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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 20, 2024
  • #41,791
CCFCSteve said:
Sorry if I missed someone else posting this.

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Sanjeev bhaskar who wrote goodness gracious me gets it in the neck for suella as if his characters directly led to her being how she is
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2024
  • #41,792
Sky Blue Pete said:
Sanjeev bhaskar who wrote goodness gracious me gets it in the neck for suella as if his characters directly led to her being how she is
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??
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2024
  • #41,793
CCFCSteve said:
Sorry if I missed someone else posting this.

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Apparently she has no backing for the Tory leadership so she’s going of in a sulk.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 20, 2024
  • #41,794
shmmeee said:
??
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The Indian families who out english the English by being more racist than them
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2024
  • #41,795
Sky Blue Pete said:
The Indian families who out english the English by being more racist than them
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Indians in India can be extremely racist and very anti Muslim.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jul 20, 2024
  • #41,796
Grendel said:
Indians in India can be extremely racist and very anti Muslim.
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if you follow anything related to cricket on twitter its not long before you see loads of tweets from Indians that are very openly racist, and that's tame compared to their attitude towards muslims.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 20, 2024
  • #41,797
Can anyone help?
Lee and his mates have been on the lash and managed to misplace their country

 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 20, 2024
  • #41,798
clint van damme said:
Can anyone help?
Lee and his mates have been on the lash and managed to misplace their country

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Wonder if he copped off with big Sheila?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,799
From the US, but very interesting anyway. Giving a universal basic income to homeless people ended up saving money.

It does baffle me in countries like ours where we’ve long given up on not accepting homelessness.

Denver gave people experiencing homelessness $1,000 a month. A year later, nearly half of participants said they had housing.

Participants in Denver's basic-income program reported having more-secure housing, though results were similar in the trial and control groups.
www.businessinsider.com
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,800
Brighton Sky Blue said:
From the US, but very interesting anyway. Giving a universal basic income to homeless people ended up saving money.

It does baffle me in countries like ours where we’ve long given up on not accepting homelessness.

Denver gave people experiencing homelessness $1,000 a month. A year later, nearly half of participants said they had housing.

Participants in Denver's basic-income program reported having more-secure housing, though results were similar in the trial and control groups.
www.businessinsider.com
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“the pilot's organizers did not identify major differences in outcomes between the test groups and the control group. This suggests that giving more money to participants didn't significantly improve their outcomes after 10 months”

Im a big fan of UBI but there’s very little evidence of its efficacy.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,801
Brighton Sky Blue said:
From the US, but very interesting anyway. Giving a universal basic income to homeless people ended up saving money.

It does baffle me in countries like ours where we’ve long given up on not accepting homelessness.

Denver gave people experiencing homelessness $1,000 a month. A year later, nearly half of participants said they had housing.

Participants in Denver's basic-income program reported having more-secure housing, though results were similar in the trial and control groups.
www.businessinsider.com
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A UBI will just whack prices up because everyone gets it.

If you're suggesting just giving it to homeless people then it's not universal.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,802
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
A UBI will just whack prices up because everyone gets it.

If you're suggesting just giving it to homeless people then it's not universal.
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If you do it as a negative income tax it’s not given equally to everyone. It’s basically a minimum income guarantee.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,803
shmmeee said:
If you do it as a negative income tax it’s not given equally to everyone. It’s basically a minimum income guarantee.
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That's fairer. I've always felt the personal allowance should be set at the level at which a person can afford rent/mortgage, energy and food/clothing as why should you be paying tax if you can't afford what I deem to be basics.

Of course others would argue that it basically encourages people to not work. Why work numerous hours for 16k a yr when you could do no work and get exactly the same?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,804
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
That's fairer. I've always felt the personal allowance should be set at the level at which a person can afford rent/mortgage, energy and food/clothing as why should you be paying tax if you can't afford why I deem to be basics.

Of course others would argue that it basically encourages people to not work. Why work numerous hours for 16k a yr when you could do no work and get exactly the same?
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Reforms one good idea
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,805
Sky Blue Pete said:
Reforms one good idea
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They had plenty, will be an interesting build up to the next elections
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,806
Even the Daily Mail referring to Reeves as Thatcherite lol
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,807
Grendel said:
Even the Daily Mail referring to Reeves as Thatcherite lol
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She certainly talks a good game, let’s see if she can act on it
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,808
SkyBlueDom26 said:
They had plenty, will be an interesting build up to the next elections
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Another Dom shit-take
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,809
clint van damme said:
Can anyone help?
Lee and his mates have been on the lash and managed to misplace their country

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Weird post.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,810
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Another Dom shit-take
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Anybody that has a different opinion has a shit take, no wonder everyone thinks this forum is shite
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,811
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Weird post.
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Not really, stupid tweet from a grown mañ and sitting mp. It's like something Al Murray would come up with.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,812
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Anybody that has a different opinion has a shit take, no wonder everyone thinks this forum is shite
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Snowflake!
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 21, 2024
  • #41,813
clint van damme said:
Not really, stupid tweet from a grown mañ and sitting mp. It's like something Al Murray would come up with.
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To be fair
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 22, 2024
  • #41,814
Kin ell.

 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2024
  • #41,815
skybluetony176 said:
Kin ell.

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Kin ell indeed
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2024
  • #41,816
Fair play Malc, just clocked the avatar
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 22, 2024
  • #41,817
skybluetony176 said:
Kin ell.

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Stop the traffickers becomes we are the traffickers?
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Jul 22, 2024
  • #41,818
skybluetony176 said:
Kin ell.

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I am looking forward to the Taxpayers Alliance's report on this.

Monumental waste of money, and immoral policy too. Just think what positive good we could have done with this money.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 22, 2024
  • #41,819
Deleted member 9744 said:
I am looking forward to the Taxpayers Alliance's report on this.

Monumental waste of money, and immoral policy too. Just think what positive good we could have done with this money.
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Calm down.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #41,820
Is he going to scrap the cap on child benefits as well?
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #41,821
Nick said:
Is he going to scrap the cap on child benefits as well?
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Dunno is he?
I guess if he did it guarantees there's something there in that future of ours that's always threatened?
 

Ian1779

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #41,822
Nick said:
Is he going to scrap the cap on child benefits as well?
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Think he has to. He’s underestimated the depth of feeling on the topic, and his argument to not afford it is flimsy at best considering he’s happy to essentially issue blank cheques to Ukraine.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #41,823
Ian1779 said:
Think he has to. He’s underestimated the depth of feeling on the topic, and his argument to not afford it is flimsy at best considering he’s happy to essentially issue blank cheques to Ukraine.
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Not sure where the depth of feelings from. For all the noise even a majority of Labour voters support the policy

 
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MalcSB

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #41,824
Ian1779 said:
Think he has to. He’s underestimated the depth of feeling on the topic, and his argument to not afford it is flimsy at best considering he’s happy to essentially issue blank cheques to Ukraine.
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I wonder what the Office for Budget Responsibility will make of it.
 

MalcSB

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #41,825
CCFCSteve said:
Not sure where the depth of feelings from. For all the noise even a majority of Labour voters support the policy

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Just goes to show yet another disconnect between the governing elite and the general public.
 
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