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Well as you well know Malcolm I’ve argued in favour of universal WFP for that very reason. No double standards on it from me.
Well as you well know Malcolm I’ve argued in favour of universal WFP for that very reason. No double standards on it from me.That’s a real double standard I’m afraid to the point of hypocrisy.
Universal winter fuel payments guarantees that nobody falls through the cracks
Fair enough, but others will have the same view about these uncosted breakfasts whilst arguing that paper millionaires shouldn't get winter fuel payments. And it no doubt will be the attitude of this government.Well as you well know Malcolm I’ve argued in favour of universal WFP for that very reason. No double standards on it from me.
Starmer: And as you go forth today remember always your duty is clear: to build and maintain those robotsRobots. Good British robots.
I think the way to guarantee that is through the Council tax banding tbh which hopefully will hold some sway in the budget?That’s a real double standard I’m afraid to the point of hypocrisy. Are all children going to get free school meals?
Universal winter fuel payments guarantees that nobody falls through the cracks
Aren’t Starmer and Reeves actually robots themselves. They have all the associated charisma and oratory skills.Starmer: And as you go forth today remember always your duty is clear: to build and maintain those robots
How is council tax banding going to help. I’ve seen nothing suggesting that who eligibility linked to banding is seriously on the cardsI think the way to guarantee that is through the Council tax banding tbh which hopefully will hold some sway in the budget?
Where has charisma got us or left us,?Aren’t Starmer and Reeves actually robots themselves. They have all the associated charisma and oratory skills.
Need to be able to win people over Wingy and to convince them that your plans are worth backing. It’s a leadership thing.Where has charisma got us or left us,?
Ludicrous suggestion from a biased motorists perspective. Education boosts the country's economy as does health by keeping people at work. Thats why its primsrily free. Whilst keeping streets moving for cars, public transport, cycling and walking is also good for economy, all forms of motor vehicles use impacts on health and environment which is why it's quite rightly taxed! Like ciggies and booze it's harmful and has some negative impacts on economy. We need higher taxes on shitty cheap food with no nutritional value and less on home grown healthy food.So how isn't it targeting normal people when they are already paying 50 odd pence per litre of fuel?
Maybe people with more kids can start paying more tax to cover their education. People who go to the doctors more pay more for that?
Just reading Pete's posts thinking he's lost it a bitThink you need some time off Twitter!
In terms of unemployed, I am taking your 1% of 4.2 % to act7ally be equal to 25% of the unemployed, say 350,000.
In terms of long term sickness, the biggest component and biggest increase is in depression/ anxiety. Apropos of nothing, we apparently need trigger warnings before Midsomer Murders.
There are more than 9 million people aged 16 to 64 defined as economically inactive, I.e. neither working nor looking for work.
If just 4% of these numbers could be encourage/ supported to return to work that would make a significant difference. Not entirely undoable given the comparisons below.
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PS did Churchill not have charisma and oratory skills?Where has charisma got us or left us,?
Fair enough, but others will have the same view about these uncosted breakfasts whilst arguing that paper millionaires shouldn't get winter fuel payments. And it no doubt will be the attitude of this government.
Just reading Pete's posts thinking he's lost it a bit
Definitely been led down a social media rabbit hole.
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Could you point me to the costings please. Won’t the breakfast clubs mean kids hang out together in a big building where bullying is rife for even longer?Very few children are millionaires. And pensioners don’t all hand out with each other in a big building where bullying is rife and there are long lasting social impacts.
Also universal WFP costs about 60% more than universal FSM.
Could you point me to the costings please.
What was his overall performance like though, sure I read somewhere that he was quite a devious sort, not denying his skills but have seen doubts that he was whiter than white though,just some independent writing and no Idea if it's accurate or not?PS did Churchill not have charisma and oratory skills?
More recently we have thatcher,disaster for me but obviously not for many?What was his overall performance like though, sure I read somewhere that he was quite a devious sort, not denying his skills but have seen doubts that he was whiter than white though,just some independent writing and no Idea if it's accurate or not?
PS did Churchill not have charisma and oratory skills?
What was his overall performance like though, sure I read somewhere that he was quite a devious sort, not denying his skills but have seen doubts that he was whiter than white though,just some independent writing and no Idea if it's accurate or not?
More reading than social mediaJust reading Pete's posts thinking he's lost it a bit
Definitely been led down a social media rabbit hole.
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What objection could you have to ensuring that all children have access to nutritious breakfast and lunch at school?Could you point me to the costings please. Won’t the breakfast clubs mean kids hang out together in a big building where bullying is rife for even longer?
It’s a good pointWhat objection could you have to ensuring that all children have access to nutritious breakfast and lunch at school?
Depression and anxiety are very real illnesses, I can tell you that from personal experience. To belittle it is very ignorant. It’s not even the biggest cause of long term sickness. The main reason is a lack of treatment for preventable illnesses. The tories wrecking the NHS plays a big part in that. There’s no quick fix to that as getting waiting lists back down to the numbers they were when the Tories entered government is probably going to take the same 14 years it took them to get as bad as they are. And before anyone says COVID stop talking bollocks. Firstly waiting lists are pretty much bang on trend for where they would have been even without COVID. Secondly it was a worldwide pandemic, we didn’t suffer it in isolation and as Malcs graph shows there’s another issue in the UK with economic inactivity. Get the NHS fit for purpose and those numbers will drop.In terms of unemployed, I am taking your 1% of 4.2 % to act7ally be equal to 25% of the unemployed, say 350,000.
