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  • Start date Jan 14, 2023
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pusbccfc

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #36
clint van damme said:
I appreciate this may not have prevented what happened yesterday but I've said for a long time now how difficult would it be to put up signs to let people know there is going to be a minutes silence?
There's often people coming in late or in the concourse who are unaware it's going on.

Of course if twats are going to start shouting deliberately that's another issue but often I think it's just people who don't know its happening.
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It wouldn't stop the tiny number who deliberately did but it would certainly help the fans coming up from the concourse.
 
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Kilclines curly mullet

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #37
pusbccfc said:
Give over. It's not 1983.
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Say that when Sunderland visit us in Feb.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #38
theferret said:
Condemn the arseholes yesterday of course, but not buying this hand-wringing that it is 'every week' or that it's getting worse.

Is it? Only missed a couple of away games and yet yesterday was the 1st time I've seen anything approaching genuine trouble. Saw more last season.

You get obnoxious pricks in the away end, but that's always been so, but we're taking bigger away followings now so there are just more of them and issues like standing in gangways become more apparent. Seeing nothing now I didn't see 15 years ago.
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Spot on. There is anti-social behaviour but it's not even close to what it used to be like. It's also similar to big followings in the last 10 years.
The difference now is our regular going fan base has increased at home and is slightly higher away.

It's a national issue and it's not just football and certainly not Coventry City. We have a culture of lads between 14-30 currently who are doing this in pubs, at the darts, boxing and cricket.

It's a social issue and I personally think a lot of it stems down to mental health and a lack of things to do. People working hard during the week earning shit wages, can't buy property, have been locked up for 2 years and they think the only way or a blow out is going to the football and drinking 10 pints and taking coke.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #39
Kilclines curly mullet said:
Say that when Sunderland visit us in Feb.
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What are you actually suggesting is going to happen?
 
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theferret

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #40
Kilclines curly mullet said:
In the 2 years / 18 months since lockdown ended I’ve seen more incidents than in the previous 30 years of watching us.

When I say incidents I don’t mean full on fighting but pockets of trouble / more aggression. I’ve certainly seen more people actively taking drugs with no care of who is watching

Maybe before I was naive and didn’t see it - maybe threads on here have made me more aware so I see it

The fact that the cub (and other clubs) are making statements about behaviour says it all
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I think these things appear more prevalent because they are fresh in the memory.

I mentioned 15 years ago, but same applies to 5 years ago or 20, no real difference. Around 15 years ago or so remember going to QPR and it being far worse than yesterday. Some revenge trip as they had caused grief at our place, which had spilled over from Ibiza. So these silly fueds like this one with Burnley come and go and always have.

Perhaps last season, immediately post lockdown, it was noticeable and we had a few clubs bring twats looking for grief. Nothing this season though, it seems to be back to how it always was. Yesterday a bit of an outlier I think.
 
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theferret

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #41
pusbccfc said:
What are you actually suggesting is going to happen?
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Nothing will happen when we play Sunderland, just like the last 3 times we've played them.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #42
theferret said:
Nothing will happen when we play Sunderland, just like the last 3 times we've played them.
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Exactly. It will be people shouting behind police fences and barriers.

In fact, probably not even that.
 

torchomatic

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #43
We've always been impeccable at silences and shown great respect.

I remember being at Old Trafford for the 30th anniversary of the Munich Air Disaster in 88 and you could hear a pin drop. Alex Ferguson publicly praised us.

Too many walkers travel away nowadays and make away days a lot less enjoyable.
 

alexccfc99

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #44

I can’t believe someone thought that starting a tweet with “One of the few good things Hitler did” was a completely normal way of beginning a rant
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #45
alexccfc99 said:

I can’t believe someone thought that starting a tweet with “One of the few good things Hitler did” was a completely normal way of beginning a rant
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I thought it was only Coventry fans who had a few bad eggs?
 

alexccfc99

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #46
theferret said:
Nothing will happen when we play Sunderland, just like the last 3 times we've played them.
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They’ll come down on coaches, drink somewhere outside the City Centre - Probably Hinckley or Nuneaton, claim they’ve “taken owaaaa man” then scurry off after the match, as always
 
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theferret

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #47
torchomatic said:
We've always been impeccable at silences and shown great respect.

