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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (12 Viewers)

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MalcSB

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,821
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shmmeee said:
Sorry should have explained. There’s neuroscience research that shows the brain doesn’t mature until 25, so there’s an argument to make that the age of majority but in reality I don’t think anyone would accept it.

There’s no real logical age that makes sense where you’re a child one day and an adult the next, I think 18 or even 21 is fair though.
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TBH I knew that was what you meant, but increasing the voting age to 25 would simply be so unacceptable even the Tories wouldn’t propose it.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,822
CCFCSteve said:
But 18 to watch or buy porn. Strange rules
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Which is kind of my point. Standardise it either up or down, I don't care which - experts will know better than I. But standardise it and don't view people as responsible enough to work, procreate, and be responsible for another life while not being able to vote.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,823
Farage really i having a fucking mare in the interviews since he said he would run again.

He doesn't really want to run, he only did as people mocked hi as a coward and if he wins he's gonna spend October and November talking to people in Clacton about bin collections instead of grifting in the USA.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,824
We moved marriage up to 18, it’s weird we didn’t do the same with sex TBH.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,825
Deleted member 5849 said:
Which is kind of my point. Standardise it either up or down, I don't care which - experts will know better than I. But standardise it and don't view people as responsible enough to work, procreate, and be responsible for another life while not being able to vote.
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Let’s be honest I doubt many are planning on ‘procreating’ at that age and it would happen anyway. Agree with you and shmmeee that it should be standardised though

I know what I was like at 16 and although sensible ish (got worse as I got older !) I was no adult !
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,826
shmmeee said:
We moved marriage up to 18, it’s weird we didn’t do the same with sex TBH.
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Don’t agree and it’s completely unrealistic to expect teenagers under 18 not to have sex.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,827
Northants Sky Blue said:
Anyone who thinks these milkshake stunts are genuine needs their bumps felt.

As Tice conveniently tweets:

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You might be right
Same girl?

 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,828
Sick Boy said:
Don’t agree and it’s completely unrealistic to expect teenagers under 18 not to have sex.
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That’s not what the age of consent laws are for. See my link earlier. Under 16s can have sex with each other and not get prosecuted. In reality it’s to protect children from adults. Be honest if your 40 year old mate rocked up with a 16 year old missus what would you think?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,829
clint van damme said:
You might be right
Same girl?

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Speaking of creepy older men
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,830
clint van damme said:
You might be right
Same girl?

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Handsy
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,831
MalcSB said:
I think I am, yes, given the area of the brain responsible for judgement isn't fully developed at 16.
If it isn’t about maturity then 13 year olds should be able given the vote. In truth, we all know what this proposal is about and if 16 year olds were more likely to vote Tory it wouldn’t be being suggested by Labour.
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So would you ban over 18’s with learning difficulties who have a mental age less than 18 from voting?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,832
skybluetony176 said:
So would you ban over 18’s with learning difficulties who have a mental age less than 18 from voting?
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Or people with dementia.

Anything other than age of majority leads to messy edge cases and unintended consequences.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,833
clint van damme said:
You might be right
Same girl?

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It's not, she was in the Midlands today
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,834
Also milkshaking is really a 2019 thing. Find it hard to believe it’s just randomly made a comeback.
 

nicksar

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,835
shmmeee said:
That’s not what the age of consent laws are for. See my link earlier. Under 16s can have sex with each other and not get prosecuted. In reality it’s to protect children from adults. Be honest if your 40 year old mate rocked up with a 16 year old missus what would you think?
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One of my Daughter's went on a date at 16 with a 37 year old man...it happened only once mind you.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,836
Watch this then go on about how they’re all the same and you’re voting Green. I fucking dare you.

 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,837
Emily Hewertson is denying it was her that threw the shake.

 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,838
shmmeee said:
Emily Hewertson is denying it was her that threw the shake.

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That's exactly what someone who was planted to throw a milkshake would say
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,839
shmmeee said:
Or people with dementia.

Anything other than age of majority leads to messy edge cases and unintended consequences.
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My Dad has no clue what is going on or who anyone is and is in end of life care. He will receive his postal vote.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,840
Wonderful.


 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,841
PVA said:
Wonderful.


