Terry Gibson's perm
Well-Known Member
But clearing just as Sir Keir will be speaking
But clearing just as Sir Keir will be speakingThe heavens have already given us their verdict.
Miserable weather, pissing down.
This is why I think he’ll ultimately end up in the Conservatives.I really would underestimate Farage. Essentially 4 million people voted purely for him.
Brexit occurred due to him and in many northern red walk seats he is now the opposition
Did you mean wouldn’t underestimate?I really would underestimate Farage. Essentially 4 million people voted purely for him.
Brexit occurred due to him and in many northern red walk seats he is now the opposition
Did you mean wouldn’t underestimate?
In which case, I’d agree it’s foolish to underestimate him. He cuts through to voters who traditionally would be Labour voters with conservative ideas.
On the flip side, Reform has got about 14% of the total vote but only 4 seats. So it's not all bad!what a night. sat up and watched it all.
two thirds of the seats, but only one third of the votes. not good.
as clear an indication as ever that the electoral system in this country is very unfair.
then they should have more seats. it's called democracy.On the flip side, Reform has got about 14% of the total vote but only 4 seats. So it's not all bad!
They’ve stoppedDo we get a prayer for the new government today?
Thank you.They’ve stopped
I could make one up
lord
Please give keir and his cabinet wisdom beyond their human capabilities.
please help us seek the common good and work for all those things that as a society we need more than any other
Amen
Yeah he’s only won the opportunity to earn the peoples respectUnless he's successful of course!
Surely if the parliament is already lawless it absolutely NEEDS a menace!Farage is already getting far too much air time and he sounds like he will be a menace in the already lawless parliament
No that’s absolutely right and it was a tiny step still a change is essential for the good of democracy in the land just don’t know what will workBrilliant result for Labour as this should of been impossible given the position the party was in in 2019.
Lot's for Labour to think about though, particularly how we mean bridges with the muslim community.
Do actually feel for reform, 4 seats is not a lot for the amount of votes but hey the right didn't support us when we tried for a version of pr in that referendum
Thing is Farage, Lowe, Tice will now have to start playing by some rules. They won't be able to mouth off like they used to.
They will absolutely try it though.
And then when they get reprimanded or suspended or something they'll be all 'Look, the establishment is against man of the people Nigel!!!'
It really isn’t a brilliant result for Labour. The position in terms of proportion of the vote has barely improved from 2019 and the percentage of those eligible to vote who have voted Labour has actually decreased.Brilliant result for Labour as this should of been impossible given the position the party was in in 2019.
Lot's for Labour to think about though, particularly how we mean bridges with the muslim community.
Do actually feel for reform, 4 seats is not a lot for the amount of votes but hey the right didn't support us when we tried for a version of pr in that referendum
He wants immigration reduced. He doesn't want it stopped. He's made that clear.
then they should have more seats. it's called democracy.
don't get me wrong, i'm no fan of them.
I’m human I can’t wish good on my enemiesThank you.
And one for the vanquished?
Not when he makes it clear he wants immigration reduced , not stopped.You could be forgiven for thinking he wants all the immigrants kicked out based on how he speaks. His politics are abhorrent.
It really isn’t a brilliant result for Labour. The position in terms of proportion of the vote has barely improved from 2019 and the percentage of those eligible to vote who have voted Labour has actually decreased.
it worked well for germany in the mid 30s.Literally all that matters is winning the election, by as large a margin as possible, and that's exactly what they've done.
How can a huge majority be anything other than a brilliant result, to suggest anything else is just saltiness.
I think you probably managed to reel a few in with your Tommy march post.I had one look through Reforms policies, realised how unaffordable it was and didn't read again. I cant believe over 4million people fell for it.
Yeah, they didn't have to do anything else to win this election, but really need to show their competence now don't they.If the Tories want to get back in they either have to make him go away or unite with him. Either way, Starmer only got 35% of the vote in England. I could genuinely see it being a one term government
He blames immigration for every problem under the sun.Not when he makes it clear he wants immigration reduced , not stopped.
Unless you have evidence to backup what you say.
Just out of interest BSB, which of his policies do you find abhorrent?You could be forgiven for thinking he wants all the immigrants kicked out based on how he speaks. His politics are abhorrent.
There's enough n the language used, not just by him but by some of his acolytes, that I have no problem in dubbing them a racist party. The worst thing with it all is he actually stops an adult debate about immigration.He blames immigration for every problem under the sun.
Let’s start with wanting to leave the ECHRJust out of interest BSB, which of his policies do you find abhorrent?
...brace yourself.Just out of interest BSB, which of his policies do you find abhorrent?
Well when you have 685,000 people arriving in the UK in 2023 (according to the net migration observatory) it's hardly surprising that the pressure on infrastructure becomes intolerable.He blames immigration for every problem under the sun.
It's a great result for Labour but they've won it by effectively doing nothing and saying nothing.Literally all that matters is winning the election, by as large a margin as possible, and that's exactly what they've done.
How can a huge majority be anything other than a brilliant result, to suggest anything else is just saltiness.
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