clint van damme
Well-Known Member
No, but the amount of votes involved along with the issues with the reform candidate CDs mentioned above, could be enough to oust her
tbf it looks like it's not her fault (and it's not often you can say that about her!)
There's a wealth of evidence that supports socio-economic factors having a big influence on crime. Not sure why anyone would choose to just ignore that and continue on with the same system we've had for years which clearly isn't working.There's a reason why me, you and everyone else on here isn't in prison, it's because we have a moral compass that keeps us on the (relatively) straight and narrow, regardless of the trauma life has thrown at us.
We haven't needed the state to step in and make our problems easier so we don't break the law.
Take the well publicised tragic case of the young boy who's life was taken in Cov recently by the hit and run driver, what could the government do to stop the absolute scum bag driver from being so wilfully crazy behind the wheel.
Under the new proposals, when he's caught and convicted, he could find himself only serving 25% of his sentence.
I fear the new government will care far more for the feelings of the perpetrators than the victims.
And this isn't a political dig at Labour, as the prisons don't appear to have improved any over the last 14 years under the Tory party.
What’s that all about? Haven’t seen anything. Coincidentally an online political commentator was predicting this a week ago and saying it might stop her running for leadership of the Tories simply because she won’t be available for the election. I dismissed it as wishful thinking but maybe he had some inside knowledge.Looks like Badenoch could be in trouble.
some issue relating to postal votes in her constituency. Could be a rerun.
wasn't there an issue with the Reform candidate and they stop campaigning as it was too late to replace them? A rerun with a new reform candidate and Labour campaigning hard and she could be in trouble
That's not why it would be re-run though. Over 2,500 people didn't actually get their postal vote forms so were denied the chance to vote.That would be completely unfair. Is there a modern precedent, or even any precedent?
I said it would be unfair.That's not why it would be re-run though. Over 2,500 people didn't actually get their postal vote forms so were denied the chance to vote.
That's not why it would be re-run though. Over 2,500 people didn't actually get their postal vote forms so were denied the chance to vote.
It's about the same as the postal votes... which will end up being the argument isn't it, whether the result is tight enough to merit it. I mean, they haven't even said they're re-running it!I said it would be unfair.
She won by 2,610 votes, which sounds like more than the number of postal ballots which the council “forgot” to send out. Perhaps give those whose postal ballots weren’t issued the chance to vote but not a full rerun. And sack the officials who cocked this up.
Zero point in that, isn't there! Plus some might choose to, say, vote for the Labour candidate whereas they may have voted Tory at the time, to make the point that they were disenfranchised. And then you end up distorting the result.can they not just retrospectively vote as it won’t impact the end result.
The tik tok bots will be busy.I mentioned before that the younger generations seem to lean more to the right.
Letting the disenfranchised postal voters vote wouldn’t have the potential to distort the result as much as a complete rerun would.It's about the same as the postal votes... which will end up being the argument isn't it, whether the result is tight enough to merit it. I mean, they haven't even said they're re-running it!
Zero point in that, isn't there! Plus some might choose to, say, vote for the Labour candidate whereas they may have voted Tory at the time, to make the point that they were disenfranchised. And then you end up distorting the result.
I don't mind her to be honest. At least she chose a surname criticising that most outspoken of former Tory MP's, Enoch Powell.Looks like Badenoch could be in trouble.
some issue relating to postal votes in her constituency. Could be a rerun.
I don’t think it’s just a result of TikTok but a wider shift to the right.The tik tok bots will be busy.
She did say that TikTok had had an influence but Im sure you are correct.I don’t think it’s just a result of TikTok but a wider shift to the right.
He will fall under the 30000 number in prison who need to be thereThere's a reason why me, you and everyone else on here isn't in prison, it's because we have a moral compass that keeps us on the (relatively) straight and narrow, regardless of the trauma life has thrown at us.
We haven't needed the state to step in and make our problems easier so we don't break the law.
Take the well publicised tragic case of the young boy who's life was taken in Cov recently by the hit and run driver, what could the government do to stop the absolute scum bag driver from being so wilfully crazy behind the wheel.
