Non AMP
Sky Blues Talk
  • Home
  • Forums
  • General Discussion
  • Off Topic Chat
This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

Do you want to discuss boring politics? (30 Viewers)

  • Thread starter mrtrench
  • Start date Jun 14, 2020
Forums New posts
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 1008
  • 1009
  • 1010
  • 1011
  • 1012
  • …
  • 1497
Next
First Prev 1010 of 1497 Next Last
C

CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • May 20, 2024
  • #35,316

My monies on one of you lot setting up a false Fiona Harvey account
 
Reactions: Sick Boy, duffer and Sky Blue Pete
B

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 20, 2024
  • #35,317
CCFCSteve said:
View attachment 35751
My monies on one of you lot setting up a false Fiona Harvey account
Click to expand...
I can't bring myself to such low standards of spelling and grammar even in a parody account.
 
Reactions: CCFCSteve

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • May 20, 2024
  • #35,318
CCFCSteve said:
View attachment 35751
My monies on one of you lot setting up a false Fiona Harvey account
Click to expand...
Who's leaking this stuff?

If true, she needs help, not opprobium.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 20, 2024
  • #35,319
CCFCSteve said:
View attachment 35751
My monies on one of you lot setting up a false Fiona Harvey account
Click to expand...

I heard she sent an e mail every time he did a u turn but she only sent 276 so it can't be true.
 
Reactions: fernandopartridge, Grendel, duffer and 4 others

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • May 20, 2024
  • #35,320
CCFCSteve said:
View attachment 35751
My monies on one of you lot setting up a false Fiona Harvey account
Click to expand...
I would say that whoever creates it should spend their time choosing a contributor on here and replying to their every post, but we've already got a few doing that!
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,321
It was always obvious what the real rationale was for voter ID but…

Stop the Student Votes: Leaked Memo Exposes the Real Purpose of Voter ID

Voter ID: Leaked Johnny Mercer memo suggests law was designed to stop students from voting and 'gerrymander' elections for Conservatives
bylinetimes.com
 
Reactions: duffer

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,322
General Election imminent?

Please God, let it be true...

Rumours about general election feel different this time

Westminster is gripped by talk of a snap election - all eyes are now on Rishi Sunak to clear it up.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,323
duffer said:
General Election imminent?

Please God, let it be true...

Rumours about general election feel different this time

Westminster is gripped by talk of a snap election - all eyes are now on Rishi Sunak to clear it up.
www.bbc.co.uk
Click to expand...
Madness for the tories if true
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,324
David O'Day said:
Madness for the tories if true
Click to expand...

Is it because he thinks that things can only get worse?

I'm talking here in terms of Tory party unity, not the country as a whole - obviously he doesn't care much about the latter...
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,325
David O'Day said:
Madness for the tories if true
Click to expand...

They're fucked regardless......but a snap election on the back of the inevitable "we brought inflation down" media wankathon is maybe their best bet at not getting totally wiped out.....
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,326
duffer said:
General Election imminent?

Please God, let it be true...

Rumours about general election feel different this time

Westminster is gripped by talk of a snap election - all eyes are now on Rishi Sunak to clear it up.
www.bbc.co.uk
Click to expand...
He’s not going to get better timing than now so he’d be stupid to wait. Labour clearly suffered a small but possibly significant backlash at the locals because of their stance over Gaza, they’ve just announced that inflation has fallen to a 3 year low and strong rumours of a cut in interest rates around the corner. He’s fucked whatever but for damage limitation for the Tories it’s now or never.
 
Reactions: Skybluekyle

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,327
Journos seem to think it's happening! Push the button, Rishi...

 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,328
duffer said:
Journos seem to think it's happening! Push the button, Rishi...

Click to expand...
Ministers cancelling trips and appearances to attend a cabinet meeting this afternoon. Allegedly.
 
Reactions: duffer and Skybluekyle

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,329
Maybe he’s just had enough and is up to move back to Cali and get a cushy tech board job?
 
Reactions: Sky Blue Pete
S

Skybluekyle

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,330
duffer said:
Journos seem to think it's happening! Push the button, Rishi...

Click to expand...
The Cabinet are shortening/delaying trips all over the place. Could be announced as early as this evening
 
W

wingy

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,331
Mmm holiday season, what could be the motivation for that?
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,332
Remember the old saying that people consider admitting to wanking is as embarrassing as admitting to voting Conservative. All I'll say is there are a lot of secret wankers out there. Labour can't fail to win a majority, but I still don't think it will be anything like the wipeout or landslide predicted.

