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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,306
PVA said:
"Betty Bradstock"

Close. 0/2 on the correct names there. Good effort.
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Well it made you actually research something for once didn’t it?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,307
wingy said:
Give him a knock,see if he has any spare eggs, I hear they're not bad!
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Could do with some golden ones.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,308
Deleted member 5849 said:
Drop candidates because they're a bit racist

Ask people to vote for them anyway

Reform UK drops three candidates over offensive comments

The candidates will still appear on the ballot paper as it is too late to remove them.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Nigel Farage to boycott BBC over ‘biased’ Question Time audience

Reform also complains to Electoral Commission and Essex police about Channel 4 undercover investigation of party
www.theguardian.com

Seems asking questions is woke
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,309
Grendel said:
So you have to go through a long process even if the person lied to get the job and doesn’t possess the skills? Someone should have same rights at 1 day as 40 years? Seriously?
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So should we only let 18yo's have a fraction of the rights of a full adult because they're new?

Of course there needs to be some kind of process to ensure new recruits are up to scratch and can be removed if they aren't capable or take the piss but I don't see why that should mean they have fewer rights elsewhere. And usually those that are there to take the piss will wait until the end of probation and start doing it, so should we extend probation to prevent that? How long? A year? Two years? Five? Ten?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,310
clint van damme said:
Letting agencies snapping up properties is a huge issue.
I mentioned it earlier in the thread but developers selling large blocs of new developments to letting agencies who then rent them out for more than the cost of a mortgage on them needs to be looked at.
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Surely you can write a law saying companies and organisations cannot own residential property and humans can only own one.

I've said it before and will say it again, housing needs to be seen as a place to live, not a thing to make money.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,311
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Surely you can write a law saying companies and organisations cannot own residential property and humans can only own one.

I've said it before and will say it again, housing needs to be seen as a place to live, not a thing to make money.
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Be interesting to see how the Barcelona ban on airBnB's works
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,312
Haha!

 
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MalcSB

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,313
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Surely you can write a law saying companies and organisations cannot own residential property and humans can only own one.

I've said it before and will say it again, housing needs to be seen as a place to live, not a thing to make money.
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Whatever next? There will always be some people who need, or prefer, to rent. The relatively recent changes in taxation and other regulations for landlords have seen them selling their properties off, causing huge problems in the rental market whilst having no impact on the availability or price of houses for sale. There are simply too many people chasing too few properties. We will see how Labours plans for 1,500,000 new homes over the next 5 years progresses. Don’t hold your breath.
 

MalcSB

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,314
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
So should we only let 18yo's have a fraction of the rights of a full adult because they're new?

Of course there needs to be some kind of process to ensure new recruits are up to scratch and can be removed if they aren't capable or take the piss but I don't see why that should mean they have fewer rights elsewhere. And usually those that are there to take the piss will wait until the end of probation and start doing it, so should we extend probation to prevent that? How long? A year? Two years? Five? Ten?
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The probationary period is not about their age, it’s about being new in a job.

Also interesting that you consider an 18 year old not to be a full adult. Labour will give the vote to children. Laughable.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,315
clint van damme said:
Haha!

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Haha state of that audience
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,316
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
So should we only let 18yo's have a fraction of the rights of a full adult because they're new?

Of course there needs to be some kind of process to ensure new recruits are up to scratch and can be removed if they aren't capable or take the piss but I don't see why that should mean they have fewer rights elsewhere. And usually those that are there to take the piss will wait until the end of probation and start doing it, so should we extend probation to prevent that? How long? A year? Two years? Five? Ten?
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You can extend probationary periods in most contracts. Again, as discussed yesterday, it’s the unintended consequences of a lot of these suggestions to protect others that people don’t consider.

Why would i as a small business take a risk on someone who I think could be right for the role but maybe doesn’t have the relevant experience or qualifications, if I know it’s going to be hard to remove them if they can’t deliver ? I’m saying this from personal experience of taking on younger people, maybe from outside the industry I worked in.

