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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,941
Ian1779 said:
He admitted contempt of court after smearing a Syrian refugee and then not letting it go.
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He was also documenting government cover ups, obviously this didn't go down well with Starmer
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,942
Gynnsthetonic said:
I see Tommy Robinson been imprisoned in Belmarsh whilst we still await the outcome of the 2 Pakistani guys who beat up the police and the Labour councillor who wanted his supporters to go round slashing throats.
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We can only hope it’s a lengthy stay.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,943
Ring Of Steel said:
We can only hope it’s a lengthy stay.
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Why?
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,944
Gynnsthetonic said:
Why?
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Because in my view he is a disgusting human being who grifts by inciting hatred and spewing poison. I have no idea what he did or what he’s up for- no doubt he’ll say it’s a fitup for being a “patriot”, but whatever it is he’s done I personally hope it attracts a nice long sentence.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,945
Ring Of Steel said:
Because in my view he is a disgusting human being who grifts by inciting hatred and spewing poison. I have no idea what he did or what he’s up for- no doubt he’ll say it’s a fitup for being a “patriot”, but whatever it is he’s done I personally hope it attracts a nice long sentence.
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Why do you want someone to have a long sentence when you don't even know what he did or what he's up for
 
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MalcSB

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,946
Ring Of Steel said:
Because in my view he is a disgusting human being who grifts by inciting hatred and spewing poison. I have no idea what he did or what he’s up for- no doubt he’ll say it’s a fitup for being a “patriot”, but whatever it is he’s done I personally hope it attracts a nice long sentence.
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I'm sure you will be disappointed, sentenced to 18 months out in 9.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,947
Ring Of Steel said:
Because in my view he is a disgusting human being who grifts by inciting hatred and spewing poison. I have no idea what he did or what he’s up for- no doubt he’ll say it’s a fitup for being a “patriot”, but whatever it is he’s done I personally hope it attracts a nice long sentence.
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This could actually be a quote by Donald J Trump
 

MalcSB

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,948
Grendel said:
This could actually be a quote by Donald J Trump
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Or about him.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,949
Grendel said:
This could actually be a quote by Donald J Trump
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Except it’s not, it’s a quote by me. I don’t like the man, or what he stands for, and that’s that. Don’t know what he did and don’t care, but at least we now have a few months without his horrible poison being disseminated around the place.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,950
Ring Of Steel said:
Except it’s not, it’s a quote by me. I don’t like the man, or what he stands for, and that’s that. Don’t know what he did and don’t care, but at least we now have a few months without his horrible poison being disseminated around the place.
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So you'd rather have terrorists and major criminals walking freely and have people imprisoned for using freedom of speech
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,951
Ring Of Steel said:
Except it’s not, it’s a quote by me. I don’t like the man, or what he stands for, and that’s that. Don’t know what he did and don’t care, but at least we now have a few months without his horrible poison being disseminated around the place.
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The point is you’ve no idea why he’s been arrested - but he’s a very very bad man so it’s clearly ok
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,952
Grendel said:
The point is you’ve no idea why he’s been arrested - but he’s a very very bad man so it’s clearly ok
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No, the point is that the man is an all out racist who spreads lies and does everything he can to incite hatred, all while mocking the very people (who are mostly very dense) that he claims to ‘represent’ by living abroad and taking large sums of money from them. I find him a contemptible individual. And whatever he did he’s been sent down for- for me that’s great news.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,953
Gynnsthetonic said:
So you'd rather have terrorists and major criminals walking freely and have people imprisoned for using freedom of speech
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what are you on about?
 

Como

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #44,954

‘Cock-up with the comms’: how Labour announced five non-existent freeports

Erroneous announcement traced back to briefing note prepared by Treasury officals, ahead of PM’s Samoa trip
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Another one
 

Lamps

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  • Oct 29, 2024
  • #44,955
Gynnsthetonic said:
So you'd rather have terrorists and major criminals walking freely and have people imprisoned for using freedom of speech
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It wasn't freedom of speech. It was contempt of court. He had to pay £100,000 damages for making false accusations against someone. He got warned not to repeat the false accusations. He then started to repeat the false accusations.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 29, 2024
  • #44,956
Gynnsthetonic said:
So you'd rather have terrorists and major criminals walking freely and have people imprisoned for using freedom of speech
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Why not arrest all the criminals?

And there’s not a freedom of speech law on the planet that allows you to repeatedly spread false information after explicitly being told not to by a judge.

I think you’ve gone off the deep end if you’re caping for this absolute coked up chancer mate. You’re allowed to hate brown people without making a random Luton chav a millionaire.
 
