Actually yes I do and I’m happy to engage in a discussion on that if you’d please answer my question?I can't understand why immigration used to be tens of thousands a year and is now hundreds of thousands. Do you ?
tbf there are a few of them I'd happily boost taxes for just for the lolsSo the tax burden will go up for abnormal people?
not sure who is having the worst day on twitter, the tories or the corbynites
Cut benefits to the lazy bastards who use any excuse not to work, then I’m in, if it means paying more then that’s ok, I’ll suck it in and adapt, we have more jobs available than the lazy bastards who sit on the dole, cut their dole then I’m all in. It’s bloody disheartening atm
Who's been stealing your thoughts?Cut benefits to the lazy bastards who use any excuse not to work, then I’m in, if it means paying more then that’s ok, I’ll suck it in and adapt, we have more jobs available than the lazy bastards who sit on the dole, cut their dole then I’m all in. It’s bloody disheartening atm
I've expressed an opinion, clearly .Actually yes I do and I’m happy to engage in a discussion on that if you’d please answer my question?
There are plenty of people on here who I disagree with but they are at least able to formulate and express an opinion.
why are you literally not able to give me a response?
You do talk bollocks. People on here, myself included, really aren’t saying those things.It's wonderful isn't it. Mind you it's pretty much the same in here!
A large majority is actually the worst result possible
If you add the results of two parties together then Labour actually lost the election
Winning lots of large swing seats is the sign of a poor campaign
Winning 400+ seats and a big majority is actually a sign that Corbyn is more popular
Not sure which one is my favourite
You do talk bollocks. People on here, myself included, really aren’t saying those things.
This is embarrassing. You are so furious about immigration and it’s the reason that you say reform will continue to gain support and get you cannot give me one single reason why the current levels of immigration is a bad thing and unsustainable.Perhaps you can explain why the figure are well over 500k now . Persuade me it's beneficial to us all and I may well change my mind and embrace it.
Correct as you say, but was the vote change for Labour? Usually quite marginal but the damage to the tories was gains to Lib Dem and Reform voters (a bit of Greens in more rural areas too).yes they did, there is loads of seats with swings from con to lab of over 20%.
you aren't taking this well are you
that's not the point, it is unlikely to go up but the reason it is high is fuck all to do with labour and a lot more with dealing with the fallout of the truss budget
Of course it wasn’t a bad result. A better result would have been the same number of seats having taken all the votes from the Tories that Reform did.All those things have been said on here and/or twitter.
The only bollocks being spouted is that it was a bad result for Labour.
Oh look, a pretext for raising taxes…Bloody hell, that was quicker than I anticipated.
”Rachel Reeves has issued a damning assessment of the state of the UK’s finances.
The new chancellor of the exchequer said she was inheriting a depleted economy from the Conservatives that would create a “challenge” for the new Labour government.
“There’s not a huge amount of money there,” Ms Reeves told the BBC. “I know the scale of the challenge I inherit.””
Are you serious ? Your first paragraph is full of assumptions. I've said support for Farage will grow if labour do nothing to curb immigration. Why wouldn't It ? It's at the heart of what they campaigned for It doesn't mean I support them but it's clear I have an opinion.This is embarrassing. You are so furious about immigration and it’s the reason that you say reform will continue to gain support and get you cannot give me one single reason why the current levels of immigration is a bad thing and unsustainable.
I’ve not even said I disagree with you but how embarrassing for you you can’t even give a single opinion or reason about it.
Many others on here can…why can’t you? Or maybe you just don’t feel comfortable sharing yours in the public domain
Hmmi, Labour leave a shit economy with no cash = bad Labour
Conservatives leave a shit economy with no cash = bad Labour
I understand...
So you can’t give me one single reason why immigration at this level is bad and unsustainable?Are you serious ? Your first paragraph is full of assumptions. I've said support for Farage will grow if labour do nothing to curb immigration. Why wouldn't It ? It's at the heart of what they campaigned for It doesn't mean I support them but it's clear I have an opinion.
