coun·ter·sue(kount r-s )tr.v. coun·ter·sued, coun·ter·su·ing, coun·ter·sues LawTo bring proceedings against (a plaintiff) in direct opposition to a suit brought against onself.
Higgs sued first. Just saying like.
Well if I run the Higgs Trust the the academy would be getting booted out of Allard Way for a start-what are the implications for them now they have only just renegotiated a return:thinking about:
Even if CCC did plan to sell the debt to Sisu, what's legally wrong with changing their mind?
obviously nothing was signed or agreed. Is it illegal to find a better option?
(of course assuming the JR finds the loan was legal)
the sad things is they proberly are.Yes the JR another court date. Great...we will have more court dates than football fixtures soon and might as well put legal team signings on the website as opposed to players becasue SISUs legal squad is bigger, better paid, and better supported by them than the team.
Rob S wrote:
"This could actually be a good thing (or at least contain some good things). Hear me out...
A lot of the back & forth about who said & did what in whatever negotiation/meeting/downstairs toilet has never really come out properly in public. These actions (sue & counter-sue), if they end up in court*, will mean that what happened with the ACL/Higgs/CCC/Sisu rent deal that got called off will be discussed in open court where every single protagonist will be legally bound to tell the truth, the whole truth etc."
In my opinion, that's unfortunately not always what happens in court. Sometimes, in court witnesses have distorted recollection of such meetings. For example in 2005, a High Court judge stated:
"Ms Seppala was the least satisfactory of all the witnesses. In making my general comments above, I said that no-one was deliberately lying. But I fear Ms Seppala has a distorted recollection of some events – particularly about what happened at the meetings in New York in January 2005 – and, with the benefit of hindsight, has introduced a "spin" (I am sorry not to be able to find a better word) which suits the Applicants' case. She is also prone to exaggerate – the Respondents would characterise it as lying, but I give her the benefit of the doubt on that.................
coun·ter·sue(kount r-s )tr.v. coun·ter·sued, coun·ter·su·ing, coun·ter·sues LawTo bring proceedings against (a plaintiff) in direct opposition to a suit brought against onself.
Higgs sued first. Just saying like.
Thats not news. PWKH said they're suing ages ago and that's why they won't talk to Sisu until the deb is paid.
I think that proves my point. She got called out by the judge and it's written in documents we still have access to. At the moment, a lot of what is known is based on the conflicting output from the various sides involved, their PR companies and supporters. People can pick whoever they want to agree with and make up their mind based on that.
With a court case, every side & every possible person will be placed on the stand to be quizzed by both sides' barristers, just as would happen with a full investigation.
It might not be pretty, it might not be quick but, at the moment, this seems like the best route to the actual truth rather than what different people might want to be the truth.
I imagine a lot of people will be having those exact same thoughts. Another massive PR own goal by SISU, God knows who is advising them. It is though they have got a death wish. They have become so consumed with hatred towards the Council/ACL they seem to have taken leave of their senses. Even if they were to win their various court battles which doesn't seem likely, it will surely end up a pyrrhic victory, as fans continue to turn their back on these clowns.I've always been in the 'would go back to the Ricoh even if SISU were in charge', this report breaking today is the first time I've thought about changing that stance.
I imagine a lot of people will be having those exact same thoughts. Another massive PR own goal by SISU, God knows who is advising them. It is though they have got a death wish. They have become so consumed with hatred towards the Council/ACL they seem to have taken leave of their senses. Even if they were to win their various court battles which doesn't seem likely, it will surely end up a pyrrhic victory, as fans continue to turn their back on these clowns.
It has been since day 1. And they have no shame in the way they claim their prize, low lifes.It is all about getting the freehold to the Ricoh. They don't give a shit about PR or us fans.
I couldn't agree with Houdi more ... They really are so void of any ideas when it comes to PR ... it's like they are running the club in a vaccuum ?
It is all about getting the freehold to the Ricoh. They don't give a shit about PR or us fans.
They don't give a shit about PR or us fans.
We used to run the club in a vacuum years ago.
At least we did when we had Paul Dyson here.
Whilst I don't for a second believe you're incorrect I do find it odd people seem shocked by this. Like anybody who has come near the club in the last 15 or 20 years or will after Sisu, they don't give a shit about the fans, it's about making money.
You want a club run for the fans then you need the German model where companies can only buy a percentage, overall controlled is retained by fans in the form of a membership. Given that's currently a million miles off the current English model though it's a pointless conversation.
Anyone remember Richard Brush ?
Am I missuing something here? Higgs are suing SISU for £30k not SISU suing Higgs
Am I missuing something here? Higgs are suing SISU for £30k not SISU suing Higgs
Am I missuing something here? Higgs are suing SISU for £30k not SISU suing Higgs
Well that time she got found out, next time her recollection is distorted in court perhaps she won't.
I think most people worry about an organisation who makes it's living in court and two public bodies who don't matching up. I'm not sure it's a fair fight and I'm not sure it would lead to any "truth" coming out.
You're missing the fact negotiations to buy the share broke down many many months before CCC brought the debt and they only needed to buy the debt as sisu wern't paying the rent.
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