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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (16 Viewers)

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,641
Still not worried

 
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wingy

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,642
Sky Blue Pete said:
Still not worried

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Joke!!
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,643
wingy said:
Joke!!
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I know it’s a nonsense poll
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,644
Sky Blue Pete said:
Still not worried

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Jesus wept
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,645
The man campaigning to break up the country and build a big fence at Gretna is unhappy about politics becoming polarised.

Look in the mirror
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,646
Sky Blue Pete said:
Still not worried

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Could be an outlier but this is worth exploring more.
 

SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,647
5 mins watching and Starmer's all over the place in this leaders debate. Embarrassing.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,648
SIR ERNIE said:
5 mins watching and Starmer's all over the place in this leaders debate. Embarrassing.
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Yeah course
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,649
Sunak going full Boris and telling us how angry he is at the behaviour of his MP’s and staff. Just waiting for the headline to break that Sunak had a bet on it too.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,650
F*ck me. I swear if anyone votes Tories after this debate


The biggest thing they had against Starmer was Corbyn. F*ck me, are people this f*cking dense?

Sent from my M2101K6G using Tapatalk
 
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Skybluekyle

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,651
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The man campaigning to break up the country and build a big fence at Gretna is unhappy about politics becoming polarised.

Look in the mirror
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Genuinely read this as "build a big fence around Greta".

Was going to say, I know she's a bit annoying but that's a bit extreme
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,652
 
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duffer

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,653
MalcSB said:
We have had Labour governments before, and politicians attendance at private schools is not limited to the Tories,didn’t Tony Blair attend Fettes?
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No argument from me.

One of the major issues in this country, imho, is a severe lack of social mobility and the disproportionately high proportion of privately educated Oxbridge graduates in positions of power and influence. This applies to both parties, though I suspect is more evident in the Tories.

If you're looking for a reason why private schools have charitable status and unique tax breaks, maybe that has something to do with it.
 
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Como

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,654
Greta seems to have disappeared from the MSM cycle, lost her relevance?
 

Como

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  • Jun 20, 2024
  • #38,655
duffer said:
No argument from me.

One of the major issues in this country, imho, is a severe lack of social mobility and the disproportionately high proportion of privately educated Oxbridge graduates in positions of power and influence. This applies to both parties, though I suspect is more evident in the Tories.

If you're looking for a reason why private schools have charitable status and unique tax breaks, maybe that has something to do with it.
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Technically Public Schools.

I am not aware of any European Country that taxes education so this would be a Brexit first!
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,656
duffer said:
No argument from me.

One of the major issues in this country, imho, is a severe lack of social mobility and the disproportionately high proportion of privately educated Oxbridge graduates in positions of power and influence. This applies to both parties, though I suspect is more evident in the Tories.

If you're looking for a reason why private schools have charitable status and unique tax breaks, maybe that has something to do with it.
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Or it could just be that education was seen as a good thing. Perhaps VAT should be added to books.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,657
MalcSB said:
Or it could just be that education was seen as a good thing. Perhaps VAT should be added to books.
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The forum’s answer to Liz Kendall wouldn’t like that, that’s for sure.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,658
Rumours of a reform and Tory pact
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,659
Sky Blue Pete said:
Still not worried

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Mate, People Polling are comedy gold.

It's a weird right wing fella who runs it and their last poll had the SNP{ getting no votes at all and PC getting votes in England.

File under pish
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,660
Sky Blue Pete said:
Rumours of a reform and Tory pact
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They can't, it's too late for candidates to be removed from the ballot
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,661
Sky Blue Pete said:
Rumours of a reform and Tory pact
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Ooh!!
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,662
David O'Day said:
Mate, People Polling are comedy gold.

It's a weird right wing fella who runs it and their last poll had the SNP{ getting no votes at all and PC getting votes in England.

File under pish
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On some of these polls you can put your own methodology in to manipulate the numbers. Lee Anderson has just been caught out doing it claiming he’ll win by a landslide so there’s no point voting anymore else, if you read the small print it it says something along the methodology is user defined.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,663
David O'Day said:
They can't, it's too late for candidates to be removed from the ballot
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Doesn’t stop a pact
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,664
I know you’re all waiting

Here you go


Day 8: The NHS​

Click here to listen to an audio recording of this reflection.​
Isaiah 65.20

'No more shall there be in it an infant that lives but a few days or an old person who does not live out a lifetime … ’
The prophet Isaiah sets out a vision of a safe and stable society. Here, people can put down roots and build good lives. They know that in this place, they and their families can flourish and enjoy life to the full.

