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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (20 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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MalcSB said:
Beer was 10p a pint when I was a lad, not £6 plus. Should people today feel disadvantaged? It’s the way things have panned out.
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‘I’m alright Jack’ thinking then.
 

MalcSB

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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Many people in those days scrimped and saved to buy a house so that they had something tangible to leave to their heirs. Who now criticise the process,
 

MalcSB

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,203
Brighton Sky Blue said:
‘I’m alright Jack’ thinking then.
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I didn’t say that, I was asking if people today should feel disadvantaged because beer has gone up in price.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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MalcSB said:
Many people in those days scrimped and saved to buy a house so that they had something tangible to leave to their heirs. Who now criticise the process,
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You speak as though my wife and I didn’t scrimp and save to pay a deposit about 10 times the value of the house my grandparents bought.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,205
MalcSB said:
Many people in those days scrimped and saved to buy a house so that they had something tangible to leave to their heirs. Who now criticise the process,
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He even seems to resent his own grandparents - it’s tragic really
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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MalcSB said:
Beer was 10p a pint when I was a lad, not £6 plus. Should people today feel disadvantaged?
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Yep!
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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Boomers have had it so tough


 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
You speak as though my wife and I didn’t scrimp and save to pay a deposit about 10 times the value of the house my grandparents bought.
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Buy a cheaper house in a poorer area then and do it up
 

MalcSB

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,209
Actually, fuck it.

I AM alright Jack. Do you know why? Because I worked bloody hard in a stressful job, working 50% hours on top of my contract unpaid, climbing back up the ladder after three redundancies and finally retiring at 67, paying shed loads of tax along the way.

And I’ve just decided I am not ashamed of that.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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Grendel said:
He even seems to resent his own grandparents - it’s tragic really
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It is indeed.
 

MalcSB

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,211
PVA said:
Boomers have had it so tough


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The politics of envy is never far from a socialist’s heart.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,212
MalcSB said:
Actually, fuck it.

I AM alright Jack. Do you know why? Because I worked bloody hard in a stressful job, working 50% hours on top of my contract unpaid, climbing back up the ladder after three redundancies and finally retiring at 67, paying shed loads of tax along the way.

And I’ve just decided I am not ashamed of that.
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There it is.

Young people just need to work hard.

Boomers gonna boom.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,213
MalcSB said:
Actually, fuck it.

I AM alright Jack. Do you know why? Because I worked bloody hard in a stressful job, working 50% hours on top of my contract unpaid, climbing back up the ladder after three redundancies and finally retiring at 67, paying shed loads of tax along the way.

And I’ve just decided I am not ashamed of that.
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Yep I’m 59 and my parents never even owned a house.

My first house was a rather grim flat which I was paying over 50% of my income on a 15% interest and I ended up £5 grand (15% of its value) in negative equity. I had two jobs to pay the mortgage.

The victim mentality is pathetic
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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MalcSB said:
The politics of envy is never far from a socialist’s heart.
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Despite your repeated attempts in this thread to boast I am not envious or jealous.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,215
PVA said:
There it is.

Young people just need to work hard.

Boomers gonna boom.
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Everyone has to work hard - unless of course they are given a seat on the board at their parents business and benefit from selective education
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,216
MalcSB said:
Actually, fuck it.

I AM alright Jack. Do you know why? Because I worked bloody hard in a stressful job, working 50% hours on top of my contract unpaid, climbing back up the ladder after three redundancies and finally retiring at 67, paying shed loads of tax along the way.

And I’ve just decided I am not ashamed of that.
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And you speak as though the people here don’t work hard currently. Nobody is trying to invalidate the life’s work of past generations.

But it’s a well accepted reality that my generation is the first one to find itself worse off economically than the one before.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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PVA said:
Despite your repeated attempts in this thread to boast I am not envious or jealous.
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How is he boasting?
 

MalcSB

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,218
PVA said:
There it is.

Young people just need to work hard.

Boomers gonna boom.
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You have got it in one.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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Grendel said:
Everyone has to work hard - unless of course they are given a seat on the board at their parents business and benefit from selective education
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Good for them.
 

MalcSB

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,220
PVA said:
Despite your repeated attempts in this thread to boast I am not envious or jealous.
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Point me to where I have boasted, please.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,221
MalcSB said:
You have got it in one.
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I would have a little spin in my £78,000 Mercedes but sadly i have had a couple of drinks so ill stay at home and gloat
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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Grendel said:
He even seems to resent his own grandparents - it’s tragic really
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You couldn’t be more wrong. Pretty offensive statement that.
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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Deleted member 9744 said:
I think by the time most of us get there the state pension won't exist.
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Don't worry, a couple of decades of socialism will ensure you're ok.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
You couldn’t be more wrong. Pretty offensive statement that.
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You should perhaps look how resentful and offensive as well as bitter and jealous you actually come across.

Perhaps rather than whine about what you haven’t got write a gratuity list as to what you have and some of this burning resentment may be released
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,225
Brighton Sky Blue said:
And you speak as though the people here don’t work hard currently. Nobody is trying to invalidate the life’s work of past generations.

But it’s a well accepted reality that my generation is the first one to find itself worse off economically than the one before.
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I’m pointing out that I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,226
MalcSB said:
I’m pointing out that I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth, or up my nose.
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Or like him was afforded the opportunity of a private education
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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Well tis thread is going a bit weird for a change
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,228
MalcSB said:
I’m pointing out that I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
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Me neither, lived on a council estate up to the age of 11, went to Grammar School. Started my own business at 32 and done rather well since then.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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MalcSB said:
I’m pointing out that I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
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Nobody said you were. Nor that I loathe my grandparents.

However, the example of their house value is just a striking one that shows how house prices have risen much further than inflation with big consequences for people renting and buying today.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,230
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Nobody said you were. Nor that I loathe my grandparents.

However, the example of their house value is just a striking one that shows how house prices have risen much further than inflation with big consequences for people renting and buying today.
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They still will and when you are old your property will be worth millions. Will you be giving it to your offspring or the homeless centre up the road.

I wonder
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,231
MalcSB said:
Actually, fuck it.

I AM alright Jack. Do you know why? Because I worked bloody hard in a stressful job, working 50% hours on top of my contract unpaid, climbing back up the ladder after three redundancies and finally retiring at 67, paying shed loads of tax along the way.

And I’ve just decided I am not ashamed of that.
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People work hard today and pay tax the same as you did, you doing unpaid work is not virtuous and you're hardly unique in that
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2024
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Grendel said:
Or like him was afforded the opportunity of a private education
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I paid toward my own fees and then paid back a fair bit once I started earning. Not that I actually had a say in where I went to school mind you
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,233
Genuinely surprised at the pessimism on here. You're about to get the government you want with effectively no opposition. It's likely they will govern for at least a decade.
Why are you not looking forward with unbridled optimism?
Is it because you know that socialism wont significantly improve your life?
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,234
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I paid toward my own fees and then paid back a fair bit once I started earning. Not that I actually had a say in where I went to school mind you
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I refused to go to Bablake when I passed my 11 plus. You must have had a good job at 11 to contribute
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 29, 2024
  • #39,235
SIR ERNIE said:
Genuinely surprised at the pessimism on here. You're about to get the government you want with effectively no opposition. It's likely they will government for at least a decade.
Why are you not looking forward with unbridled optimism?
Is it because you know that socialism wont significantly improve your life?
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The thing is Ernie, nobody except shmmeee and PVA are getting the government they really want.
 
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