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torchomatic

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,031
Sky Blue Pete said:
What is it that 1 in 5 see in Farage?

An arrogant liar born with a silver spoon in his mouth and who gives a shit about nothing and no one
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There's a few on here who admire him. Maybe they'll tell us.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,032
Deleted member 5849 said:
When it comes to it, expect a load of those Reform to turn back Tory
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nah, they hate the tories
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,033
skybluetony176 said:
Even then I wouldn’t be surprised if a deal is done with the Tories post election that means Reform MP’s become Tories. I don’t think it would be a merger as such, more an agreement to defect and then close the Reform Party. Especially if it’s the difference between Tories being in opposition or the Lib Dem’s being in opposition. Even more especially if Farage is elected to parliament.
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what reform MPs? there won't be many unless something major changes
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,034
torchomatic said:
Yeah, this has really pissed me off. MY son has just turned 18 and can't vote as he doesn't have a DL - he doesn't have the co-ordination to drive - or a passport (our fault that), so no photo ID. The cases or election fraud are teeny tiny. They just introduced legislation to stop young people voting for Labour.
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Apply for photo ID to vote (called a ‘Voter Authority Certificate’)

Apply for photo ID to vote (Voter Authority Certificate) in some elections and referendums in Great Britain if you do not have an accepted form of ID.
www.gov.uk

Think he can sort one of these
 
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torchomatic

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,035
CCFCSteve said:
Man of the people

To be fair, as well as obviously playing on people’s fears, he’s a very good communicator, even if the substance behind it is questionable

I’m not sure Sunak and Starmer, or a lot of politicians, have that ability to connect with normal people. Starmer made sure he’s got some good communicators is his shadow cabinet though. It shouldn’t be as important as it is but in this day and age it’s essential
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He doesn't connect with "normal" people. He connects with bigots.
 

torchomatic

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,036
CCFCSteve said:

Apply for photo ID to vote (called a ‘Voter Authority Certificate’)

Apply for photo ID to vote (Voter Authority Certificate) in some elections and referendums in Great Britain if you do not have an accepted form of ID.
www.gov.uk

Think he can sort one of these
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Thank you! Didn't think of that.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,037
torchomatic said:
He doesn't connect with "normal" people. He connects with bigots.
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I don’t think it’s just them. Your average man on the street (not sure about women so much - bet most think he’s a bit creepy) seem to quite like him, same as Johnson.

Not my cup of tea but as I say, he’s a good communicator so can speak to people in a way which many politicians can’t. A lot of it’s an act and just telling people what they want to hear, but it seems to work for him
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,038
David O'Day said:
what reform MPs? there won't be many unless something major changes
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Based on the most recent poll they’re predicted to get 3. That could be the difference between a Tory or Lib Dem opposition. You also can’t rule out Farage’s ambition to be the Tory Leader. Assuming he can win Clacton.

I think in reality though NW is probably right. A lot of people saying that they will vote reform will change their mind nearer the time or on the day. Tactically in most seats if you want to stop your MP being Labour or Lib Dem then Tory is your tactical vote in most cases with the possible exception of the seat Farage is standing in.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,039
Great idea not to tell us what the food concerned is

Urgent health warning after E.coli outbreak linked to 'nationally distributed food item'

The UK Health Security Agency didn't name the food item thought to be responsible for the outbreak of E.coli but it has hospitalised around 37 people in England already.
news.sky.com
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,040
CCFCSteve said:

Apply for photo ID to vote (called a ‘Voter Authority Certificate’)

Apply for photo ID to vote (Voter Authority Certificate) in some elections and referendums in Great Britain if you do not have an accepted form of ID.
www.gov.uk

Think he can sort one of these
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torchomatic said:
He doesn't connect with "normal" people. He connects with bigots.
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I read these in order without noticing the post quoted. Thought torch was being a bit harsh on his own son!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,041
I don’t get it
He speaks over people
Doesn’t answer the questions asked
Argues
Confronts
Doesn’t listen
Is combative
Not all skills of a good communicator
CCFCSteve said:
Man of the people

To be fair, as well as obviously playing on people’s fears, he’s a very good communicator, even if the substance behind it is questionable

I’m not sure Sunak and Starmer, or a lot of politicians, have that ability to connect with normal people. Starmer made sure he’s got some good communicators is his shadow cabinet though. It shouldn’t be as important as it is but in this day and age it’s essential
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,042
clint van damme said:
Great idea not to tell us what the food concerned is

Urgent health warning after E.coli outbreak linked to 'nationally distributed food item'

The UK Health Security Agency didn't name the food item thought to be responsible for the outbreak of E.coli but it has hospitalised around 37 people in England already.
news.sky.com
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I think meat and dairy are the most common food types for E. coli outbreaks but it can quite literally be anything. I guess that they want to see how serious it gets before causing a panic. We all remember Edwina Curry and the salmonella egg scare. Back from a time when MP’s resigned from the cabinet when they fucked up.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,043
Sky Blue Pete said:
I don’t get it
He speaks over people
Doesn’t answer the questions asked
Argues
Confronts
Doesn’t listen
Is combative
Not all skills of a good communicator
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Im talking when he’s out and about, the sanitised/controlled stuff. Interviews, tricky questioning etc outside of his comfort zone, not so good due to lack of substance
 
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Northants Sky Blue

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,044
His weak points are so easy to isolate - Tory Comms should be absolutely rinsing this but they're caught between a rock and a hard place.
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,045
Deleted member 5849 said:
I read these in order without noticing the post quoted. Thought torch was being a bit harsh on his own son!
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To be fair, I probably was. Annoyiing little sod.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,046
skybluetony176 said:
Based on the most recent poll they’re predicted to get 3. That could be the difference between a Tory or Lib Dem opposition. You also can’t rule out Farage’s ambition to be the Tory Leader. Assuming he can win Clacton.

