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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,796
shmmeee said:
Just got exit polled in Beduff, must see North Warwickshire as a bellweather.
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Always is isn't it?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,797
Deleted member 5849 said:
Always is isn't it?
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Nuneaton used to be didn’t it? Polling I saw put Labour and Tories neck and neck so wouldn’t be surprised.
 

SomersetSB

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,798
shmmeee said:
Just got exit polled in Beduff, must see North Warwickshire as a bellweather.
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Did they ask if you had white socks on?
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,799
Going to enjoy all the 'not much love for Labour/Starmer' stuff as they cruise to about a million seats
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,800
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Isn't that a bit late?
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Why?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,801
Deleted member 5849 said:
Two of the Coventry ones were pretty close last time! It's also a new MP in the other constituency.

Any other time it'd be a time to look with interest what happens. As it is, it's a kind of referendum oj the job the two new MPs have done isn't it, and if they can increase their margin of victory to the more traditional level seen around those parts.
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To be fair it's doubtful they'll be close this time. The voting in council and mayoral elections has returned to pre 2019 election levels.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,802
David O'Day said:
it's gonna be okay
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Team Zara leafleting this morning was fun - most people I spoke to voting and voting for her
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,803
PVA said:
Going to enjoy all the 'not much love for Labour/Starmer' stuff as they cruise to about a million seats
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I never got that argument, surely it's worse for you if you are that unpopular people will vote for someone they don't like just to get rid of you.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,804
shmmeee said:
It must be polling day

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I hope they do and it smudges and spoils their papers
It’s why we use a pencil
Hate we can’t trust one another but I know I’m naive.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,805
Deleted member 5849 said:
Two of the Coventry ones were pretty close last time! It's also a new MP in the other constituency.

Any other time it'd be a time to look with interest what happens. As it is, it's a kind of referendum oj the job the two new MPs have done isn't it, and if they can increase their margin of victory to the more traditional level seen around those parts.
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I think it was closer last time because it was a change of MP. Now they're incumbent and the Tories are massively unpopualar i think the seats should be won relatively comfortably. But I did vote tactically just in case.
 

AOM

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,806
shmmeee said:
It must be polling day

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Sally Webster?

 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,807
shmmeee said:
Nuneaton used to be didn’t it? Polling I saw put Labour and Tories neck and neck so wouldn’t be surprised.
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It's always been a seat with a stereotypical spread of voters, and tends to generally reflect the overall vote. That seat's gained Atherstone too.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,808
AOM said:
Sally Webster?

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First signs of election fraud. Soap characters don’t qualify for a vote surely?!
 

AOM

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,809
SBAndy said:
First signs of election fraud. Soap characters don’t qualify for a vote surely?!
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You might be right, although my local candidate Phil Mitchell seems worthy of a vote
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,810
Ccfcisparks said:
Why?
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Did you send it by same day courier?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,811
Anyway, be vaguely interested how my seat goes. It tends to be Tory and nowt but Tory, we've moved constituencies into yet another Tory and nowt but Tory seat! The MP's stood down though and they've parachuted in some bloke in from Yorkshire who was going to lose his seat, so we'll see how that goes. Even on the voting slip it has (address in Leeds) where all the others are local, so he stands out a bit.

Doubt it'll be enough to get rid, but might be tighter than it ought to be.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,812
Ccfcisparks said:
One postal vote sent off for Reform
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We're you swayed by the posters of old people claiming they were switching to reform when they were actually dead?!
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,813
clint van damme said:
We're you swayed by the posters of old people claiming they were switching to reform when they were actually dead?!
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Yes mate if the afterlife can tell me that Farage is the way forward, who am I not to believe them.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 4, 2024
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PVA said:
Going to enjoy all the 'not much love for Labour/Starmer' stuff as they cruise to about a million seats
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I'm not going to enjoy it when it dawns on people we're getting more austerity unless we magic some growth from somewhere.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 4, 2024
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,816
Going to put my little x in the Green box. Could be Labour's only loss tonight.