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*banging table*
Zero seats! Zero seats!
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,842
This debate is meaningless really, Sunak is shite at PMs so is likely to be worse here but short of declaring war on the west there's not much Starmer can do to change the main of a public that has decided it's time for the Tories to leave government.
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,843
shmmeee said:
*banging table*
Zero seats! Zero seats!
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Zero seats, zero seats, Tory Party. Zero seats, zero seats, I say. Zero seats, zero seats, Tory Party, playing politics the cronyism way
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,844
Sunak is such a c**t. Probably thinks he sounds authoritative talking over everyone but just comes across as an annoying little shit.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,845
Lecturing a woman who can't afford to her oven on is a great look
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,846
Getting openly laughed at by the audience now hahaha, I would love to see him burst into tears.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,847
shmmeee said:
Watch this then go on about how they’re all the same and you’re voting Green. I fucking dare you.

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Do you think, as with the French Revolution, you've just lost your way and just turned into a group that resemble Robespierre and the Committee of Public Safety?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,848
Philosorapter said:
Do you think, as with the French Revolution, you've just lost your way and just turned into a group that resemble Robespierre and the Committee of Public Safety?
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You on glue again mate?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,849
This is a poor excuse for a debate, neither look impressive. Though Sunak interrupting both Starmer and the moderator every time they speak is especially irritating
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,850
shmmeee said:
Watch this then go on about how they’re all the same and you’re voting Green. I fucking dare you.

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It’s very good. I can imagine you with the tears in your eyes and your upper lip quivering as you watch it.

I would be surprised if an equally telling but negative newsreel couldn’t be put together featuring the same politicians. I would imagine giving away the gold reserves left after the previous stuffing of doctors’ mouths and dodgy dossiers leading to wars would heavily feature.

I think the same - positive and negative - could be produced for the tories. They are all poliical pygmies and none of them really worth me voting for.

Starmer is unconvincing and seems like a useful idiot placeholder. Sunak is no better.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,851
MalcSB said:
It’s very good. I can imagine you with the tears in your eyes and your upper lip quivering as you watch it.

I would be surprised if an equally telling but negative newsreel couldn’t be put together featuring the same politicians. I would imagine giving away the gold reserves left after the previous stuffing of doctors’ mouths and dodgy dossiers leading to wars would heavily feature.

I think the same - positive and negative - could be produced for the tories. They are all poliical pygmies and none of them really worth me voting for.

Starmer is unconvincing and seems like a useful idiot placeholder. Sunak is no better.
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The stuffing of the doctors mouths? You mean the founding of the NHS? Yeah that'll make people hate labour.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,852
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This is a poor excuse for a debate, neither look impressive. Though Sunak interrupting both Starmer and the moderator every time they speak is especially irritating
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Starmer is miles ahead, he doesn't need to be but Sunak is fucking awful.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,853
MalcSB said:
It’s very good. I can imagine you with the tears in your eyes and your upper lip quivering as you watch it.

I would be surprised if an equally telling but negative newsreel couldn’t be put together featuring the same politicians. I would imagine giving away the gold reserves left after the previous stuffing of doctors’ mouths and dodgy dossiers leading to wars would heavily feature.

I think the same - positive and negative - could be produced for the tories. They are all poliical pygmies and none of them really worth me voting for.

Starmer is unconvincing and seems like a useful idiot placeholder. Sunak is no better.
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give me the Tory equivalent
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,854
MalcSB said:
It’s very good. I can imagine you with the tears in your eyes and your upper lip quivering as you watch it.

I would be surprised if an equally telling but negative newsreel couldn’t be put together featuring the same politicians. I would imagine giving away the gold reserves left after the previous stuffing of doctors’ mouths and dodgy dossiers leading to wars would heavily feature.

I think the same - positive and negative - could be produced for the tories. They are all poliical pygmies and none of them really worth me voting for.

Starmer is unconvincing and seems like a useful idiot placeholder. Sunak is no better.
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if it wasn’t clear this is aimed very much as those on the left. And leader personalities mean little. Labour governments change lives for the better. Regardless of the figurehead.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 4, 2024
  • #36,855
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This is a poor excuse for a debate, neither look impressive.
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via the incredibly unscientific method of looking at my twitter feed thats what I'm seeing as the general consensus. Kinda sums up the whole campaign really. Sunak useless and nobody wants to vote for him, nobody particularly keen on Starmer or really sure where he stands on pretty much any issue but he isn't Sunak.
 
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