Grendel
Well-Known Member
Starmer has said his only issue with Rwanda is cost and that he would freely consider sending asylum seekers to a another country for processing. Blair considered building detentions centres on remote Scottish Islands.
It's a sign of how far politics has moved to the right in recent years if they are seen as moderate. I see no difference between Farage, Braverman and co and the hard right in Europe.
As for Sunak, he appointed Braverman as Home Secretary. Also his chief policy is about sending asylum seekers to an African country apparently contrary to international law. Feels pretty far right to me.
Starmer has said his only issue with Rwanda is cost and that he would freely consider sending asylum seekers to an another country for processing. Blair considered building detentions centres on remote Scottish Islands.
It’s a fair question. Probably a bit of both. Politicians can’t solve everything but can at least try to address some concerns/issues that flow from globalisation. On the flip side, we as populations, can’t expect all the benefits and none of the negatives
You seem to be suggesting i am some sort of Starmer fan.Starmer has said his only issue with Rwanda is cost and that he would freely consider sending asylum seekers to a another country for processing. Blair considered building detentions centres on remote Scottish Islands.
You still haven't explained the difference between Farage and far right in Europe, or Braverman or Sunak.No coincidence that most of the EU countries are considering this too. Australia processes asylum seekers in 3rd countries as well and no one would consider that country ‘far right’.
It’s an issue affecting Europe and the wider anglophone world and if unchecked, it will fester into something more ugly and toxic.
You seem to be suggesting i am some sort of Starmer fan.
Of course it doesn't. Nowhere has he said that he supports a policy of forcibly sending asylum seekers to Rwanda. Sunak leads a Government that has expended considerable energy and resource into trying to achieve this.No but by your logic he is far right. To suggest that immigration was not an issue before Farage is laughable.
I’ll humour you, first, how would you define ‘far right?’You still haven't explained the difference between Farage and far right in Europe, or Braverman or Sunak.
You're the one who said if we don't do something about immigration we will get far right politicians here like in Europe. So I am asking how these far right ones differ from our own.I’ll humour you, first, how would you define ‘far right?’
He’s going to offer you a textbook next.You're the one who said if we don't do something about immigration we will get far right politicians here like in Europe. So I am asking how these far right ones differ from our own.
He keeps avoiding the question. Also has failed three times to say how we recruit enough doctors, nurses and social care workers without immigration.He’s going to offer you a textbook next.
On the topic of the New Deal, you actually needed one!He’s going to offer you a textbook next.
Hard disagree my mad friendOn the topic of the New Deal, you actually needed one!
You're the one who said if we don't do something about immigration we will get far right politicians here like in Europe. So I am asking how these far right ones differ from our own.
Reform actively kicks out members with racist and neo-Nazi/fascist pasts.
Of course it doesn't. Nowhere has he said that he supports a policy of forcibly sending asylum seekers to Rwanda. Sunak leads a Government that has expended considerable energy and resource into trying to achieve this.
Duh. Blair is obviously far right.You suggested immigration wasn’t an issue before. Blair in 2004 looked at sending asylum seekers to Tanzania.
Duh. Blair is obviously far right.
How do Farage and Reform 's policies differ from those groups?It’s not helpful when you choose to not define what you call far right.
The big difference is that Nigel Farage is an ex-Tory, whereas the National Rally and Brother’s of Italy have their roots in neo-nazi/fascist movements. That’s a starting point. The AfD, started as a breakup from the CDU and supposedly held talks with neo-nazi groups to lead mass deportations.
Reform actively kicks out members with racist and neo-Nazi/fascist pasts. The party still attracts deplorables. The Greens of all parties have had to stand candidates down over anti-Semitic posts/comments. Nigel Farage himself fancies himself as the heir to Thatcher claiming he was the only politician “keeping the flame of Thatcherism alive”.
I wouldn’t describe Farage or Reform as far-right - personally wouldn’t vote for them.
Yea these gotchas are annoying. I don't know how much dog food costs and I own a dog, I also couldn't tell you how much a pint of milk costs either for that matter...Can we stop the stupid “can you remember this exact figure” questioning? It’s entirely designed to clip for social media and not at all relevant. That includes “Jeremy Hunt doesn’t know how much dog food costs” or whatever.
Big overarching policy questions sure, but this level of stuff is just dumb and adds nothing. The media gets no scrutiny on how fucking awful it as at its job.
I can tell you two pints is £1.20 in Tesco or Aldi, and £1.45 for four pints.Yea these gotchas are annoying. I don't know how much dog food costs and I own a dog, I also couldn't tell you how much a pint of milk costs either for that matter...
Yea these gotchas are annoying. I don't know how much dog food costs and I own a dog, I also couldn't tell you how much a pint of milk costs either for that matter...
No excuse for that,it lasts for ages,in fact long enough to speculate on it!I can tell you two pints is £1.20 in Tesco or Aldi, and £1.45 for four pints.
So there.
I can also think that encourages milk waste, and only Farage will sort that out like the man he is.
Yes but you’re not running for Prime Minister. I expect my PM to not only know the “price of milk” but the price at each individual shop in Britain.
I do agree about the ridiculous amount of flat car parks that take up the hospital footprint, but I did hear there re problems with MSCP's there because of the proximity to the river and the weight of the buildings and cars in a small area.Speaking of flat car parks. Look at the multi-storey at UHCW that was rejected because it would ruins the views of residents. Next to a massive fucking hospital.
I mean look at this, must be 60% of the land is flat car parks. Insanity.
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Got recommended this. See the night and day difference between him and his wet lettuce tribute act.
I do agree about the ridiculous amount of flat car parks that take up the hospital footprint, but I did hear there re problems with MSCP's there because of the proximity to the river and the weight of the buildings and cars in a small area.
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