If only people were this willing to hold the government to account for the last 13 years.
He had better get a move on then. One of the things about getting older is that time passes by so fast. The next 4 years will be gone in a flash. Immigration will not have gone down, no growth, missed housing targets, hugely increased energy bills - and no Tories to blame.
If only people were this willing to hold the government to account for the last 13 years.
He needs to learn from Trump winning that this argument will not win the election even if it’s true.They’re mostly pissing off Tory voters at the moment TBF. They’re just not also making their voters happy. Starmer slow boring theory is that after five years people will look up and see immigration down, growth up, etc. There’s not much in terms of public opinion that’s going to sway him from that yet.
MadnessStarmer - “we aren’t going to tell people how to live their lives.”
Milliband - oh yes, we are.
Plans to introduce 'boiler tax' for manufacturers slammed
The Energy Secretary has signed off on a proposal to impose swingeing taxes on boiler manufacturers if they fail to meet his targets for installing heat pumps.www.dailymail.co.uk
Left wing middle class elite - “we have failed to win the argument, how can we enforce our unrealistic desires”Madness
To be clear, I’m laughing at this post, not with itLeft wing middle class elite - “we have failed to win the argument, how can we enforce our unrealistic desires”
”Hit the bastard plebs in the pocket - again and again until they give up”
You may be laughing now ………………..To be clear, I’m laughing at this post, not with it
Oh I’m not, this government is doing fuck all for me and my wife.You may be laughing now ………………..
Starmer - “we aren’t going to tell people how to live their lives.”
Milliband - oh yes, we are.
Plans to introduce 'boiler tax' for manufacturers slammed
The Energy Secretary has signed off on a proposal to impose swingeing taxes on boiler manufacturers if they fail to meet his targets for installing heat pumps.www.dailymail.co.uk
Left wing middle class elite - “we have failed to win the argument, how can we enforce our unrealistic desires”
”Hit the bastard plebs in the pocket - again and again until they give up”
I think it is, yes. If the argument about heat pumps had been won it would be unnecessary.Tax is telling people how to live their life now?
I think it is, yes. If the argument about heat pumps had been won it would be unnecessary.
Taxes can often be a means to direct people to live their lives in a certain way, eg tobacco duty and the £2 to come on a bottle of vape liquid. When I vaped I was buying them from onepoundliquid. Not hard to work out that the price will triple and threepoundliquidbuttwopounisagovernmentripoff isn’t quite as catchy.
They will be taxing meat at some point.
In the meantime, let’s cosy up to climate change drivers China to get trade benefits.
I’m not convinced that the UK should be leading the way on this.Genuine question from this: do you think climate change is a hoax?
I have no idea what that means,It’s also a way of capturing externalities.
I have no idea what that means,
I’m not convinced that the UK should be leading the way on this.
Im certainly not convinced that a system requiring taking heat out of cold air is going to prove all that effective, especially when the power cuts start. It is very expensive to run.
And then no one will be able to charge their cars to get to work!
Heat pumps are effective. Our problem IMO is not allowing air con (a two way heat pump) as part of it, I think if we did people would see more benefits. Our other problem is my house for example has less insulation than an instagram model so heat pump just wouldn’t work until that could be fixed. I imagine I’m more common than not in that respect.
The power cuts won’t start, you’ve been reading too much right wing press. We should be building new nuclear though.
Ultimately the energy transition is happening. British homes are uniquely poorly insulated and heated.
If somebody wants to come and insulate my home and put the latest tech in to keep me warm / cool for free then I am all for it.
I've been trying for nearly 3 years to get a smart meter so I won't hold much hope!
No same. And I don’t qualify for shit.
To be clear you aren’t paying this rumoured tax, it’s on boiler companies who fail to sell enough heat pumps.
As you alluded too, heat pumps do not work for the majority of homes without major re work to the property.
Yeah and any targets should take that into account. With respect I’m not sure we’re ever going to see eye to eye on this as you seem to think AA batteries are a woke plot.
What the fuck are you going on about?
Any electrification topic comes up and you pop up moaning about it.
Basic insulation on my house would be thousands, no way I can afford that. Apparently you used to be able to get it paid for with a grant but obviously that's been stopped. Upshot is whatever heating solution I put in my house its going to be massively inefficient if the heat just goes straight out the house.If somebody wants to come and insulate my home and put the latest tech in to keep me warm / cool for free then I am all for it.
I've been trying for nearly 3 years to get a smart meter so I won't hold much hope!
"Should" is such a big but empty word. I far prefer "must".Yeah and any targets should take that into account. With respect I’m not sure we’re ever going to see eye to eye on this as you seem to think AA batteries are a woke plot.
Theoretically heat pumps are more efficient than boilers, producing something like 3.5 times as much heat energy as the electrical energy used to do so. Problem is electricity costs 4 times as much as gas (on my tariff) and so the heating is higher cost. So energy efficient but not cost effective.Basic insulation on my house would be thousands, no way I can afford that. Apparently you used to be able to get it paid for with a grant but obviously that's been stopped. Upshot is whatever heating solution I put in my house its going to be massively inefficient if the heat just goes straight out the house.
So the consumer want face increased costs?No same. And I don’t qualify for shit.
To be clear you aren’t paying this rumoured tax, it’s on boiler companies who fail to sell enough heat pumps.
You are right, it isn't nudge theory. It is a full-blown shove in the back.The costs of something aren’t always captured in its sale price. Some things have external negative impacts (climate change pollution, increased healthcare costs etc) so we tax them to pay for those. Same argument as tax on fags and alcohol cos you have to pay for the NHS.
The argument for a climate tax isn’t nudge theory, it’s that people who emit carbon don’t pay the price to fix that at source.
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