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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (32 Viewers)

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rob9872

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,421
wingy said:
Of course its all relative, I think but don't know but I think Rob feels kind of left behind?

By events either natural or legislated for!
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Not at all mate, just on the wind up as usual. Now the GE has been called I should probably retreat again and leave this conversation for the grown ups
 

JAM See

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,422
Ian1779 said:
I don’t think it’s animosity to a flag, it’s the idea that you can ONLY be patriotic in that way.
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Non sequitur of the day.

Give yourself a pat on the back.
 
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duffer

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,423
JAM See said:
Like not paying taxes or adhering to speed limits?

Are you Jimmy Carr, or Jeremy Clarkson.

Voting should be a duty, not just a "right" as you wokerati like to go on about.

Fucking snowflakes, going on about how representative democracy is not for them.
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Oh do give over with the "snowflake/wokerati" rubbish. If anything you're the one being overly precious here by endlessly banging on about it - and those phrases are really just meaningless gibberish intended to insult.

Anyway, people fought and died for our right to protest too. On that basis I demand that you go on a protest next weekend, otherwise you are disrespecting their memory. No?

It's such a poor argument, the "fought and died for" one.

Regardless, I can just as reasonably state that Peterloo etc. was a fight for the _right_ to vote, not the compulsion to do so. Or was that in the small print on the placards?
 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,424
duffer said:
Oh do give over with the "snowflake/wokerati" rubbish. If anything you're the one being overly precious here by endlessly banging on about it - and those phrases are really just meaningless gibberish intended to insult.

Anyway, people fought and died for our right to protest too. On that basis I demand that you go on a protest next weekend, otherwise you are disrespecting their memory. No?

It's such a poor argument, the "fought and died for" one.

Regardless, I can just as reasonably state that Peterloo etc. was a fight for the _right_ to vote, not the compulsion to do so. Or was that in the small print on the placards?
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Nice invective.

However...

You are wrong

I am right

Don't bother replying
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,425
JAM See said:
Non sequitur of the day.

Give yourself a pat on the back.
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Bloody hell you are patronising.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,426
Of course, the speech for whomever wins on July 4th will be going against the greatest political speech in history.

 
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Skybluekyle

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,427
Americans talking about the implication of the date chosen. If we consciously tried to ensure we did not conflict with a country celebrating independence from the UK, we'd have very few dates to choose from. Same as Coventry City, it's tough being fucking huge
 
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duffer

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,428
JAM See said:
Nice invective.

However...

You are wrong

I am right

Don't bother replying
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No invective mate, that's all from you with the usual meaningless 'snowflake' bullshit.

Clearly you've figured out this is an argument you can't win via rational debate so you're down to playground level now.

A bit poor, but if it shuts you up on it for a bit, that's got to be a win for me I guess.

Would you like a medal for second place, or would that be too 'woke' for you? x
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,429
Sunak must have thought he was being so clever by saying the election would be ‘in the second half of the year’ knowing it would be in July.

The last desperate throw of the dice from a doomed government
 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,430
duffer said:
No invective mate, that's all from you with the usual meaningless 'snowflake' bullshit.

Clearly you've figured out this is an argument you can't win via rational debate so you're down to playground level now.

A bit poor, but if it shuts you up on it for a bit, that's got to be a win for me I guess.

Would you like a medal for second place, or would that be too 'woke' for you? x
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Typical Tory language.

It's not about winning and losing my dear.

It's about right and wrong.

Crack on with your 'medal' chat darling.

I'll concentrate on fighting the good fight.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,431
JAM See said:
Like not paying taxes or adhering to speed limits?

Are you Jimmy Carr, or Jeremy Clarkson.

Voting should be a duty, not just a "right" as you wokerati like to go on about.

Fucking snowflakes, going on about how representative democracy is not for them.
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How far would you go in enforcing this law out of interest? Fine? Prison?
 

JAM See

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,432
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How far would you go in enforcing this law out of interest? Fine? Prison?
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Thirty quid fine.

No criminal record or anything, just make it a pain in the arse for people not to participate in the democratic process.

Like parking, but more important.
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,433
Do we now call Rishi the wally without the brolly?
 

clint van damme

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,434
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How far would you go in enforcing this law out of interest? Fine? Prison?
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You'd end up with the uk equivalent of the donkey vote.
Every constituency in the country would have a candidate called Aaron Aardvark on it!
 

shmmeee

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,435
Ian1779 said:
Show your patriotism by making sure not one of your citizens is homeless, not by getting a hard on for a flag.
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It’s the flag of the country he wants to lead. Literally every head of state and leader across the planet stands in front of their flag.

I really don’t get why we’re especially weird about it.
 