I think in reality though NW is probably right. A lot of people saying that they will vote reform will change their mind nearer the time or on the day. Tactically in most seats if you want to stop your MP being Labour or Lib Dem then Tory is your tactical vote in most cases with the possible exception of the seat Farage is standing in.
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Looking at most of the reform voting population they see they Tories as part of the same liberal elite as Labour and the Lib Dems.

Also as with previous elections there is a large never tory reform vote.

Some may switch but not enough to change anything really.
 

AOM

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,047
clint van damme said:
Ditto Johnson. How they get seen as anti-establishment is incredible.
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They both have photos taken drinking pints
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,048
CCFCSteve said:
Im talking when he’s out and about, the sanitised/controlled stuff. Interviews, tricky questioning etc outside of his comfort zone, not so good due to lack of substance
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I actually think the response to questions plays into a certain group really, as it's a 'normal' response to being irritated, rather than putting on a face and doing the politician's thing, so he comes across as more one of us than one of them as a result.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,049
AOM said:
They both have photos taken drinking pints
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A special Tory brew where you can't tell the differences between the pints on offer?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,050
When Nigel Farage was in Clacton he announced to his audience that 50% of 18-35 year olds don’t know what D Day is, which is obviously bollocks. On an unrelated note

 
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AOM

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,051
Philosorapter said:
A special Tory brew where you can't tell the differences between the pints on offer?
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PVA

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,052
Tories are just incapable of looking normal drinking beer.

It's so beneath them after all. It's what the proles drink. Ugh.




 
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wingy

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,053
PVA said:
Tories are just incapable of looking normal drinking beer.

It's so beneath them after all. It's what the proles drink. Ugh.




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Raiding the discounted in the commons bar, or a funeral.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,054
I see another poll has come out that puts the Lib Dem’s in opposition.

Sounds unlikely but how often does polls have to keep the trend going before you have to start accepting its a possibility?

Two things for sure. The Tories are shitting it and do they should as the polls aren’t narrowing, at least not in their favour.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,055
shmmeee said:
Actually agree that it’s tipping the balance back a bit in the gerontocracy we have at the moment.
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CCFCSteve said:
I don’t think it’s just them. Your average man on the street (not sure about women so much - bet most think he’s a bit creepy) seem to quite like him, same as Johnson.

Not my cup of tea but as I say, he’s a good communicator so can speak to people in a way which many politicians can’t. A lot of it’s an act and just telling people what they want to hear, but it seems to work for him
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It’s called being a charlatan.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,056
skybluetony176 said:
When Nigel Farage was in Clacton he announced to his audience that 50% of 18-35 year olds don’t know what D Day is, which is obviously bollocks. On an unrelated note

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My favourite one today is 90% of those on landing craft died on the first day. Mmmmmm it was catastrophic enough without making shit up
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,057
skybluetony176 said:
When Nigel Farage was in Clacton he announced to his audience that 50% of 18-35 year olds don’t know what D Day is, which is obviously bollocks. On an unrelated note

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He's clearly done that on purpose to game the algorithm and get more cash from twitter. More interactions more pay for blue ticks now.

It shows two things
1. He knows how to grift, he's good at getting people to fund his next bag wether they agree or disagree with him
2. He doesn't actually give two fucks about the people that served this country
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,058
Liquid Gold said:
He's clearly done that on purpose to game the algorithm and get more cash from twitter. More interactions more pay for blue ticks now.

It shows two things
1. He knows how to grift, he's good at getting people to fund his next bag wether they agree or disagree with him
2. He doesn't actually give two fucks about the people that served this country
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nah he’s just a thick fucker
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,059
David O'Day said:

Getting to be an existential crisis for the tories now

Interestingly the way reform and tory votes are distributed this likely makes Ed Davey LOTO.
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36% of people think we either need more of the same or to lurch further to the right
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,060
Liquid Gold said:
He's clearly done that on purpose to game the algorithm and get more cash from twitter. More interactions more pay for blue ticks now.

It shows two things
1. He knows how to grift, he's good at getting people to fund his next bag wether they agree or disagree with him
2. He doesn't actually give two fucks about the people that served this country
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In WW2 Robinson would have been a black shirt cheering on the Nazis.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,061
torchomatic said:
Thank you! Didn't think of that.
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So young people aren’t being stopped from voting Labour?
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,062
MalcSB said:
So young people aren’t being stopped from voting Labour?
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The policy is not to "stop" people from voting, but to make it unnecessarily difficult under the guise of fixing a problem that doesn't exist
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,063
Skybluekyle said:
The policy is not to "stop" people from voting, but to make it unnecessarily difficult under the guise of fixing a problem that doesn't exist
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Torch said it was to stop young people voting Labour. I really don’t see what the problem is with having to show some ID which proves eligibility to vote.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,064
I knew he was a yoga master

Video: Delighted Ed Davey drums 'We Will Rock You' on exercise balls | Daily Mail Online

Delighted Ed Davey drums 'We Will Rock You' on exercise balls during campaign tour. The Liberal Democrat leader was visiting voters when he joined in a for a round of music.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #37,065
MalcSB said:
Torch said it was to stop young people voting Labour. I really don’t see what the problem is with having to show some ID which proves eligibility to vote.
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There was a miniscule problem with electoral fraud, we all know why it was done and if you're being honest, you do as well.

Redirect Notice
 
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