Under the new proposals, when he's caught and convicted, he could find himself only serving 25% of his sentence.
I fear the new government will care far more for the feelings of the perpetrators than the victims.
And this isn't a political dig at Labour, as the prisons don't appear to have improved any over the last 14 years under the Tory party.
If you're suggesting they'd be more inclined on the whole to vote for Reform and parties to the right, I'd disagree.There was also some talk about giving EU nationals the vote, that may not play out as expected either.
Surely Mr Timpson isnt suggesting that a woman can't do time but a man can for the same offence?He will fall under the 30000 number in prison who need to be there
If he is Latvian expect him to be sent back as part of the agreements we have with them
Mr Timpson doesn’t think prison isn’t part of the solution it’s just not a solution for under 6’months or pretty much any woman. Obviously Lucy letby would be expected to be sentenced
That’s two posts within 24 hours; you seem quite obsessed with trans people.Surely Mr Timpson isnt suggesting that a woman can't do time but a man can for the same offence?
That's not going to go down well in 2024
And what if the "man" identifies as a "woman"
How many are you allowed in a 24 hour period then?That’s two posts within 24 hours; you seem quite obsessed with trans people.
As many as you likeHow many are you allowed in a 24 hour period then?
I don’t think it’s just a result of TikTok but a wider shift to the right.
Was it supposed to be policy? Is that what Remain would like to do, or what those who voted Remain would like to see?Curious that this was missing from the manifesto
The latter.Was it supposed to be policy? Is that what Remain would like to do, or what those who voted Remain would like to see?
You can definitely retrospectively vote. I forgot to sign my postal vote once and had a letter after the election asking me to sign the form as until I did so my vote could not be counted. At this point we were days after the election so I'm guessing at some point down the line every constituency has a final audited figure.Tricky one. Will depend on the exact number of voters affected as the winning margin was 2610. If it’s fewer than that then, to be honest, can they not just retrospectively vote as it won’t impact the end result.
The country has definitely lurched to the right though. The Rwanda scheme would have been the stuff of dreams for Meloni!In this country it’s almost all memes. We’ve generally not had the shift to the right Europe has.
In this country it’s almost all memes. We’ve generally not had the shift to the right Europe has.
No he’s notSurely Mr Timpson isnt suggesting that a woman can't do time but a man can for the same offence?
That's not going to go down well in 2024
And what if the "man" identifies as a "woman"
I thought it was more a comment on her political position. Enoch but worse.I don't mind her to be honest. At least she chose a surname criticising that most outspoken of former Tory MP's, Enoch Powell.
Bad Enoch indeed.
Centre right. Good one. Classic.It's pretty clear that the centre right government we had has been rejected by everyone for their incompetence by most of the electorate, and they've voted in the next biggest party tactically. It's nothing to do with bucking trends.
It might confuse those unfamiliar to European politics, but for someone who spends 23 hours a day on the politics thread, surely you are not that naive.
For me I don't think I'd want the entire thing to be PR, but at the same time I think it needs to be reflected somewhere in the govt. I'm no fan of transferable voting as it just seems everyone ends up with someone they didn't really want. Hence why I like FPTP for constituency MP's and PR for a second house.It’s been doing it to the Lib Dem’s and Greens for ages, not to mention the SDP. It’s literally the point of the system: keep the fringes on the fringe and force moderation.
Also people are calling for PR, the system that in NL just gave Geert Wilders power on 23% of the vote.
In a four or five party system 34% is the sort of vote that gives you power in any system. Are people really saying the want the Lib Dem’s or Reform as permanent king makers? And that would be more democratic?
Centre right. Goof one. Classic.
Because prisons aren't shown to be much of a deterrent and leads to a high percentage of reoffending. In some cases prisons are basically seen as criminal gang recruitment centres.Exactly. It's easier to let convicted criminals out than to come up with a solution to the overcrowded prisons.
Why not just build more prisons? And invest in rehabilitation to cut down on re-offending rather than locking people up for 23 hours a day.
You mean aside from a bunch of cunts?Back in the real world.
What would you call them then?
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