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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (27 Viewers)

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Evo1883

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #3,991
Kids used to get suspended for lobbing chairs at teachers heads because they were a genuine threat to the teachers safety .

Not because they said a few silly words
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2021
  • #3,992
Evo1883 said:
Kids used to get suspended for lobbing chairs at teachers heads because they were a genuine threat to the teachers safety .

Not because they said a few silly words
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Hypothetically, what should they do if they used the N word, or called someone a P a k i?
 

Evo1883

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #3,993
Ccfcisparks said:
Hypothetically, what should they do if they used the N word, or called someone a P a k i?
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I don't know ..apologise , have it discussed with them why it's so offensive to some people and why they shouldn't say it ... phone their parents and discuss the situation .

What does suspending them achieve
When I used to get suspended I never suddenly turned into an angel
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #3,994
Evo1883 said:
I don't know ..apologise , have it discussed with them why it's so offensive to some people and why they shouldn't say it ... phone their parents and discuss the situation .

What does suspending them achieve
When I used to get suspended I never suddenly turned into an angel
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Welcome to the authoritarian libertarate.
 

hill83

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #3,995
Ccfcisparks said:
Hypothetically, what should they do if they used the N word, or called someone a P a k i?
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Very silly words indeed
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #3,996
Grown adults , they are at a point where they should know better .

Kids are kids , they do things that very rarely represent the person they will eventually become, they make mistakes without fully understanding the harm caused .

Educate not punish
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #3,997
Evo1883 said:
Grown adults , they are at a point where they should know better .

Kids are kids , they do things that very rarely represent the person they will eventually become, they make mistakes without fully understanding the harm caused .

Educate not punish
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What age do you draw the line? At 16 I would have thought that the person would know whats right and whats not.
 

Evo1883

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #3,998
Ccfcisparks said:
What age do you draw the line? At 16 I would have thought that the person would know whats right and whats not.
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At 16 , we trial most people as minors for similar reasons .
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #3,999
Evo1883 said:
Suspended because senior management demand it not because its the correct thing to do .

Education not punishment at such a young age
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Evo1883 said:
Grown adults , they are at a point where they should know better .

Kids are kids , they do things that very rarely represent the person they will eventually become, they make mistakes without fully understanding the harm caused .

Educate not punish
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You either nip it in the bud or you let them go down an unfortunate road. I have had more n-bombs to deal with than you might think and teenager or not I don’t want racist twats in my classroom
 

Evo1883

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,000
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You either nip it in the bud or you let them go down an unfortunate road. I have had more n-bombs to deal with than you might think and teenager or not I don’t want racist twats in my classroom
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Like I said ..suspensions never nipped me in the bud , I carried on being a stupid little boy ... it didn't work
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,001
Evo1883 said:
Like I said ..suspensions never nipped me in the bud , I carried on being a stupid little boy ... it didn't work
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You probably weren’t calling people the n word several times a lesson
 

Evo1883

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,002
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You probably weren’t calling people the n word several times a lesson
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No , that's not the argument .

Besides , once their suspension is up , aren't they back in the classroom anyway ?

Wouldn't it be easier to "educate" them

Clearly suspensions aren't working
 

Evo1883

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,003
Anyway where the fuck do you work

KKK high ?
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,004
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I take it that if Mr Corbyn penned a piece in the Guardian comparing Jews to hot cross buns you’d make no comment
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Didn’t he say that Jews have hook noses and control the media? No. Wait. That was Boris again.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,005
skybluetony176 said:
Didn’t he say that Jews have hook noses and control the media? No. Wait. That was Boris again.
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So, even-handed then. That's a good trait in a leader.
 

Evo1883

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,006
I've just spoke to my daughter ... at their school if a kid is racist or homophobic , they spend time at school afterwards "learning " and parents are informed

As a first step

She also said it doesn't happen alot in her year .
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,007
Evo1883 said:
I've just spoke to my daughter ... at their school if a kid is racist or homophobic , they spend time at at school afterwards "learning " .
As a first step
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The fact thats the "first step" and not the only step probably shows that it doesn't work either.
 

stupot07

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,008
Johnsons comments were racist, whatever context they were in.

