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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (27 Viewers)

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mrtrench

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #1
Then this is the thread for you!
Sponsored by HouchensHead.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #2
John Major, Norman Fowler,, Geoffrey Howe... dare I say it, Keir Starmer?

Boring enough?
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 15, 2020
  • #3
Norman Lamont had little going for him in the personality stakes
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2020
  • #4
Im in!
 
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RedSalmon

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2020
  • #5
Waits in anticipation!!!
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2020
  • #6
Waits in corridor and falls asleep.
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 15, 2020
  • #7
Politics isn't boring. It's show business for ugly people.
 
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Otis

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  • Jun 15, 2020
  • #8
Philosorapter said:
Politics isn't boring. It's show business for ugly people.
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Ha, ha. Love it!!!
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 15, 2020
  • #9
Was expecting this to be about the exploration of minerals and the environmental impacts associated with that.
 
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Otis

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  • Jun 15, 2020
  • #10
skybluetony176 said:
Was expecting this to be about the exploration of minerals and the environmental impacts associated with that.
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Instead, it's about the animals and the vegetables.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #11
Getting tasty on the Indian /Chinese border .
3 Indian soldiers killed this morning.
From what I've read it relates to logistics and a new road .
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #12
Kicking off in france too
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #13
Nick said:
Kicking off in france too
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Kicking off in the Premier league tomorrow night too.
 
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Otis

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  • Jun 16, 2020
  • #14
Am I now going to get banned for talking about football on a politics thread?
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 20, 2020
  • #15
Katie Hopkins banned from Twitter for 'abuse and hateful conduct'
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 30, 2020
  • #16
Lots of comment on the financial package today .
Underwhelming really .No budget till the Autumn.
Keeping some Powder dry for part Nationalisation for certain business's in exchange for Grant's/loans?
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Jul 1, 2020
  • #17
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 1, 2020
  • #18
Why is China going rogue?
Hearing some Blue Sky thinking.of giving 3M of HK residents their own enclave within , England ,I assume?
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 6, 2020
  • #19
Facebook is out of control. If it were a country it would be North Korea
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Jul 6, 2020
  • #20
wingy said:
Facebook is out of control. If it were a country it would be North Korea
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Yep....its right up there as one of the most toxic destructive manipulative companies to have existed....ever.

Anyone who reads that and doesn't delete their account today needs to give their head a wobble.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 6, 2020
  • #21
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Yep....its right up there as one of the most toxic destructive manipulative companies to have existed....ever.

Anyone who reads that and doesn't delete their account today needs to give their head a wobble.
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Wobble away, to channel the 2010 GE debates “I agree with Nick”, Facebook is a medium, it reflects its user base which is basically everyone. I could write a similar article about literally any communications method ever invented. Printing press: used to make propaganda easier. Telephone: drug deals and dirty phone calls. Letters: blackmail and anthrax attacks. Mobiles: the 2011 riots and bullying. Email: spam and scams galore. Smoke signals: probably organised a massacre at some point.

Shutting down worldwide communication isn’t the answer to us not liking how people talk to each other.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Jul 6, 2020
  • #22
The printing press is not the daily mail. The telephone is not BT. You're confusing online communication with facebook.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 6, 2020
  • #23
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
The printing press is not the daily mail. The telephone is not BT. You're confusing online communication with facebook.
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And you’re confusing an edited and published medium with a communications method. There is no one at Facebook making editorial decisions.

Social media can not be effectively moderated in the way you want, it’s all or nothing. Frankly I don’t want corporations deciding what counts as valid ideas even if it were possible.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Jul 6, 2020
  • #24
But facebook is much more than "social media".

Its effectively a publisher...something many lawyers have argued for a good long while...and something they've admitted themselves.



Is Facebook a publisher? In public it says no, but in court it says yes.

Lets face it, if grubby multi-nationals like Coca cola & Starbucks are currently boycotting it.....its surely about as poisonous as it gets
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 6, 2020
  • #25
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
But facebook is much more than "social media".

Its effectively a publisher...something many lawyers have argued for a good long while...and something they've admitted themselves.



Is Facebook a publisher? In public it says no, but in court it says yes.

Lets face it, if grubby multi-nationals like Coca cola & Starbucks are currently boycotting it.....its surely about as poisonous as it gets
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Stuff they put up themselves yes.

But the actual social media aspect of letting everyone mouth off is impossible to police. If they do it's censorship. If they don't it's allowing people to spread lies. You can't check that much content and relies on self-regulation, which any look through history will tell you never happens. There will always be some who will exploit it which will inevitably spread to others to counteract it and why we've ended up in this situation.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 6, 2020
  • #26
The “problem” with Facebook is the problem with the Internet. You can’t give everyone on the planet a printing press then hope to control what they’ve printed. Even if you went full on Diane Abbott wet dreams of insisting on a verifiable ID for all users the tech community would circumvent it in seconds.

Take down Facebook and Twitter and return to the disparate collection of privately run message boards like this one where we can’t even easily see who is doing what without massive effort.

As a society we face a choice: take the internet for what it is good and bad and act with curiosity towards behaviours it surfaces that we don’t like, or we try and stuff the genie back in the bottle and lose the Internet.

The problems the net surfaces are reflections of the problems in society, there’s no evidence they create them.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 6, 2020
  • #27
shmmeee said:
The “problem” with Facebook is the problem with the Internet. You can’t give everyone on the planet a printing press then hope to control what they’ve printed. Even if you went full on Diane Abbott wet dreams of insisting on a verifiable ID for all users the tech community would circumvent it in seconds.

Take down Facebook and Twitter and return to the disparate collection of privately run message boards like this one where we can’t even easily see who is doing what without massive effort.

As a society we face a choice: take the internet for what it is good and bad and act with curiosity towards behaviours it surfaces that we don’t like, or we try and stuff the genie back in the bottle and lose the Internet.

The problems the net surfaces are reflections of the problems in society, there’s no evidence they create them.
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Indeed.People making stuff up to further their own cause is as old as history itself. Goes back way before the written word. Stuff like racism/sexism/homophobia weren't created with the internet - it just gave a lot of people a much easier route to spread their opinions to a far wider audience than before.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 6, 2020
  • #28
They're broadcaster's and need to be subject to the same limitations.
They're not some bloke on a soapbox or the nutter in the corner at the bar who might get his teeth knocked out.
They circumvent Gov'ts
They are anarchistic .
That's not a good thing.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 15, 2020
  • #29
This was on the media this morning and pretty much discounted .
Guess it will be coming from somewhere or someone.

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Ian1779

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  • Jul 15, 2020
  • #30
The Julian Lewis situation is an interesting development.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 15, 2020
  • #31
Ian1779 said:
The Julian Lewis situation is an interesting development.
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A popular backbencher removed from the Tory party. Hopefully the backbenchers show some balls.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 15, 2020
  • #32
Haha
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 15, 2020
  • #33
Cancelled culture / sanctions/ coecertion intimidation .
Often terms associated to Union activities
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jul 15, 2020
  • #34
David O'Day said:
A popular backbencher removed from the Tory party. Hopefully the backbenchers show some balls.
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I didn’t realise that this may pave the way for the release of the Russia report - that’s gonna
piss Boris off...
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 15, 2020
  • #35
Ian1779 said:
The Julian Lewis situation is an interesting development.
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It is indeed. Doesn't reflect well on Johnson. Attempt to coerce Lewis into toeing the line?
 
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