Even aside from my obvious bias, I always want a decent opposition to keep any government from pushing just about anything through without being held to account and I've consistently advocated that through the past 10 years too, so not just because it's Labour this time.
 
Reactions: Sky Blue Pete

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,333
wingy said:
Mmm holiday season, what could be the motivation for that?
Click to expand...
Huge public sector payrises so they're all away on holiday
 
Reactions: wingy

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,334
rob9872 said:
Remember the old saying that people consider admitting to wanking is as embarrassing as admitting to voting Conservative. All I'll say is there are a lot of secret wankers out there. Labour can't fail to win a majority, but I still don't think it will be anything like the wipeout or landslide predicted.

Even aside from my obvious bias, I always want a decent opposition to keep any government from pushing just about anything through without being held to account and I've consistently advocated that through the past 10 years too, so not just because it's Labour this time.
Click to expand...

Mate, it's Starmer. I wouldn't worry too much about anything left of centre getting through because of lack of a decent opposition.
 
Reactions: rob9872

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,335
rob9872 said:
Remember the old saying that people consider admitting to wanking is as embarrassing as admitting to voting Conservative. All I'll say is there are a lot of secret wankers out there. Labour can't fail to win a majority, but I still don't think it will be anything like the wipeout or landslide predicted.

Even aside from my obvious bias, I always want a decent opposition to keep any government from pushing just about anything through without being held to account and I've consistently advocated that through the past 10 years too, so not just because it's Labour this time.
Click to expand...

AFAIK there’s never actually been any evidence of a shy Tory effect. Polls will close during a GE campaign, they always do.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,336
Ref earlier convo about the US economy with @CCFCSteve


This is why I have trouble accepting the idea that the US public have some special sense of the real economy. A lot of it is straight up vibes and I’m not sure how well old wisdom about it’s the economy stupid hold up when we don’t have a shared economic ground truth.
 
S

Skybluekyle

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,337
Based on what I have read, it's looking like a General Election will almost certainly be announced today, most likely at 5pm. Date doing the rounds is the 04/07
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,338
Rumours abound that Tory rebels are putting in letters of no confidence in an effort to stop Sunak calling a GE.
 
Reactions: Skybluekyle

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,339
rob9872 said:
Huge public sector payrises so they're all away on holiday
Click to expand...

Nobody in the public sector has had a pay rise for about 15 years, in real terms pay has stagnated at best and in most cases declined. This state of affairs is not helpful to the state of the economy..
 
S

Skybluekyle

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,340
skybluetony176 said:
Rumours abound that Tory rebels are putting in letters of no confidence in an effort to stop Sunak calling a GE.
Click to expand...
I am absolutely no Tory, but surely they should realise it is now or never?

Simply feed the line that they "got Brexit done", "combated inflation" and "got the economy growing again" repeat ad nauseam
 
W

wingy

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,341
fernandopartridge said:
Nobody in the public sector has had a pay rise for about 15 years, in real terms pay has stagnated at best and in most cases declined. This state of affairs is not helpful to the state of the economy..
Click to expand...
Of course its all relative, I think but don't know but I think Rob feels kind of left behind?

By events either natural or legislated for!
 
Reactions: rob9872
C

CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,342
shmmeee said:
Ref earlier convo about the US economy with @CCFCSteve


This is why I have trouble accepting the idea that the US public have some special sense of the real economy. A lot of it is straight up vibes and I’m not sure how well old wisdom about it’s the economy stupid hold up when we don’t have a shared economic ground truth.
Click to expand...