1 rule for Boris, another for everyone else. Sums up his life really.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 

Evo1883

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,009
Ccfcisparks said:
The fact thats the "first step" and not the only step probably shows that it doesn't work either.
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Well I think it does , as she can't give me an example of any children In her year being suspended for racism
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,010
Evo1883 said:
Anyway where the fuck do you work

KKK high ?
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This was just at a secondary in Coventry with a high % of African and Caribbean students on the roll. It’s not as though we don’t attempt to educate on racism but I wouldn’t apologise for zero tolerance
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,011
stupot07 said:
Johnsons comments were racist, whatever context they were in.

1 rule for Boris, another for everyone else. Sums up his life really.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
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Nope, no evidence they were racist.

Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another
 

Evo1883

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,012
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This was just at a secondary in Coventry with a high % of African and Caribbean students on the roll. It’s not as though we don’t attempt to educate on racism but I wouldn’t apologise for zero tolerance
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To be fair, there isn't any school in coventry that I go past that doesn't appear to be very mixed in race these days .

I'm trying to make this sound like I'm not Jimmy Saville by going past schools but due to the nature of my job I'm constantly going past schools

Sound awful ffs
 
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PVA

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,013
'it's ok that he made disparaging remarks about Muslims because it wasn't technically racist'

The Tory Defence Force are really clutching at straws here.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,014
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,015
dubed said:
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I'd actually say that too
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,016
Evo1883 said:
I'd actually say that too
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No you wouldn't, you'd say this

 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,017
Or maybe I'm getting confused with how bsb instills a sense of appreciation for ethnicity into kids.
 

Evo1883

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,018
dubed said:
Or maybe I'm getting confused with how Tone instills a sense of appreciation for ethnicity into kids.
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When you have 2 girls with blond hair and blue eyes aged 12 and 9 .. and living in tile hill you often find yourself in a situation you'd rather not be in .

My favourite line , one which will definitely get me fucked over one day .

I don't care who your dad is , send him round

Had to sit in the garden with a hammer just incase
It's not Finham

And that's why gervais is so funny here
 

Grendel

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,019
skybluetony176 said:
Didn’t he say that Jews have hook noses and control the media? No. Wait. That was Boris again.
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No that was him liking a Jewish version of monopoly on Facebook Tony
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,020
dubed said:
Or maybe I'm getting confused with how bsb instills a sense of appreciation for ethnicity into kids.
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Well certain other kids did once say they would occupy the Head’s office and ban white people from the site
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,021
Evo1883 said:
When you have 2 girls with blond hair and blue eyes aged 12 and 9 .. and living in tile hill you often find yourself in a situation you'd rather not be in .

My favourite line , one which will definitely get me fucked over one day .

I don't care who your dad is , send him round

Had to sit in the garden with a hammer just incase
It's not Finham

And that's why gervais is so funny here
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I'm not having that about Finham, one time the Marks and Spencer garage ran out of mini pork pies and coronation chicken
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,022
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'm not having that about Finham, one time the Marks and Spencer garage ran out of mini pork pies and coronation chicken
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A bloke in finham came out and kicked his wheelie bin the other day because we blocked his drive .

Was a pretty scary moment in all fairness
 

Ian1779

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,023
Evo1883 said:
Suspended because senior management demand it not because its the correct thing to do .

Education not punishment at such a young age
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It very much depends on context. Both avenues may be legitimate paths to pursue.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,024
Evo1883 said:
A bloke in finham came out and kicked his wheelie bin the other day because we blocked his drive .

Was a pretty scary moment in all fairness
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That was you?
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 25, 2021
  • #4,025
Sky Blue Pete said:
I have no problem with leaders being paid a high wage and agree with Grendel on this. I also think staff in the nhs deserve a pay rise that keeps their salary in line with inflation and worry that there are 400 vacancies which is 20% of the overall staffing of university hospital coventry. And can’t help thinking they may be linked
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On principle, I don’t think many people would disagree with the concept of giving nurses more than 1% pay rise.

The reality is, the amount the government has borrowed since COVID makes it unlikely the Government will increase the pay of public sector workers. It has to come from somewhere and it tax rises are needed to fund this, it’s more money out of everyone’s pocket, including public sector staff.

The government are receiving stock for this, but I know I’d rather the government increase taxation in more subtle ways. For example, they’ve frozen the thresholds in which we pay ‘x’ tax band. In practice, a tax hike without the increase rate on our payslips.

If you work in the public sector, you’ll never become rich.
 
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