I remember being at Old Trafford for the 30th anniversary of the Munich Air Disaster in 88 and you could hear a pin drop. Alex Ferguson publicly praised us.

Too many walkers travel away nowadays and make away days a lot less enjoyable.
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We've been impeccable at silences the last few seasons too, yesterday a complete one off imo.

I was at OT in 88. You're right, but you talk as though we wouldn't do the same today, when absolutely we would. I do also remember a city fan being arrested that day and doing airplane signs as he was escorted round the pitch. There have always been arseholes is the point.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #48
zuni said:
Not everyone who wears the labels is signifying they want trouble, I do and hate fighting at the football, never done coke either, unfortunately I recognise that that is the association but pl don’t generalise it as everyone.

I wasn’t there today bput hoped it was people coming in late, disgraceful if it wasn’t but as we know morons are morons and we have had it at city, even the apparently higher educated wasps fans who made cheap jibes at Coventry being blitzed to try and look clever…cock wombles the lot without manners.
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Honestly I'd have another think about the labels you wear. You aren't going to change the association alone.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #49
Absolutely nobody has said it’s just Coventry fans. Yes, the obnoxiousness from a growing number is getting worse and just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Football fan can’t enjoy himself without being a pits of society c**t.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #50
Tommo1993 said:
Absolutely nobody has said it’s just Coventry fans. Yes, the obnoxiousness from a growing number is getting worse and just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Football fan can’t enjoy himself without being a pits of society c**t.
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You're also allowed to agree that Coventry fans doing it is wrong but then also recognise this isn't just a football fan thing. These people do it at darts, boxing, horse racing and cricket.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #51
Will never go away there are always knuckle draggers look at the Wheatsheaf on match more baldys and grey hairs than bits of kids, these types are at all clubs the only good thing nowadays is they tend to clash with the same types, back in the bad old days any fan even with little kids were fair game to be attacked.
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Tommo1993

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #52
pusbccfc said:
You're also allowed to agree that Coventry fans doing it is wrong but then also recognise this isn't just a football fan thing. These people do it at darts, boxing, horse racing and cricket.
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Oh it’s certainly not exclusive to football either. I’ve seen worse at horse racing than I’ve ever seen inside a football stadium - actual fighting-wise, that is.
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #53
Zero condoning the actions during the silence as that is disrespectful and they need a reminder of what respect means in a language they understand. However for context I think it's worth reflecting on the banning orders we have and arrest totals vs other clubs for a bit of perspective:

Report reveals which clubs had most arrests and banning orders for 2021/22 season - Fan Banter

A new report reveals which clubs had the most arrests and banning orders for the 2021/22 season as football disorder reaches an 8-year high. Arrests and reported incidents of disorder at football matches in England and Wales last season were at their highest level for eight years with 2,198...
fanbanter.co.uk

We're not on the top 10 for arrests or banning orders. Bolton, Birmingham, Plymouth and Derby all far worse. There is an excel spreadsheet that shows the Coventry figures but they are not very noteworthy vs the norm.

This does not however excuse the idiots yesterday or suggest class A's and alcohol abuse at games are issues we like most teams need to do some work on.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #54
Are these incidents not just more signs of a growing confidence amongst the youth to flout law and order and show very little respect to anyone. It seems endemic right through Schools and in society. The police become powerless because the courts are pathetic and too soft. There is always some do gooder coming up with excuses as to why they behave like they do.
As for the drugs , how do you stop it ? It’s hardly difficult to smuggle in a tiny amount of white powder to stadiums.
As for Burnley, home of the BNP etc , I doubt they are all angels either .
How many City fans were up there ?
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #55
Ashdown said:
Are these incidents not just more signs of a growing confidence amongst the youth to flout law and order and show very little respect to anyone. It seems endemic right through Schools and in society. The police become powerless because the courts are pathetic and too soft. There is always some do gooder coming up with excuses as to why they behave like they do.
As for the drugs , how do you stop it ? It’s hardly difficult to smuggle in a tiny amount of white powder to stadiums.
As for Burnley, home of the BNP etc , I doubt they are all angels either .
How many City fans were up there ?
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Yep. No trouble in Qatar because everyone was scared of getting into trouble. Not the same here.

