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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,606
Skybluefaz said:
This world is fucked.
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You of course realise that this and the similar tweets are the daily count of the rockets fired on Israel.

(I'm certainly not making a case for the Israeli response).
 

Skybluefaz

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,607
dubed said:
You of course realise that this and the similar tweets are the daily count of the rockets fired on Israel.

(I'm certainly not making a case for the Israeli response).
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I'm not here to argue the toss. Just think a state tweeting emojis of rockets is a good fucking barometer of how fucked the situation is.

It's very Black Mirror.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,608
Had a revelation yesterday after my lad asked me what we can do about Israel and Palestine and it’s nothing. There is nothing he or I can do. So what can we do? Well mostly seek justice in our own lives and live lives that grow characters that seek peace not hate. Now that’s a challenge
 

hill83

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,609
SBAndy said:
Well...

Also quite an interesting/harrowing read on the forum of The Football Ramble, who has one member from Palestine and reporting on what’s happening over there - The Football Ramble Forum | The *new* International Politics (& society) thread
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Fucking hell. I don't know enough about it to comment and someone summed it up on there perfectly the exact reason I stay quiet on it.

But then the problem with that argument is that when you’re underqualified to speak on it in detail, as I am, you worry about overlapping with the genuine anti-Semitic cranks that exist on the left and so the easier solution on a personal level is to stay silent, which is of course an entirely unhelpful position to take.
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chiefdave

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,610
Skybluefaz said:
I'm not here to argue the toss. Just think a state tweeting emojis of rockets is a good fucking barometer of how fucked the situation is.
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That's one of their tamer tweets. Imagine if your apartment block in Gaza had just been flattened only to then be the subject of a before and after meme.

 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,611
Here's another one
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,612
There’s no good guys in this latest round of trouble between Israel and Palestinian. These tweets prove that. It’s about time that the international community started arms embargo’s on rogue states like Israel and Saudi Arabia. We have an arms embargo with Myanmar largely because of humanitarian atrocities why not Israel and Saudi Arabia.
 
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wingy

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,613
"Handcuffed, detained, denied medicine: EU citizens’ UK border ordeals | Immigration and asylum | The Guardian" Handcuffed, detained, denied medicine: EU citizens’ UK border ordeals | Immigration and asylum | The Guardian
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,614
skybluetony176 said:
There’s no good guys in this latest round of trouble between Israel and Palestinian. These tweets prove that. It’s about time that the international community started arms embargo’s on rogue states like Israel and Saudi Arabia. We have an arms embargo with Myanmar largely because of humanitarian atrocities why not Israel and Saudi Arabia.
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Whilst I'm not sure you can compare to Myanmar, the answer would be because US and Saudi Arabia are world powers who we need to appease. Our stopping sales to Israel would make no difference whatsoever, though as a point of principle we should, that principle being less about the use of the arms than Israel's expansionist policy, itself driven by the US.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,615
Any ban on arms sales to Israel would last precisely as long as it would take Biden to notice and pick up the phone.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,616
wingy said:
"Handcuffed, detained, denied medicine: EU citizens’ UK border ordeals | Immigration and asylum | The Guardian" Handcuffed, detained, denied medicine: EU citizens’ UK border ordeals | Immigration and asylum | The Guardian
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This makes me feel so ashamed of my country.
 
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PVA

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,617
It's disgusting isn't it.

I bet Patel is absolutely loving it though.
 
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PVA

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,618
I wonder what the odds are on Cummings having a nasty 'accident'?

Dominic Cummings threatens to release crucial Covid document

The tweet was deleted less than an hour after it was posted
www.standard.co.uk
 

chiefdave

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,619
There is absolutely no way this could possibly backfire.

 
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PVA

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,620
Cityandproud87 said:
He's the definition of a Weasel/Backstabber.
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He is, and he must have so much shit on Johnson and the government. I am enjoying the show.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,621
First 10 minutes of the latest This Week Tonight is on the Israel / Palestine conflict.