Perhaps you could point out where I'm "furious"
Perhaps you should answer my previous questions which you've clearly ignored .
As for being embarrassed I'll leave that to you ..
Give me a reason why it's a good thing . You can't .So you can’t give me one single reason why immigration at this level is bad and unsustainable?
That was the first thing I asked you. Ill wait..
What are you 5 years old?Give me a reason why it's a good thing .
She also went on to say they were looking for private investment to fill the gap instead of raising taxes.Oh look, a pretext for raising taxes…
They’re elected now, who cares what was said on the campaign trail.
I've worked in banking and finance for most of my adult life, and would like to consider myself "young", but I think your perception is maybe a tad limited. Whilst it's true that work is considered maybe "less important" by certain cohorts in the UK, but there is a balance to be struck between those who consider work to be "important" but "life is for living".I’m sorry, but do you seriously think I considered voting for the conservatives, I wanted to vote for the working person party, but couldn’t find one, so it’s not a rant. We don’t have a party in the UK who is dedicated to the working person. That’s my argument.
The country is full to the brim of lazy idle, excuse making machines, who have no intention to get off their fat arse and work for a living. We all must agree with that at least.
I come across it every time I go out to a large social gathering, what do you do for a living, ‘ ohh I’m scared of budgies, or I identify as an African mongoose, so can’t work. I’ve never known it this bad in my life
So you can’t give me one single reason why immigration at this level is bad and unsustainable?
That was the first thing I asked you. Ill wait..
I can't stay up for another nightAnd the result isn't due until tomorrow.
You're just starting the insults now because you're not getting the bite back you want .What are you 5 years old?
I havent even said whether I agree or disagree with you, I’m just trying to understand your point of view but it seems like you don’t have one?
Migration and immigration happens. It’s a thing. If you’re voting for change because you are unhappy with the current situation, it follows that you would at least be able to articulate why you are unhappy with it?
Tragic
The economics can be argued in a variety of different ways, I certainly agree that net zero migration is silly. The concept that all our services won't be worse off if we imported 20 million people tomorrow is also silly however.
You've also got the cultural aspects. We've got a proud tradition and heritage. I don't see why we would want to erase that. We're already seeing massive demographic changes in many places in the UK and I think it bothers a lot of people. Whether they'll admit it is another matter, for obvious reasons, but it's a worthy debating point.
I would also flip it the other way as I think there's many people that want open borders, but try and mud the waters with the economical arguments whilst simultaneously throwing the racist card out at anyone who challenges it.
Ideally we have a sensible approach to it and have a healthy level of immigration. People will quickly shut up about it and then we can concentrate on other much more important things.
I don't want to stop migration but it's running at numbers unprecedented and it's unsustainable, surely .
If someone can give me a good reason why we need well over 500k figures per year then I'm prepared to listen. It used to be tens of thousands for many many years but it's out of control.
Farage has benefited from this and is exploiting the situation.
“Immigration at this level is unsustainable and needs to change”You're just starting the insults now because you're not getting the bite back you want .
You can't tell my why 500k + is perfectly fine and to say it " happens" is a convenient cop out.
I'm still waiting for you to point out the "furious" claim . It'll be a long wait but I'm sure you can come up with something .
The country is full to the brim of lazy idle, excuse making machines, who have no intention to get off their fat arse and work for a living. We all must agree with that at least.
Hey, no stats, you hear me?UK employment rate is higher than anytime in the last 50 years, so no I don't agree with that.
Drama Queen.“Immigration at this level is unsustainable and needs to change”
“Why is that?”
“Well you tell me why it’s a good thing”
Another Tory triumphUK employment rate is higher than anytime in the last 50 years, so no I don't agree with that.
How do you feel about the current numbers , shmmeee ? I didn't vote reform but I can understand why other people voted for them.It’s down to Ukraine and Hong Kong though.
And you never hear them mentioned. Coeverly and Dorries were at least honest enough to admit last night the targets they set were a nonsense that could never be met.
until someone can verbalise exactly who it is we want to stop coming in we will get nowhere.
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