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rob9872

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  • Oct 29, 2024
  • #44,957
I've not been keeping up with the odds on USA Election. Seen the news of course and Kamala seems pretty popular. Trump as expected remains popular with his supporters, but I thought it was going to be close, slightly leaning in Kamala's favour, but Trump currently 1/2 favourite. That's pretty strong and the bookies are usually pretty much right.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,958
rob9872 said:
I've not been keeping up with the odds on USA Election. Seen the news of course and Kamala seems pretty popular. Trump as expected remains popular with his supporters, but I thought it was going to be close, slightly leaning in Kamala's favour, but Trump currently 1/2 favourite. That's pretty strong and the bookies are usually pretty much right.
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Far more people bet on Trump than visa versa. Not sure the bookies know shit tbh mate. How could they?
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,959
shmmeee said:
Far more people bet on Trump than visa versa. Not sure the bookies know shit tbh mate. How could they?
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Because it’s all fixed, do you not go on twitter? All the answers are there
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,960
chiefdave said:
Because it’s all fixed, do you not go on twitter? All the answers are there
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Tell you what the propaganda levels on Twitter are through the roof. Insane to watch. US is absolutely fucked as a democracy. Kinda sad to see really.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,961
rob9872 said:
I've not been keeping up with the odds on USA Election. Seen the news of course and Kamala seems pretty popular. Trump as expected remains popular with his supporters, but I thought it was going to be close, slightly leaning in Kamala's favour, but Trump currently 1/2 favourite. That's pretty strong and the bookies are usually pretty much right.
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Harris will definitely win the popular vote but Trump is marginally ahead in the scenarios they run in swing states and the big money is on him. So to protect themselves he will be clear favourite.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,962
fernandopartridge said:
Even if you believe in the myth of "paying into the system" all of your life, you haven't paid for the future publicly funded costs of your retirement years, you're paying for current retirees.
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Boomers need to accept the world they built isn’t sustainable. Cars for everyone. Thirty years of retirement health and social care on the tax payer, but refuse to let any taxes ever rise. You can do that shit if you’re American with limitless land and economic power. Since the empire we aren’t that.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,963
Sunak's already on the beach. Asking about walking trails and cricket at PMQs
 

Como

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,964
Anyone who votes for Trump is garbage
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,965
Government talks about growth yet the forecasts are abysmal, allowing them to bake in austerity forever which continues the abysmal growth which bakes in austerity which continues....

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,966
fernandopartridge said:
Government talks about growth yet the forecasts are abysmal, allowing them to bake in austerity forever which continues the abysmal growth which bakes in austerity which continues....
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Congratulations on making post 45,000. I fear for the sanity of anyone who has read them all!
 
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MalcSB

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,967
shmmeee said:
Boomers need to accept the world they built isn’t sustainable. Cars for everyone. Thirty years of retirement health and social care on the tax payer, but refuse to let any taxes ever rise. You can do that shit if you’re American with limitless land and economic power. Since the empire we aren’t that.
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Why did we bother?
 

MalcSB

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,968
What are the odds of a pint at the CBS being 1p cheaper henceforth - or anywhere else for that matter?

Capitalist bastard landlords everywhere will pocket It
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,969
Is that the budget everyone was thinking that would end the world? If they can make £44bil out of that, fair play.
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,970
shmmeee said:
Boomers need to accept the world they built isn’t sustainable. Cars for everyone. Thirty years of retirement health and social care on the tax payer, but refuse to let any taxes ever rise. You can do that shit if you’re American with limitless land and economic power. Since the empire we aren’t that.
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There should be an opt out on paying for certain things.

No kids - you arent paying for education

Let's face it, while we are saying OAPs cant think to rely on their care from the tax payer we are sending billions to Ukraine and billions on hotels for asylum seekers.

It's "fuck you, I know you have worked hard all of your life and saved and paid tax but no more."

Where's the motivation for people to do well?
 
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rob9872

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,971
Nick said:
There should be an opt out on paying for certain things.

No kids - you arent paying for education

etc etc.
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But then you only pay whist they attend so doesn't that basically mean private school only?

The pot has to come from somewhere, equally you could argue I've not been in hospital so why should I pay for the NHS but then again that means private healthcare, I dont have a car etc etc. It can't really work for the masses.
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,972
rob9872 said:
But then you only pay whist they attend so doesn't that basically mean private school only?

The pot has to come from somewhere, equally you could argue I've not been in hospital so why should I pay for the NHS but then again that means private healthcare, I dont have a car etc etc. It can't really work for the masses.
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I was just saying it in response to that about tax payers not helping pensioners.

If I am told to work hard, pay into my pension, pay my taxes etc and when I get to 65 it's "Oh nah you're going to need to work 10 more years, the state aren't helping you and if you have paid off your mortgage and die your daughter is going to get hammered with tax on the house" doesn't really sound as good?

Some people really seem to have issue with the older generation.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,973
rob9872 said:
But then you only pay whist they attend so doesn't that basically mean private school only?

The pot has to come from somewhere, equally you could argue I've not been in hospital so why should I pay for the NHS but then again that means private healthcare, I dont have a car etc etc. It can't really work for the masses.
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Well the thing is we were all children once?
 

Nick

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,974
The education is shit for a lot of reasons but that's probably another discussion.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #44,975
Nick said:
I was just saying it in response to that about tax payers not helping pensioners.

If I am told to work hard, pay into my pension, pay my taxes etc and when I get to 65 it's "Oh nah you're going to need to work 10 more years, the state aren't helping you and if you have paid off your mortgage and die your daughter is going to get hammered with tax on the house" doesn't really sound as good?

Some people really seem to have issue with the older generation.
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That’s pretty much how I feel about it.
 
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