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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (36 Viewers)

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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,686
SkyBlueDom26 said:
No it ain’t, should have been longer it could have caused accidents and people would have got hurt
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Surely stationary traffic is less likely to cause accidents than the quality of driving you normally see on the m25
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,687
chiefdave said:
Surely stationary traffic is less likely to cause accidents than the quality of driving you normally see on the m25
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It’s a bizarre sentence for a non violent crime
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,688
Sky Blue Pete said:
Albanians completely stopped handful
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Albanians have stopped what?
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,689
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s a bizarre sentence for a non violent crime
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Should be longer
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,690
Nick said:
Albanians have stopped what?
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Coming in large numbers
Tories did a deal and it worked
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,691
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s a bizarre sentence for a non violent crime
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it’s probably supposed to act as a deterrent. Perfectly reasonable, especially as they will end up doing nothing like their sentence. Less than half probably,
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,692
Sky Blue Pete said:
Coming in large numbers
Tories did a deal and it worked
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OMG, the Tories did something right,
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,693
chiefdave said:
Surely stationary traffic is less likely to cause accidents than the quality of driving you normally see on the m25
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To borrow a phrase from Boicey, that’s laughable halfwittery.
If one of them had fallen on someone, they would have caused some damage,
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,694
Sky Blue Pete said:
It is a thing that hasn’t really been done until the last 12 months or so
Like most of these things it’s not as easy as saying you’re going home goodbye
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Not helped when on the odd occasions when it’s tried, other passengers prevent the flight taking off.
Plus human rights lawyers.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,695
Sky Blue Pete said:
It is a thing that hasn’t really been done until the last 12 months or so
Like most of these things it’s not as easy as saying you’re going home goodbye
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Bring back the sheriff driving people out to the City Limits and outlaws.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,696
MalcSB said:
Presumably helped by not having the civil service ”blob” acting against them.
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If your political wing has to resort to calling everyone else NPCs and the blob, maybe they’re just not very good at working with others?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,697
MalcSB said:
No it isn’t. The disruption they caused and the money they cost - if someone had stolen that much money they would have expected jail time. Hopefully it will act as a deterrent unlike the tea and biscuits they usually get from law enforcement.
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Michelle Mone says hi.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,698
MalcSB said:
Not helped when on the odd occasions when it’s tried, other passengers prevent the flight taking off.
Plus human rights lawyers.
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It's embarrasing. Remember Elin Errson in Sweden? Refused to let the plane take off with someone being deported. Turned out he had kicked the shit out of his wife. Clueless fucking idiot.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,699
MalcSB said:
No it isn’t. The disruption they caused and the money they cost - if someone had stolen that much money they would have expected jail time. Hopefully it will act as a deterrent unlike the tea and biscuits they usually get from law enforcement.
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What disruption did they cause?
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,700
shmmeee said:
If your political wing has to resort to calling everyone else NPCs and the blob, maybe they’re just not very good at working with others?
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I thought the civil service were supposed to enact the decisions of parliament, not choose whether they wanted to work with the government or not.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,701
MalcSB said:
I thought the civil service were supposed to enact the decisions of parliament, not choose whether they wanted to work with the government or not.
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They’re still human and need working with. If everyone you meet is a dickhead, you’re the dickhead.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,702
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Michelle Mone says hi.
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What’s she got to do with it?
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,703
shmmeee said:
What disruption did they cause?
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Preventing ordinary people going about their lawful business.
 

nicksar

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2024
  • #41,704
Sick Boy said:
No idea. I’d guess around 10%.
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10,300 (as of 2023) 12% of prisoners are foreign nationals,with Albanians being the highest number.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,705
MalcSB said:
Preventing ordinary people going about their lawful business.
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How’s that?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,706
MalcSB said:
What’s she got to do with it?
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You said if people had stolen that much money they'd expect jail time.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,707
MalcSB said:
Presumably helped by not having the civil service ”blob” acting against them.
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Put that daily mail down!
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,708
Nick said:
"Projects" like PPE?

Spend it on processing and get a better system in place.

It won't do a thing.
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They're going improve processing too.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,709
MalcSB said:
It’s a load of bollocks.
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You were seemingly OK with the Rwanda scheme.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,710
shmmeee said:
They’re still human and need working with. If everyone you meet is a dickhead, you’re the dickhead.
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Very difficult to work with someone who is ideologically totally opposed to what you are trying to do.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,711
shmmeee said:
How’s that?
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FFS, being stuck in a traffic jam on the M25, or anywhere else the JSO scum and cunts have been active, preventing people getting to hospital appointments, to work, holding up ambulances etc.

You cannot seriously not accept that the disruption they caused stopped people going about their lawful business.
 

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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,712
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
You said if people had stolen that much money they'd expect jail time.
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If the allegations are proven, then yes she should face jail time.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,713
PVA said:
You were seemingly OK with the Rwanda scheme.
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The two schemes are completely different. i don’t think £28 million a year spread across Africa and the Middle East will make a blind bit of difference.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,714
MalcSB said:
The two schemes are completely different. i don’t think £28 million a year spread across Africa and teh Middle East will make a blind bit of difference.
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I find it strange you bemoan £84m as a laughable waste of money when at the very least that will improve some people's lives, but have no issue with spending £250m on literally fuck all.
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,715
PVA said:
I find it strange you bemoan £84m as a laughable waste of money when at the very least that will improve some people's lives, but have no issue with spending £250m on literally fuck all.
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But will the £84m significantly reduce the number of people crossing the channel?
It’s Labour cancelling the Rwanda project that has meant that £250m has been spent on literally fuck all.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,716
nicksar said:
10,300 (as of 2023) 12% of prisoners are foreign nationals,with Albanians being the highest number.
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It more or less mirrors the UK's percentage of foreign-born residents then; if anything it's slightly less.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,717
MalcSB said:
The two schemes are completely different. i don’t think £28 million a year spread across Africa and the Middle East will make a blind bit of difference.
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The Rwanda scheme never made a blind bit of difference. Cost us £280M for nothing. The numbers arriving by boats actually went up. If £28M a year has any effect at all it will be money far wiser spent than the Rwanda scheme.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,718
MalcSB said:
preventing people getting to hospital appointments, to work, holding up ambulances etc.
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,719
MalcSB said:
But will the £84m significantly reduce the number of people crossing the channel?
It’s Labour cancelling the Rwanda project that has meant that £250m has been spent on literally fuck all.
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If it was their flagship immigration policy you might have a point. But it's not. It's a small part of a wider programme to tackle immigration.

The Tories put all their eggs in one Rwandan basket and it was a total and utter abject failure. Labour are going about it much more sensibly and without the needless culture war and division.

It's just funny seeing people lose their shit over actual adults doing some actual governing.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2024
  • #41,720
clint van damme said:
Fucking scandalous. Wonder what the people in this country who fled from Hong Kong must be thinking?
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If they are that worried, they can always return.
 
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