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PVA

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,436
He really is an odious little snake


 
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shmmeee

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,437
Ian1779 said:
I don’t think it’s animosity to a flag, it’s the idea that you can ONLY be patriotic in that way.
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Literally no one is saying that. Just that it means something to a lot of people that isn’t what overly online bigotry obsessed politics nerds think when they see it. Most people don’t think of Tommy Robinson or whatever, especially with the Union Flag, they think of Geri Haliwell and Austin Powers and GBBO.
 

JAM See

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,438
clint van damme said:
You'd end up with the uk equivalent of the donkey vote.
Every constituency in the country would have a candidate called Aaron Aardvark on it!
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Nice pithy comment, but complete bollocks.

Aaron Aardvark would lose their deposit.

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

Any c**t who doesn't vote is a c**t.
 

duffer

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,439
JAM See said:
Typical Tory language.

It's not about winning and losing my dear.

It's about right and wrong.

Crack on with your 'medal' chat darling.

I'll concentrate on fighting the good fight.
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So as previous, you've got no actual rational argument.

You're not fighting the good fight, you're walking away from it!

Make your case for compulsory voting if you've got one.

I've got no problem with having a reasonable discussion on it, but don't think a handful of cheap slurs and a circular insistence that you're right because you're right somehow proves your case.
 

JAM See

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,440
Ian1779 said:
Bloody hell you are patronising.
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I honestly don't think I'm patronising, but I WOULD have put a comma after "hell" my dear. X
 
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JAM See

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,441
duffer said:
So as previous, you've got no actual rational argument.

You're not fighting the good fight, you're walking away from it!

Make your case for compulsory voting if you've got one.

I've got no problem with having a reasonable discussion on it, but don't think a handful of cheap slurs and a circular insistence that you're right because you're right somehow proves your case.
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Voting. Good. Paying tax. Good.

Not voting. Bad. Not paying tax. Bad.

Is that simple enough for you?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,442
JAM See said:
Voting. Good. Paying tax. Good.

Not voting. Bad. Not paying tax. Bad.

Is that simple enough for you?
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If the vote was between two fascist parties would voting still be better than not?
 

JAM See

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,443
fernandopartridge said:
If the vote was between two fascist parties would voting still be better than not?
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Another non sequitur.

What's that question got to do with the thread?

Open a new one called "Thought experiments" or something.

Meanwhile, let the grown ups crack on with having a debate.
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,444
JAM See said:
I honestly don't think I'm patronising, but I WOULD have put a comma after "hell" my dear. X
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Would it not be a comma after "hell"?
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,445
JAM See said:
Voting. Good. Paying tax. Good.

Not voting. Bad. Not paying tax. Bad.

Is that simple enough for you?
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Voting good. Compulsion to do so bad. Is that simple enough for you?

Face it mate, you've got an opinion you can't support except by mindless repetition and unnecessary unpleasantness. It's fucking boring.

Get someone coherent if you want to win your 'good fight', you're obviously not quite up to it.
 

Ian1779

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,446
JAM See said:
Meanwhile, let the grown ups crack on with having a debate.
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Given your advocacy for voting, and the importance of doing so - your condescending attitude will put far more people off than anything we say.
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,447
Thank fuck the Tory years are finally at an end.

I have a feeling that the "wait until the manifesto" lot are going to soon be the "wait until they're in government lot" though.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,448
Rumours that something big and bad is about to happen, I've heard a water company or big university going bust, and that is why he's gone now to try and pin it on Labour.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,449
Anyway, Greens for me. I think they can genuinely turn my seat and it's a Green/Lab marginal so I can do it with a clean conscience.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,450
Liquid Gold said:
Rumours that something big and bad is about to happen, I've heard a water company or big university going bust, and that is why he's gone now to try and pin it on Labour.
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My wife thinks there’s an asteroid, or another pandemic coming.

Was it Dowden that said stock up for a disaster yesterday?
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,451
Ian1779 said:
My wife thinks there’s an asteroid, or another pandemic coming.

Was it Dowden that said stock up for a disaster yesterday?
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I think if there was a genuine natural disaster on the way, the Tories would be desperate to hang on for it - they've shown they're brilliant at making money for their mates, out of others' grief.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,452
duffer said:
General Election imminent?

Please God, let it be true...

Rumours about general election feel different this time

Westminster is gripped by talk of a snap election - all eyes are now on Rishi Sunak to clear it up.
www.bbc.co.uk
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It is, my missus works for the Civil Service, she said it will be announced soon.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,453
Nuskyblue said:
It is, my missus works for the Civil Service, she said it will be announced soon.
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Thanks for confirming mate.
 
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Nuskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,454
clint van damme said:
Thanks for confirming mate.
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It would have had more clout if I'd actually hit send earlier
 
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Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,455
Well it’s never good when a political correspondent gets booted out of a campaign event. Regardless of the pool reporting thing that goes on, it’s an awful look.
 
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