In terms of long term sickness, the biggest component and biggest increase is in depression/ anxiety. Apropos of nothing, we apparently need trigger warnings before Midsomer Murders.
There are more than 9 million people aged 16 to 64 defined as economically inactive, I.e. neither working nor looking for work.
If just 4% of these numbers could be encourage/ supported to return to work that would make a significant difference. Not entirely undoable given the comparisons below.
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In terms of unemployed, I am taking your 1% of 4.2 % to act7ally be equal to 25% of the unemployed, say 350,000.
In terms of long term sickness, the biggest component and biggest increase is in depression/ anxiety. Apropos of nothing, we apparently need trigger warnings before Midsomer Murders.
There are more than 9 million people aged 16 to 64 defined as economically inactive, I.e. neither working nor looking for work.
If just 4% of these numbers could be encourage/ supported to return to work that would make a significant difference. Not entirely undoable given the comparisons below.
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This kind of reads like you don't believe depression / anxiety to be a real thing which I can assure you is definitely not the case. Maybe we need to start looking at why we seem to have more people suffering with depression, anxiety and stress than our European neighbours. It's not getting any better soon, read a report recently that the figures in young people in the UK are off the scale.In terms of long term sickness, the biggest component and biggest increase is in depression/ anxiety. Apropos of nothing, we apparently need trigger warnings before Midsomer Murders.
Get a career change would be my advice,go be a councillor or a lifestyle coach or whatever mate!This kind of reads like you don't believe depression / anxiety to be a real thing which I can assure you is definitely not the case. Maybe we need to start looking at why we seem to have more people suffering with depression, anxiety and stress than our European neighbours. It's not getting any better soon, read a report recently that the figures in young people in the UK are off the scale.
Not sure that a life 'on the sick' is quite how you are imagining it. I have ongoing health issues, all likely traced back to stress, even ended up in the hospital recently not entirely sure I was coming back out. The healthiest I have been in years was when I was off work during covid. The doctor has suggested being signed off work but in my case the problem would likely recur as soon as I returned to work and looking at what I'd be entitled to if I was on long term sick it would be a huge struggle to survive.
Was in Denmark recently, you only have to spend a couple of hours walking around to be able to visibly see its a far healthier and happier nation. We've taken a wrong turn somewhere and at the moment we don't even seem to know we've done it let alone have any desire to fix it.
Done a lot of thinking about that but finding something else that pays the bills isn't easy, especially with a big mortgage hike coming in a few months.Get a career change would be my advice,go be a councillor or a lifestyle coach or whatever mate!
This kind of reads like you don't believe depression / anxiety to be a real thing which I can assure you is definitely not the case. Maybe we need to start looking at why we seem to have more people suffering with depression, anxiety and stress than our European neighbours. It's not getting any better soon, read a report recently that the figures in young people in the UK are off the scale.
Not sure that a life 'on the sick' is quite how you are imagining it. I have ongoing health issues, all likely traced back to stress, even ended up in the hospital recently not entirely sure I was coming back out. The healthiest I have been in years was when I was off work during covid. The doctor has suggested being signed off work but in my case the problem would likely recur as soon as I returned to work and looking at what I'd be entitled to if I was on long term sick it would be a huge struggle to survive.
Was in Denmark recently, you only have to spend a couple of hours walking around to be able to visibly see its a far healthier and happier nation. We've taken a wrong turn somewhere and at the moment we don't even seem to know we've done it let alone have any desire to fix it.
In the case of train's anything to do with the suggestion of nationalisation?Done a lot of thinking about that but finding something else that pays the bills isn't easy, especially with a big mortgage hike coming in a few months.
The weird thing is you see articles about certain careers and how there's a huge shortage of staff and think maybe that would be better then you look into it and its near impossible to get into an entry level position. Train driving is one example, services being cancelled left right and centre because of driver shortages but it's pretty rare to find any of the operating companies offering trainee places. Not sure many people can spend a couple of years and thousands of pounds getting themselves trained!
It’s the principle that millionaires children would qualify when they could, according to some on here, surely afford to pay for it themselves. And isn’t yet another state intervention abrogating parents of their responibility?What objection could you have to ensuring that all children have access to nutritious breakfast and lunch at school?
There is that,, but then we're either looking at poorly brought up and provided for kids, otherwise get there parents a rise,or maybe prioritise feeding your kids before buying them a mobile phone?It’s the principle that millionaires children would qualify when they could, according to some on here, surely afford to pay for it themselves. And isn’t yet another state intervention abrogating parents of their responibility?
How you have the nerve to complain of a generational divide and ageism on here while arguing against food for children I do not know.It’s the principle that millionaires children would qualify when they could, according to some on here, surely afford to pay for it themselves. And isn’t yet another state intervention abrogating parents of their responibility?
we're either looking at poorly brought up and provided for kids
It’s a bit chicken and egg, don’t you think?How you have the nerve to complain of a generational divide and ageism on here while arguing against food for children I do not know.
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