But even in the most caring and well-established society, anyone can become vulnerable at any time, through accident or ill health. How we care for the sick is a measure of the level of compassion we have built into the structures of our society.

We in the UK are deeply fortunate to have inherited the National Health Service from our forebears.

As we pray for its staff and work today and for its future flourishing, let us remember that the work of the NHS reflects our love for one another.
​
Give all who work in healthcare
your compassion, skill and wisdom.
Be their strength and their shield
as they give of themselves in the care of others.
Hear us, good Lord.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,665
Sky Blue Pete said:
Doesn’t stop a pact
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Define a pact, they can stop campaigning in certain areas and ask people to vote the other way but they’ll still be on the ballot
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,666
Sky Blue Pete said:
Rumours of a reform and Tory pact
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If they do make an informal pact, expect Farage to be parachuted in to lead the Tories after the election.
 
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fatso

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,667
Be hilarious to see the Torys coming third.

In all honesty we all know there's only 1 pole that counts.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,668
fatso said:
Be hilarious to see the Torys coming third.

In all honesty we all know there's only 1 pole that counts.
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I can’t decide what would be funnier. Sunak winning his seat or Sunak losing his seat. He clearly wants out, it’s the only possible explanation. If he wins his seat by election within 12 months would be a good bet.
 
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fatso

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,669
skybluetony176 said:
I can’t decide what would be funnier. Sunak winning his seat or Sunak losing his seat. He clearly wants out, it’s the only possible explanation. If he wins his seat by election within 12 months would be a good bet.
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Sunak losing his seat would be an ignominious end to his political career.
But let's be honest here. He was never voted in by the electorate as PM and neither was Truss, so they never really had a mandate from the people.

And yes I'm fully aware that we vote for a party rather than an Individual, but when Boris and his cohorts were ousted there should of been a general election called straight away, as his whole manifesto disappeared with him.

No one voted for Trussenomics!
 
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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,670
fatso said:
In all honesty we all know there's only 1 pole that counts.
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Pole dancer?
 
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fatso

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,671
Deleted member 5849 said:
Pole dancer?
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Poll, fu@£ING auto correct!
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,672
fatso said:
Sunak losing his seat would be an ignominious end to his political career.
But let's be honest here. He was never voted in by the electorate as PM and neither was Truss, so they never really had a mandate from the people.

And yes I'm fully aware that we vote for a party rather than an Individual, but when Boris and his cohorts were ousted there should of been a general election called straight away, as his whole manifesto disappeared with him.

No one voted for Trussenomics!
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Even if you consider that she was voted in by her party more people in the UK voted for the postmen to go on strike than voted for Truss to be PM. Not sure how true it is but I do recall reading that you don’t have to be either a UK citizen and/or live in the UK to be a Tory party member. She could have been voted in by Russia for all we know.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,673
There is zero requirement for a PM to be elected by the electorate- why this is an obsession for some I have no idea
 
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fatso

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,674
skybluetony176 said:
Even if you consider that she was voted in by her party more people in the UK voted for the postmen to go on strike than voted for Truss to be PM. Not sure how true it is but I do recall reading that you don’t have to be either a UK citizen and/or live in the UK to be a Tory party member. She could have been voted in by Russia for all we know.
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I remember when Sunak got the top job, all the press were shouting about him being the first British Asian to become PM, but I kept saying he's an illegitimate PM, he was not, and never has been voted in and endorsed by the electorate, and neither was Truss before him, and yet we claim to be a democracy.

Imo it's simple, if a governing party vote out their leader who was elected by the people, it should immediately trigger a general election.

And the same applies to MP's who cross the floor, it should imediately trigger a by-election in their constituency.
 
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fatso

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  • Jun 21, 2024
  • #38,675
Grendel said:
There is zero requirement for a PM to be elected by the electorate- why this is an obsession for some I have no idea
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Because it absolutely SHOULD be a requirement.
 
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