I can't wait to see the faces of some of the cunts losing their seats.
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,817
clint van damme said:
Were you swayed by the posters of old people claiming they were switching to reform when they were actually dead?!
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Along with Edgar Neubauer.

The dead have risen and are voting Reform!
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,818
Liquid Gold said:
I can't wait to see the faces of some of the cunts losing their seats.
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I am looking forward to this.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,819
clint van damme said:
I am looking forward to this.
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tbf most of them have jumped first!
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,820
Sky Blue Pete said:
Terrible fear of something bad happening
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Like what?
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,821
Sick Boy said:
Like what?
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Sunak and Starmer are really Kang and Kodos in disguise?
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,822
clint van damme said:
I'm not going to enjoy it when it dawns on people we're getting more austerity unless we magic some growth from somewhere.
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Spot on Clint.
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,823
Average age of voters in the queue this morning here in N Hampshire: 128
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,824
Sky Blue Pete said:
And we still aren’t talking about what fundamentally matters

womens only spaces??
Immigration?

What about cost of living
Housing and homelessness
Investment in society
Education

staples of our society
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Ironically, immigration filters into housing, education, healthcare and investment in society.

If this next government doesn’t get a handle on immigration, expect the centre of politics to crumble. As it has in France, Netherlands and soon, in Germany and more. As with Brexit wiping out UKIP, if immigration is tightened, you kill Reform as a political force. Left unchecked, Reform could do some real damage in Labour ‘red wall’ constituencies and elsewhere.

Denmark is a good example of what a centre to centre-left government can achieve on immigration. It’s a non-issue because cross-party, they’ve kept levels low.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,825
skybluetony176 said:
Just checked. It’s over 140 countries that have committed to achieving net zero. Including China, USA and India.
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Are those commitments worth the paper they’re written on? Probably not.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,826
clint van damme said:
I'm not going to enjoy it when it dawns on people we're getting more austerity unless we magic some growth from somewhere.
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The economy can’t be as bad as the last 14 years, the last 8 especially. It doesn’t need sweeping reform it needs basic competence. We are so far off other countries in basic stuff, all a new govt has to do is basic tried and tested developing country economic strategy stuff and we’re laughing.

Growth stopped the day the Tories took power.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,827
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Ironically, immigration filters into housing, education, healthcare and investment in society.

If this next government doesn’t get a handle on immigration, expect the centre of politics to crumble. As it has in France, Netherlands and soon, in Germany and more. As with Brexit wiping out UKIP, if immigration is tightened, you kill Reform as a political force. Left unchecked, Reform could do some real damage in Labour ‘red wall’ constituencies and elsewhere.

Denmark is a good example of what a centre to centre-left government can achieve on immigration. It’s a non-issue because cross-party, they’ve kept levels low.
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But if people actually paid attention they'd know Reform are excluding health and social care workers from their targets. Who make up a huge number of immigrants. So in fact they would do very little to change anything, just treat them more like shit.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,828
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Ironically, immigration filters into housing, education, healthcare and investment in society.

If this next government doesn’t get a handle on immigration, expect the centre of politics to crumble. As it has in France, Netherlands and soon, in Germany and more. As with Brexit wiping out UKIP, if immigration is tightened, you kill Reform as a political force. Left unchecked, Reform could do some real damage in Labour ‘red wall’ constituencies and elsewhere.

Denmark is a good example of what a centre to centre-left government can achieve on immigration. It’s a non-issue because cross-party, they’ve kept levels low.
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Flip flop. Numbers again. I thought it was about the message of illegal immigration?

I agree on Denmark though. A template for how to handle the far right.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,829
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But if people actually paid attention they'd know Reform are excluding health and social care workers from their targets. Who make up a huge number of immigrants. So in fact they would do very little to change anything, just treat them more like shit.
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Like Brexit, Reform is about tax cuts for Farage and his mates and nothing else.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 4, 2024
  • #39,830
SIR ERNIE said:
Average age of voters in the queue this morning here in N Hampshire: 128
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Everyone else going into the polling station when I went was retired, but it was after 9am so most people will be in work.
 
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