Agreed, it’s how people feel and inflation has made people feel a lot poorer*. Also in the U.K., for those middle income earners, the frozen tax bands have meant many are paying more tax. All whilst public services are on their arse. Not a great election winning combo

I was going to post earlier to say I’d be shocked if Sunak went for an early election as they’d want to wait until Ni cuts to start to make people feel a bit better off and hope for England to win euros for national feel good factor but sounds like it might be happening….maybe Sunak worrierd about our left back options

*GDP might be flying and CPI going down but if people are struggling to pay for the basics like food, rent, energy and petrol, those numbers are irrelevant in peoples every day lives
 
Reactions: duffer
W

wingy

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,343
CCFCSteve said:
Agreed, it’s how people feel and inflation has made people feel a lot poorer*. Also in the U.K., for those middle income earners, the frozen tax bands have meant many are paying more tax. All whilst public services are on their arse. Not a great election winning combo

I was going to post earlier to say I’d be shocked if Sunak went for an early election as they’d want to wait until Ni cuts to start to make people feel a bit better off and hope for England to win euros for national feel good factor but sounds like it might be happening….maybe Sunak worrierd about our left back options

*GDP might be flying and CPI going down but if people are struggling to pay for the basics like food, rent, energy and petrol, those numbers are irrelevant in peoples every day lives
Click to expand...
Interest rates are more likely to have that effect!!
 

JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,344
Skybluekyle said:
Based on what I have read, it's looking like a General Election will almost certainly be announced today, most likely at 5pm. Date doing the rounds is the 04/07
Click to expand...
Independence day.

(Insert your own joke here).
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,345
CCFCSteve said:
Agreed, it’s how people feel and inflation has made people feel a lot poorer*. Also in the U.K., for those middle income earners, the frozen tax bands have meant many are paying more tax. All whilst public services are on their arse. Not a great election winning combo

I was going to post earlier to say I’d be shocked if Sunak went for an early election as they’d want to wait until Ni cuts to start to make people feel a bit better off and hope for England to win euros for national feel good factor but sounds like it might be happening….maybe Sunak worrierd about our left back options

*GDP might be flying and CPI going down but if people are struggling to pay for the basics like food, rent, energy and petrol, those numbers are irrelevant in peoples every day lives
Click to expand...

I do think inflation is quite lumpy as well and averages smooth things out. Plus the human habit of blaming rising prices on the government and rising wages on their own brilliance.
 
P

PVA

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,346
David O'Day said:
Madness for the tories if true
Click to expand...

I dunno, now is probably as good a time as any. Things aren't going to get any better for them and their base is literally dying off the longer they leave it.

The only benefit to waiting is the extra time to cream contracts and cash off to their mates, but electorally I'm not sure there's any benefit in waiting.
 
Reactions: Skybluekyle
S

Skybluekyle

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,347
shmmeee said:
I do think inflation is quite lumpy as well and averages smooth things out. Plus the human habit of blaming rising prices on the government and rising wages on their own brilliance.
Click to expand...
In fairness, wages has a direct government mechanism it can use to influence, the legal minimum wage, but inflation is usually market-driven. I guess this is the problem of laissez-faire economics
 
S

Skybluekyle

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,348
Announcement due imminently
 
C

CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,349
wingy said:
Interest rates are more likely to have that effect!!
Click to expand...

In terms of peoples lives, yeah, those that have had fixed rates come to an end or credit card balances etc. People will blame that on the government but it’s nothing to do with them really

It was another reason why I thought Sunak might wait as rates should reduce a bit during the year. Todays inflation numbers, whilst good, were higher than expected so many commentators think cuts might be delayed further. I personally think BoE should be cutting as I reckon, to some extent, the higher rates are now part of the cause of inflation/it’s stickiness but that’s a whole different discussion.
 
Reactions: shmmeee and wingy

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 22, 2024
  • #35,350
CCFCSteve said:
View attachment 35751
My monies on one of you lot setting up a false Fiona Harvey account
Click to expand...
@skybluetony176 was this you before you switched?
 
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 1008
  • 1009
  • 1010
  • 1011
  • 1012
  • …
  • 1497
Next
First Prev 1010 of 1497 Next Last
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

  • Total: 22 (members: 2, guests: 20)
    Share:
    Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email
    • Home
    • Forums
    • General Discussion
    • Off Topic Chat
    • Default Style
    • Contact us
    • Terms and rules
    • Privacy policy
    • Help
    • Home
    Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.
    Menu
    Log in

    Register

    • Home
    • Forums
      • New posts
      • Search forums
    • What's new
      • New posts
      • Latest activity
    • Members
      • Current visitors
    • Donate to the Season Ticket Fund
    X

    Privacy & Transparency

    We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

    • Personalized ads and content
    • Content measurement and audience insights

    Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

    X

    Privacy & Transparency

    We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

    • Personalized ads and content
    • Content measurement and audience insights

    Do you accept cookies and these technologies?