 

hill83

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,622
chiefdave said:
There is absolutely no way this could possibly backfire.

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skybluetony176

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,623
dubed said:
Whilst I'm not sure you can compare to Myanmar, the answer would be because US and Saudi Arabia are world powers who we need to appease. Our stopping sales to Israel would make no difference whatsoever, though as a point of principle we should, that principle being less about the use of the arms than Israel's expansionist policy, itself driven by the US.
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Germany doesn’t need to appease the US and Saudi Arabia. They extended their arms embargo to Saudi for another 12 months last December and they’ll review it again then. They’ve done this specifically on Saudi’s involvement in Yemen. Why can’t we take the same stance?
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,624
Because we are a colony of the US ('special relationship'), and therefore also SA. Also, we don't make cars and washing machines - the Germans have corned that market.
 
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PVA

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,625
And 6 of them were part of his entourage







 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,626
dubed said:
Because we are a colony of the US ('special relationship'), and therefore also SA. Also, we don't make cars and washing machines - the Germans have corned that market.
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That bodes well for drug prices for the NHS then. TAKING BACK CONTROL!
 

shmmeee

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,627
skybluetony176 said:
That bodes well for drug prices for the NHS then. TAKING BACK CONTROL!
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What did you expect from the political wing of society with a cuckolding fetish?

SkyBlueDommed more like
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,628
Don't know if anyone has seen this, but it flashed up on twitter last night.

It's horrifying to be honest.

 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,629
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Don't know if anyone has seen this, but it flashed up on twitter last night.

It's horrifying to be honest.

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Animals, scum, lock them away and throw away the key
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,630
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Don't know if anyone has seen this, but it flashed up on twitter last night.

It's horrifying to be honest.

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Shouldnt be hard to get that Snapchat act and find them surely? Disgusting.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,631
shmmeee said:
Shouldnt be hard to get that Snapchat act and find them surely? Disgusting.
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That's what I was thinking. Hopefully they can.

That woman screaming was chilling to listen to.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,632
More YouGov culture war stuff, actually think the difference between what Wokies think is woke and what non-wokies do is interesting.

 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,633
Some interesting stuff there.

One that pops out at me is that those who consider themselves woke appear to view their position on racial equality and sexual orientation as being much more of an altered state of conscious than those who feel that it is part of everyday consciousness; and that actions such as taking away the voice of those who express alternative positions are considered by those professing to be woke as not reducing wakefulness.

Surprised that only half of those professing not to be woke thought that the Guardian was woke - I'd thought the figure would have been off the scale.
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,634
dubed said:
Some interesting stuff there.

One that pops out at me is that those who consider themselves woke appear to view their position on racial equality and sexual orientation as being much more of an altered state of conscious than those who feel that it is part of everyday consciousness; and that actions such as taking away the voice of those who express alternative positions are considered by those professing to be woke as not reducing wakefulness.

Surprised that only half of those professing not to be work thought that the Guardian was woke - I'd thought the figure would have been off the scale.
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I want to meet the people that consider both themselves and Nigel Farage woke

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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,635

Indian mosque bulldozed in defiance of high court order

Local officials in Uttar Pradesh demolish mosque that had stood since time of British rule
www.theguardian.com
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,636
Treating people as equals is woke. Surely that’s just a given.
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,637
What I find really interesting is aside from the views on Corbyn, Biden, Johnson, and Farage, the two sides are totally talking past each other.

One side is saying fairly normal views like climate change, LGBT rights, anti racism are “woke” and therefore anyone anti work would surely be a terrible person, but those who are anti woke seem to see them as givens and care more about statues and speakers, neither of which the wokes seem to care about.

So let’s all agree to not be racist cunts and leave statues alone and crack on with our lives shall we?
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,639
dubed said:
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What a guy.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 18, 2021
  • #3,640
Pretty impressive

 
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