of change' as he delivers first New Year message as prime minister, with plan for 'more cash in your pocket' in 2025

Almost six months into the Labour leader's time in Downing Street, the prime minister is battling criticisms of his party's management of the economy and the direction he is taking the country.
news.sky.com
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #47,107
skybluetony176 said:
A couple of things.

You’ve been hyped up on a pledge dating back to 2022 where Labour said that if they were in government they’d have fixed the rate for the upcoming winter period into 2023 at an average of £1970.00. They didn’t make that pledge in their election manifesto so no one lied to you other than various Tories who have been doing the rounds claiming otherwise, specifically referring back to that pledge. You’re getting wound up over a lie. Don’t believe me? Here’s a conservative backed think tank telling you that the Tories are lying to you

Claims Labour pledged to freeze energy bills appears to refer to old policy – Full Fact

Labour pledged to keep energy bills frozen in response to rising prices in 2022. It did not make any such promise in its recent election manifesto.
fullfact.org


Secondly as the article you linked tells you the raise is 1%. Inflation is currently running at 2.6%. This is a below inflation rate and if you want to be pedantic about it that means in real terms it is a cut. Also worth pointing out that this keeps the price cap below half of what it peaked at under the tories.

So in essence, you are being conned and lied to by a bunch of charlatans. You just don’t seem to understand who the charlatans are in this case.
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Only a cut if real terms pay rises are greater than 1% across the board.

Maybe the Labour Party should have been explicit about the expiry of the pledge. When I have some time I will do some more research but I’m sure I’ve seen reference to it more recently than 2022. But then, its like a lot of what they said pre election, all to protect the mythical “Ming vase”.
It is so easy, and so empty, to tell the world what you would do when you don’t have the power to actually do it. So misleading not to clearly admit that.

I think this makes the chicanery even more obvious. Duplicitous Cunts the lot of them.

Government defeats bid to make GB Energy prioritise cutting bills by £300

The Conservatives said it tabled the amendments in the Commons to ensure Labour delivers on its election promises.
www.independent.co.uk
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #47,108
Grendel said:
How encouraging

Starmer hails 'year of change' as he delivers first New Year message as prime minister, with plan for 'more cash in your pocket' in 2025

Almost six months into the Labour leader's time in Downing Street, the prime minister is battling criticisms of his party's management of the economy and the direction he is taking the country.
news.sky.com
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Hoorah.

What a fucking twat.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #47,109
SBT said:
Pip?
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Payment Protection Insurance mis selling, not Pip misspelling.

@shmmeee suggesting that people can’t expect to be compensated years after the event. Selective bollocks, as usual.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #47,110
skybluetony176 said:
This whole “it’s about the kids” line doesn’t add up. The money raised from the VAT on private education has been pledged to go directly into state education. There’s just over 10 million children in state education, there’s about 500k in private (around 6 percent of who are foreign). If it’s about “the kid’s” then surely you should support this policy. An extra estimated £1.5 billion into state education on 10 million children vs tax breaks for the parents of 500k in private education some of who aren’t even UK citizens so tax breaks to foreigners.
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Hold on - aren’t about 50% of private students foreign?
 
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