From the silence I take it that Sisu have never come out and stated what their "reasonable rent", would be. Is this not an indication of their motives?
:thinking about:There's a lot more happening at the Ricoh than a 'couple of pop concerts a year'.
Sorry, I must have missed that statement.I thought Fisher had implied we should be only be paying about £150,000 a year, in line with the League 1 average.
£200,000 - very reasonable I'd say
I thought Fisher had implied we should be only be paying about £150,000 a year, in line with the League 1 average.
Will they spend over 1 million a year for the privilege?
The going rate is apparently £400,00
but some can't even afford that
Am I right in saying this is match day running costs at £10k per match plus £150k rent so approx £400k total?
If this is the case I'd say that seemed a fair level but what do I know.
Am I right in saying this is match day running costs at £10k per match plus £150k rent so approx £400k total?
If this is the case I'd say that seemed a fair level but what do I know.
Let's look at some facts here:-I see that those who complained that we were not investing in the squad would now prefer the club to make huge cuts in the playing budget to make sure that the club continues to pay a huge amount of rent. Surely it would not be right for anyone new looking to invest in the club to seek a reduction in rent either as it wouldn't be right. No one is ever going to agree to pay £1.2m a year rent for a club in league 1, it is utter madness.
Then we should make further cuts in the playing staff to ensure that we continue to pay the rent.
Of course SISU can afford it, this is what they do best...the council/acl don't have a chance and will eventually give in.
Name one other similar venue which has no regular sporting team in it.
That is the figure that Fisher has turned down No to £400.000 yet the other 2 directors said accept it?
You just have to love the democracy of the board or is there another motive ?
maybe that has been publicised on here many times
Let's look at some facts here:-
1. Sisu carried out "due diligence", and therefore knew of the lease terms.
2. Sisu got us relegated by non-investment in the team.
3. As a result of relegation a loss of income occurred
4. Who therefore is responsible for this present situation?
And now they want everyone to take the hit that they alone are responsible for!
Let's look at some facts here:-
1. Sisu carried out "due diligence", and therefore knew of the lease terms.
2. Sisu got us relegated by non-investment in the team.
3. As a result of relegation a loss of income occurred
4. Who therefore is responsible for this present situation?
And now they want everyone to take the hit that they alone are responsible for!
Indeed it is.
Portman Road is currently owned by the council, yet Ipswich pay £110K rent a year.
Those who are siding with ACL on this matter are making fools out of themselves. If Hoffman was trying to get the best price for CCFC he would be hailed as a saviour and fighting for our future.
So your backing the bullies of SISU that are trying to rip off a council and charity?
Yes we could well do with getting rid of our none playing 'players'
You under estimate the who has the upper hand ...we will see
So your backing the bullies of SISU that are trying to rip off a council and charity?
Let's look at some facts here:-
1. Sisu carried out "due diligence", and therefore knew of the lease terms.
2. Sisu got us relegated by non-investment in the team.
3. As a result of relegation a loss of income occurred
4. Who therefore is responsible for this present situation?
And now they want everyone to take the hit that they alone are responsible for!
No, I am backing CCFC who are being ripped off and slowly bled to death.
I have never been a fan of Ranson & SISU, but it doesn't mean that I want the club to completely die or ripped off.
So your backing the bullies of SISU that are trying to rip off a council and charity?
Well I want everyone else to take the hit if the alternative is paying a rent we can't afford and risks the clubs futureLet's look at some facts here:-
1. Sisu carried out "due diligence", and therefore knew of the lease terms.
2. Sisu got us relegated by non-investment in the team.
3. As a result of relegation a loss of income occurred
4. Who therefore is responsible for this present situation?
And now they want everyone to take the hit that they alone are responsible for!
There are plenty in the squad that we could get rid of, people were tied to long-term contracts by the last board and manager. I am sure Robins & the latest board would love to unload them onto someone else.
SISU are experts at this sort of thing, it is what makes hedge funds so successful.
5 years of sisu success ............
yer right hedge funds that are successful are in and gone within 5 years
You best not drink any more tonight
It was given the reduced rent it craved but turned it down and resorted to violating the contract for 9 months rather than bother to negotiate again. Yes, all hail Tim 'Honest' Fisher.
No, I am backing CCFC who are being ripped off and slowly bled to death.
I have never been a fan of Ranson & SISU, but it doesn't mean that I want the club to completely die or ripped off.
No one is ever going to takeover or invest in a League 1 club paying 1.2m rent a year. As I have said, if it was Hoffman using these tactics he would be being lauded by the majority now and the pitchforks would be out for 'the council & charity'.
Of course CCFC will not be seen as a success on their portfolio, but it is probably only a tiny part.
Their mistake was being duped into buying the club by Ranson and going along with it, they invested money yet poor decisions by Ranson meant a lot of money was wasted. They were never gong to have millions to flush down the toilet like so many would like.
The club may as well be shut down now, as no one would pay the rent which is being asked, and it wouldn't be right either. Therefore the whole thing is not sustainable and we would be better off being put out of our misery. At least no one would get ripped off anymore.
Well as its tax payers money at stake, surly we should ask the tax payers of this city - which is around 400,000. So the average attendance is around 10000, which leaves 390,000 that should have a say. If the club was so well supported then they wouldn't be in this mess!!!
I take it you don't support the club.Well as its tax payers money at stake, surly we should ask the tax payers of this city - which is around 400,000. So the average attendance is around 10000, which leaves 390,000 that should have a say. If the club was so well supported then they wouldn't be in this mess!!!
It was offered reduced rent yes, but not the level they want. The first offer of £600k and alleged new offer of £400k is still significantly higher than the championship and league one average.
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!st probably also may not be and it may be more than they can afford to lose we will never know
2nd how do we know that sisu didn't employ him to look for football club, they tried quite a few
we were just the unlucky ones
3rd No one woluld pay £400,000 but a multiiple of other uses combined using the place wouldn't take much.
Lets have it your way let sisu in for free then get a discounted price to buy the ricoh and we will then get ripped off more than you have ever seen in the past
If something cost me £20 to make and I wanted to sell it to you for £110 you'd say it was a rip off.
There is no difference here. Everyone needs to make a profit and ACL are no different but the kind of margin they seem to want to make is not sustainable.
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