Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Plus Johnson's early morning hungover flights from Italy.
Plus Johnson's early morning hungover flights from Italy.So ironic after Russia's supposed meddling in the Brexit referendum and support for Trump.
Slippery slope. How much would a £16K loan cost, do you think? And that would just be for one year's schooling.
And the fact they literally put the son of a KGB spy in the House of Lords.So ironic after Russia's supposed meddling in the Brexit referendum and support for Trump.
As with health and indeed all public services the solution is to fund them properly. It certainly is not to encourage the private sector to take over things which should be in public hands and which will perpetuates inequality.Exactly. That’s why there are people out there criticising the policy because people will drop out from the private sector and the state sector will pick up the burden.
If the state sector is understaffed, underfunded and overcrowded, the last thing you want to do is push people from the private sector to the state sector.
It might sound counterintuitive, but it’s a moment in time where you probably want to incentivise the private sector for education and healthcare.
There’s definitely a lot of spite regarding this topic and others. If people can afford better, they should somehow be punished for that.Just checking that my posts with the calculations are visible as they just get ignored while people make up other random numbers?
It seems more like a spite thing, thought it was about bringing everybody up rather than dragging everybody down?
I don't think it's a spite thing. Not from me. If people can afford it, then great. I'm just disagreeing that an "average" family could afford to send their child(ren) to public school. I certainly don't think a take home household income of £60K pa is "average".Just checking that my posts with the calculations are visible as they just get ignored while people make up other random numbers?
It seems more like a spite thing, thought it was about bringing everybody up rather than dragging everybody down?
I was thinking the same but I guess when you write so much, it's inevitable in the end one thing will turn out to be sensible.About the first thing I've agreed with you on
It's not about spite. It's about caring about fairness and equality of opportunity.There’s definitely a lot of spite regarding this topic and others. If people can afford better, they should somehow be punished for that.
Really, these people are doing the taxpayer a favour because the state doesn’t need to pay for their children’s education.
Fuck me. They're getting really desperate now. It really is gutter politics from the cunts.
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I don't think it's a spite thing. Not from me. If people can afford it, then great. I'm just disagreeing that an "average" family could afford to send their child(ren) to public school. I certainly don't think a take home household income of £60K pa is "average".
Plus tax relief will go when Labour get in power so there'll be another 20% on top.
It's not about spite. It's about caring about fairness and equality of opportunity.
Putting a Russian in the House of Lords against the advice of security services whose family also happens to be under sanctions in almost every other western country but us.Plus Johnson's early morning hungover flights from Italy.
Just subside it with a tax break.There’s definitely a lot of spite regarding this topic and others. If people can afford better, they should somehow be punished for that.
Really, these people are doing the taxpayer a favour because the state doesn’t need to pay for their children’s education.
Just subside it with a tax break.
Or security detail.Fucking hell.
Have they conveniently forgotten that Boris Johnson went straight from a NATO meeting about Russia to a party hosted by an ex KGB agent without any other officials
By not paying VAT on a luxury.How do a normal couple get a tax break?
Even when the 20% tax relief is scrapped after Labour get in?You keep saying about 60k take home, i have literally shown the workings out and it is based on 2 parents earning 30k each before tax.
Yes, with sacrifices for 1 kid it's doable.
By not paying VAT on a luxury.
As with health and indeed all public services the solution is to fund them properly. It certainly is not to encourage the private sector to take over things which should be in public hands and which will perpetuates inequality.
Even when the 20% tax relief is scrapped after Labour get in?
That makes no sense.It is about spite, like I said, people can make sacrifices and do it off each parent earning 30k at a school like Henrys.
If it's about getting into Eton, I'd agree with you that it's about the super elite.
There's a difference.
That makes no sense.
It's not about the cost as far as i am concerned. I just don't agree with private education on principle nor private healthcare. These are services which should be available to everyone equally. Private education perpetuates inequality and privilege.
By not paying VAT on a luxury.
How are they pointless? And the solution is to fund state education properly. It's bizarre that some people are happy to pay massive fees to private organisations but baulk at paying modest tax increases.Some people opt to use them because the other options are pointless.
Sending them to Dubai I heard still don't help my daughter!No idea, as I guess nobody knows if / what will happen.
It really does sound like a spiteful thing; it's quite funny, really. I'm guessing many parents will do their best to find a way for their kids rather than whinging about it not being fair. If not, they will probably take them out and whack them in a state school, just making classroom sizes even bigger.
By not paying VAT on a luxury.
How are they pointless? And the solution is to fund state education properly. It's bizarre that some people are happy to pay massive fees to private organisations but baulk at paying modest tax increases.
Why is state education/healthcare pointless?Some people opt to use them because the other options are pointless.
People send their children to private school in large part because they’ll get better quality teaching in better facilities and generally smaller class sizes.I can't remember anybody saying "Look, give us a couple of hundred extra a month and we will make the local schools and hospitals top notch".
Maybe people just get on with it and try and do their best and realise that whinging about Starmer / Sunak isn't actually going to change their kid's education in the foreseeable future?
Why is state education/healthcare pointless?
People send their children to private school in large part because they’ll get better quality teaching in better facilities and generally smaller class sizes.
So if the government really gave a shit it would commit to making that more of a reality in the state sector.
£16kpa extra tax on people with a combined income of £60k would certainly go a long way towards that.I'm sure if that happened then there would be a lot less appeal for parents to send their kids to private schools.
The answer is to fund all schools and the health service, and indeed all public services properly. That's what we should be seeking from our politicians. Of course that means paying more tax, but most people are better off in those circumstances and society is fairer and works better. Crime is lower in more equal societies too. But we have a narrow minded view about tax in this country and we have useless politicians as a result who concentrate on the wrong things like promising austerity and tax cuts rather than delivering improvements.I can't remember anybody saying "Look, give us a couple of hundred extra a month and we will make the local schools and hospitals top notch".
Maybe people just get on with it and try and do their best and realise that whinging about Starmer / Sunak isn't actually going to change their kid's education in the foreseeable future?
In the examples Im on about, somebody saw their kid stagnating at school, sat there while the teachers focused on kids who were naughty or struggling (which isn't the kids fault if they struggle). Shouting at Sunak or Starmer isn't going to change that.
The options are move house closer to better schools / private / home education.
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