99% of employers don’t want to be getting rid of someone after 3 or 6 months after training and integrating them and then having to go through the ballache, time and cost of recruiting again.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,317
PVA said:
Boomers have had it so tough


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At least we don’t need content advisory warnings before Midsommer Murders.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,318
Be interesting to see how our cross channel migrant traffic develops if the right wingers get hold of power in France. I have a feeling what we are seeing today is going to be a drop in the ocean compared to what they will send. With Germany tightening rules on migration as well and the UK likely getting a Socialist government…….
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,319
Ashdown said:
Be interesting to see how our cross channel migrant traffic develops if the right wingers get hold of power in France. I have a feeling what we are seeing today is going to be a drop in the ocean compared to what they will send. With Germany tightening rules on migration as well and the UK likely getting a Socialist government…….
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Socialist government! Starmers Labour, haha!
And I thought a tory government and brexit was supposed to sort out immigration anyway?
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,320
Ashdown said:
Be interesting to see how our cross channel migrant traffic develops if the right wingers get hold of power in France. I have a feeling what we are seeing today is going to be a drop in the ocean compared to what they will send. With Germany tightening rules on migration as well and the UK likely getting a Socialist government…….
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Drop in the ocean

Don't worry, Sir Keir will sort it.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,321
clint van damme said:
Socialist government! Starmers Labour, haha!
And I thought a tory government and brexit was supposed to sort out immigration anyway?
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Would have stood a chance if we had left the European court on human rights.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,322
MalcSB said:
Would have stood a chance if we had left the European court on human rights.
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Bloody human rights!
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,323
clint van damme said:
Bloody human rights!
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What did they ever do for us?

I remember the days when you could be racist and abusive and others laughed along, not like nowadays when these wokes even stop the likes of Fritzl bringing up his children how he sees fit.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,324
MalcSB said:
Would have stood a chance if we had left the European court on human rights.
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Might’ve made a small difference with the boat crossings but those numbers don’t really move the dial

The issue has been post Brexit there was no plan around the employment requirements for certain industries and then really lax visa controls/implementation of these in certain areas. For example allowing dependents (and spouses I think) for student visas was just crazy when you’re trying to get the net number down

This is a Tory problem, they’ve focussed all their attention ‘stop the boats’ while not implementing a proper system tied in with industry and education requirements. Always makes me laugh as Bravermann the anti immigrant, oversaw record number of ‘legal’ arrivals …shambles

Unfortunately for us all this inability to address/resolve the issue has meant Farage/reform have been able to rear their ugly heads again
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,325
CCFCSteve said:
Might’ve made a small difference with the boat crossings but those numbers don’t really move the dial

The issue has been post Brexit there was no plan around the employment requirements for certain industries and then really lax visa controls/implementation of these in certain areas. For example allowing dependents (and spouses I think) for student visas was just crazy when you’re trying to get the net number down

This is a Tory problem, they’ve focussed all their attention ‘stop the boats’ while not implementing a proper system tied in with industry and education requirements. Always makes me laugh as Bravermann the anti immigrant, oversaw record number of ‘legal’ arrivals …shambles

Unfortunately for us all this inability to address/resolve the issue has meant Farage/reform have been able to rear their ugly heads again
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Would also put us in with that select band of countries not signed up, Russia and Belarus!
Not sure the optics on that look very good.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,326
Deleted member 5849 said:
What did they ever do for us?

I remember the days when you could be racist and abusive and others laughed along, not like nowadays when these wokes even stop the likes of Fritzl bringing up his children how he sees fit.
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You are utterly obsessed with that ridiculously overused term racist. You always have been. Used in the right context at genuine bigots is fine but some of your ilk use it at anyone who want to discuss migration, positive discrimination , terrorism, population explosion, effects of migration on health services or even health issues ….and many other topics.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,327
clint van damme said:
Would also put us in with that select band of countries not signed up, Russia and Belarus!
Not sure the optics on that look very good.
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The UK is just a tad different To Russia and Belarus, well, for now anyway.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,328
MalcSB said:
The UK is just a tad different To Russia and Belarus, well, for now anyway.
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More corrupt?!
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,329
clint van damme said:
Haha!

