Whether you think it's right or not you certainly can't argue that people leaving the country aren't aware of it. I briefly looked into the possibility of being able to move abroad if I ever get to retire, every article you look at flags this issue up very clearly.When you leave the UK you give up lots of benefits, this is one of them. You know that's the case, so you make your decision.
Because they have paid NI for 40 plus years, unlike some who claim benefits.
Me either really, the individual is not in control of the government of the place where they live.I know reciprocity is the enabling factor, I really don’t understand why that should be.
Why should people who arrive illegally in the UK receive benefits having never contributed a halfpenny?
You wouldn't pay a pension at all on that basis, but given that they do, there is no real reason why they don't uprate similar to other pensioners.So? The UK pension is a benefit for people of pension age in the UK, if you aren’t in the UK you don’t get the benefits for UK people. If I move to another country and lose my job can I claim JSA?
That’s not a justification of the rule.
Thankfully your mate Kier is doing fuck all about kids in poverty or people on the streets, as some of my previous posts demonstrateHow do you justify kids living in poverty? Or people living on the streets?
This is more justifiable than lots of goings on in this country.
So why do they pay the pension at all, the approach is totally illogical.So? The UK pension is a benefit for people of pension age in the UK, if you aren’t in the UK you don’t get the benefits for UK people. If I move to another country and lose my job can I claim JSA?
Those things are awful and definitely not justifiable when illegal arrivals in this country are being put up in hotels at taxpayer expense.How do you justify kids living in poverty? Or people living on the streets?
This is more justifiable than lots of goings on in this country.
They’re no longer part of the United Kingdom is my rationale and sorry for not answering I hate it when people do thatI have no idea what the rationale was. I was a baby at the time.
It feels wrong to me because these people have made full qualifying contributions to the system.
You are avoiding answering the question I posed to you by asking another question.
So, to go back to my question to you. On what basis do you think it probably makes sense?
So why continue to pay anything then, it’s just not logical.They’re no longer part of the United Kingdom is my rationale and sorry for not answering I hate it when people do that
You wouldn't pay a pension at all on that basis, but given that they do, there is no real reason why they don't uprate similar to other pensioners.
Would you have been paying Class 1 NI contributions for the previous 2 - 3 years in that job?So? The UK pension is a benefit for people of pension age in the UK, if you aren’t in the UK you don’t get the benefits for UK people. If I move to another country and lose my job can I claim JSA?
I bet that came as a huge surpriseMy main takeaway from that is that you subscribe to the Daily Mail
Are they telling them to pretend to be disabledRise of 'sickfluencers' helping the jobless to maximise benefits
I went online and came across so-called 'sickfluencers', who help their millions of followers on YouTube and TikTok to maximise their benefits. Some charge £950 for a personal session.www.dailymail.co.uk
I really hope all these benefit cheats can be found, prosecuted and jailed,
They are telling them to say they are distressed and suicidal.Are they telling them to pretend to be disabled
Still pales into insignificance when you look at tax avoidance and evasion but just not right is it which the daily mail wants everyone to focus on so that they won’t focus on the bigger stuffThey are telling them to say they are distressed and suicidal.
I was sitting here mulling things over, and I have realised that a combination of 5 months Labour government and 5 months exposure to all the socialists on here has driven me further and further to the right. Well done chaps!
You against better investment in schools then?I was sitting here mulling things over, and I have realised that a combination of 5 months Labour government and 5 months exposure to all the socialists on here has driven me further and further to the right. Well done chaps!
Would you have been paying Class 1 NI contributions for the previous 2 - 3 years in that job?
Tax evasion is illegal, tax avoidance may not be.Still pales into insignificance when you look at tax avoidance and evasion but just not right is it which the daily mail wants everyone to focus on so that they won’t focus on the bigger stuff
Well there will be the obligatory 2 goal start given to Millwall, and then it all depends on whether the strikers are more clinical with their finishing. Another 2-2 draw wouldn’t surprise me.
NI contributions do entitle you to something - the state pension and, it would appear, JSA.Maybe. Maybe I just moved.
NI contributions are just tax. They aren’t hypothecated. They don’t entitle you to anything really. Your benefits are paid by the taxes of those working.
The people that voted Labour on here are not necessarily socialistsI was sitting here mulling things over, and I have realised that a combination of 5 months Labour government and 5 months exposure to all the socialists on here has driven me further and further to the right. Well done chaps!
I agree with you but it's not the official message, is it? The message is that you are entitled to a state pension subject to national insurance contributions.Maybe. Maybe I just moved.
NI contributions are just tax. They aren’t hypothecated. They don’t entitle you to anything really. Your benefits are paid by the taxes of those working.
Forgive me for the error. Are they communists?The people that voted Labour on here are not necessarily socialists
Labour is not a communist party, is it.Forgive me for the error. Are they communists?
There will have to be more investment in schools to accommodate those no longer in private education.You against better investment in schools then?
Well, I apparently mistakenly thought it and its supporters were socialist . You were saying the people on here who voted for Labour are not necessarily socialists, I am wondering what they are.Labour is not a communist party, is it.
NI contributions do entitle you to something - the state pension and, it would appear, JSA.
I understand they aren’t hypothecated and where today’s benefits come from.
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