Not that I want militant policing.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #56
Drug taking at games has always gone on and is nothing new.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #57
Deleted member 5849 said:
That's not a justification
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Didn’t say it was, but labelling cov as the only disrespectful team in the world is a joke, what would you like me to do about it? Track them down and hand them to the police for singing ?
 

eastwoodsdustman

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #58
Sick Boy said:
Drug taking at games has always gone on and is nothing new.
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I went to the loo yesterday before kick off and there was a queue out onto the concourse. Imagine my surprise that there were about 10 lads waiting for the cubicles and the urinals were all free!
must have been a lot of dodgy curries the night before
 
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ajsccfc

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #59
Although I'd not like to hear any more from Burnley fan Doug, I'm a little curious about the other few good things Hitler did.
 

ccfctommy

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #60
Warwickshire lad said:
It was a f****** disgrace and it’s getting worse.
Too many coke heads following us. The bogs are full of them at home too.
FFS the police must monitor this forum. Time for the heavy hands of the law to round them up.
And if twats try to stop the arrests kin give em a good slap, and arrest them as well.
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Grass
 

eastwoodsdustman

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #61
ajsccfc said:
Although I'd not like to hear any more from Burnley fan Doug, I'm a little curious about the other few good things Hitler did.
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Autobhans
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #62
ajsccfc said:
Although I'd not like to hear any more from Burnley fan Doug, I'm a little curious about the other few good things Hitler did.
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Yesterday was the first time I have been since I was very young - It’s so easy to see why the BNP got in there, massive small town mentality vibe, every pub very cliquey (the sort where you are the centre of attention as you are not a local) not a particularly welcoming place at all - Cov gets it’s stick and rightly so but I’m proud of its diversity

Really not an away day I’d drop all my plans to do again
 
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Danceswithhorses

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #63
I know it's not the same, but a minutes applause for someone who has passed, to celebrate their life, is something which can't be ruined by some braindead boozed/coked up idiots.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #64
I'm not defending it but there was no PA about a minute's silence and the noise was fans coming up from the concourse
 

Covcraig@bury

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #65
It was definitely fans coming up from the concourse. They probably didn’t know at that time what was going on . The only trouble I seen walking back to my car was a group of Burnley fans giving it large to a couple of our fans . When our fans crossed the road to have a go they threw bottles then legged it ( 6 fingered inbred shit houses )
 
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Kilclines curly mullet

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #66
fernandopartridge said:
I'm not defending it but there was no PA about a minute's silence and the noise was fans coming up from the concourse
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Mate you must have been at a different game - the announcement was clear.
Agreed that the noise was originally from the concourse but then once it had quietened down some starting singing that Burnley is a shithole.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #67
Kilclines curly mullet said:
Mate you must have been at a different game - the announcement was clear.
Agreed that the noise was originally from the concourse but then once it had quietened down some starting singing that Burnley is a shithole.
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You couldn't hear the PA in the concourse
 
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Kilclines curly mullet

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #68
fernandopartridge said:
You couldn't hear the PA in the concourse
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I get that and I can understand why some people coming up from the concours wouldn’t know - totally appreciate that point

The starting of “Burnley’s a shithole” was from Fans already in their seats
 
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rob9872

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #69
Tbf we were late in and pissed yesterday and I didn't know there was or had been a minutes silence. I can't remember if we were some of the arseholes or if the game had already kicked off. I know I went for the world's longest piss on the way in. Certainly didn't hear any shushing so assume and hope we missed it.
 

rob9872

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  • Jan 15, 2023
  • #70
It's all good, mates confirmed game had already kicked off but I wouldn't have put my last quid on it. Now I can join the pile on ... they were disrespectful wankers
 
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