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He’s such a snowflake. Sue these people, sack that person. It’s cancel culture gone mad.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,330
PVA said:
Leaving the ECHR is just the Right's next magic unicorn, the new Brexit.

'Leave this organisation and we'll all be so much better off - no more brown people, green and pleasant lands, it'll be like the 1960s again'

Didn't work with Brexit but definitely will this time.
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The boats don’t even have anything to do with it, that’s just the bogey man. They don’t like the plebs having too many rights. That’s the real reason they wanted Brexit and that’s why they want this. They just need an angle to trick the plebs.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,331
MalcSB said:
Would have stood a chance if we had left the European court on human rights.
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You do know it’s not an accident that the numbers went up exponentially when we left the EU. We left the Dublin agreement, that was the deterrent. Brexit waved the green flag by taking us out of the Dublin agreement.

Plus, why do you hate Churchill so much that you want to take a huge shit on his legacy?

All that will happen if we leave the ECHR is they’ll have protection from the UNHCR. What then? Leave the UN? NATO is involved in the refugee crisis including assisting with the safe landing of refugees and distribution among members. We best leave NATO too. If we listen to the idiots we’ll sleepwalk into being an isolated pariah state such as North Korea, Iran etc.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,332
MalcSB said:
The UK is just a tad different To Russia and Belarus, well, for now anyway.
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But that’s the direction of travel that’s interests you.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,333

Day 17: Welfare​

Click here to listen to an audio recording of this reflection.​
Luke 3.10-14

'Whoever has two coats must share with anyone who has none; and whoever has food must do likewise.’
Some of us are fortunate enough never to have been in serious need. For others, not having enough is a daily reality.

The reasons why people find themselves in debt or poverty, or simply struggling to make ends meet, are complicated and varied. People who experience homelessness at some point in their lives speak of the sudden, unexpected and devastating tipping-point which landed them where they are now.

Those of us who are privileged to be financially secure, at least for now, are lured into believing the ‘myth of scarcity’. This tells us that we must hold onto everything we have, for fear that tomorrow we won’t have enough. But there is a difference between managing what we have wisely and living selfishly.

As we pray today for a just and fair society, let’s pray, too, that we may we let go of our fears and commit to living generously.
​
Heal the sick in body and mind,
and provide for the homeless,
the hungry and the destitute.
Hear us, good Lord.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,334
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I wouldn’t have them replaced with anything, a new worker should have the same rights as ones who have been with the employer for longer.
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If you’ve ever managed people you’ll know that this doesn’t work in theory. In reality it’s there to get rid of those not up to the job who’ve managed to lie/bullshit their way through the interview process.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,335
Deleted member 9744 said:
And even they don't believe that it will be anything like socialism.
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Express thinks it will and telegraph and times and mail and sun lol and the tories and reform all think starmer is socialism on acid
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,336
Sick Boy said:
If you’ve ever managed people you’ll know that this doesn’t work in theory. In reality it’s there to get rid of those not up to the job who’ve managed to lie/bullshit their way through the interview process.
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Surely the real answer is make it possible to sack people for poor performance regardless of how long they’ve been there?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,337
Sky Blue Pete said:
Express thinks it will and telegraph and times and mail and sun lol and the tories and reform all think starmer is socialism on acid
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Apparently the Sunday Times has endorsed Labour today. So either the Sunday Times has turned into a socialist rag or Labour under Starmer really isn’t that socialists after all.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,338
shmmeee said:
Surely the real answer is make it possible to sack people for poor performance regardless of how long they’ve been there?
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Then it really would be abused
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,339
clint van damme said:
More corrupt?!
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Don’t be so fucking ridiculous. The UK isn’t a kleptocracy or run by a psychopathic megalomaniac with rigged elections,

Not yet, anyway.
 

MalcSB

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  • Jun 30, 2024
  • #39,340
skybluetony176 said:
But that’s the direction of travel that’s interests you.
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Fuck off. I don’t want to be governed by a megalomaniac who invades other countries to give his people something other than domestic issues to worry about.
 
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