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Did Sisu appeal? (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jul 23, 2017
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #36
Covstu said:
Has it been confirmed that sisu are picking up costs for all parties? With wasps, council and AH that would be quite a bill on top of their own!
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Yes but not vat and I read it was about 90k
 
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stgeorge1966

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #37
YEP !!!
 

Sub

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #38
STATEMENT: Club can confirm owners appeal of High Court judgement

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #39
STATEMENT: Club can confirm owners appeal of High Court judgement

"we will continue to work with Wasps/ACL et etc" (while trying to sue the **** out of them!)
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #40
Not surprised, SISU using the Club again.. Can't see this ever ending.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #41
Sky Blue Harry H said:
STATEMENT: Club can confirm owners appeal of High Court judgement

"we will continue to work with Wasps/ACL et etc" (while trying to sue the **** out of them!)
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Astute

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #42
For once it is a shame Fisher has gone quiet. It is times like this where he comes out with a true comedy quote.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #43
Doing the same things expecting different results. What a bunch of dumb fucks. The clubs doomed so long as they stay, dragging us down with them.
 
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harvey098

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #44
What I find more noticeable on this statement is the attempt to distance the "owners" and the "football club".
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #45
If that gets thrown it, can they try anything else or is that it?
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #46
harvey098 said:
What I find more noticeable on this statement is the attempt to distance the "owners" and the "football club".
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It's because people who are employed by* the Club actually care for it and care for what they do, where as "the owners" just couldn't care less.
 
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hill83

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #47
Nick said:
If that gets thrown it, can they try anything else or is that it?
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Captain Dart

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #48
Nick said:
If that gets thrown it, can they try anything else or is that it?
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There are plenty more ways to throw good money after bad.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #49
Nick said:
If that gets thrown it, can they try anything else or is that it?
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Appeal the decision not to let them appeal?
 

Astute

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #50
Nick said:
If that gets thrown it, can they try anything else or is that it?
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I would like to think that is it. But this is SISU you are talking about.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #51
Nobody is surprised though are they?
 

skyblueinBaku

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #52
Very disappointing news, but not unexpected. How much longer can they drag this out?
 

Astute

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #53
Nick said:
Nobody is surprised though are they?
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I'd have been surprised if they didn't appeal. And I expect them to appeal if this appeal is turned down.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #54
Do Judges get paid based on it? Surely there is a cut off point of appealing where they can say no.
 

Sub

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #55
i dread to think of the cost in money to all parties involved in these stupid claims
 

sky_blue_up_north

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #56
Doing the same thing and expecting a different result.... um that makes sense
 
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Covstu

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #57
Surely to lodge an appeal you need evidence (usually new) that contradicts the outcome rather than 'we just don't agree with it'??
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #58
sky_blue_up_north said:
Doing the same thing and expecting a different result.... um that makes sense
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Doubt they are expecting a different result.
 
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Houdi

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #59
Sky Blue Harry H said:
STATEMENT: Club can confirm owners appeal of High Court judgement

"we will continue to work with Wasps/ACL et etc" (while trying to sue the **** out of them!)
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Exactly, now put yourselves in Wasp's shoes are you really wanting to do a new deal with SISU. Would you really want SISU as your tenants for years to come, with the constant worry/threat of further legal actions. The real worry is that SISU don't even seem that bothered that the club will be effectively homeless in a matter of months.
 
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hotrod

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #60
Here we go again, I can only presume the reason behind a new appeal is,until Sisu have exhausted every avenue of legal action they will not have to pay any of the legal costs awarded against them in all of the previous Court actions.

There is also the possibility that the Courts will refuse them "Leave to Appeal"

Regards.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #61
Has anybody (cleverer than me - and there'll be a lot of you out there) listed the potential exhaustive list of 'appeals' etc that they can do? I would quite like to know if they have completed 7 out 10 possible avenues (for example). Apologies if there is already a list out there.
 

no_loyalty

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #62
I hope their appeal is dismissed by the courts fairly quickly, otherwise we could be stuck with these muppets for at least another couple of years
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #63
It's unbelievable, what company (SISU) is able to get away with distressing one of its own companies, as well as CCC/ACL/Wasps
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #64
Houdi said:
Exactly, now put yourselves in Wasp's shoes are you really wanting to do a new deal with SISU. Would you really want SISU as your tenants for years to come, with the constant worry/threat of further legal actions. The real worry is that SISU don't even seem that bothered that the club will be effectively homeless in a matter of months.
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Depends how much they want a stadium naming rights deal and how important it is to their business plan. After all, money talks.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #65
SkyBlueZack said:
Depends how much they want a stadium naming rights deal and how important it is to their business plan. After all, money talks.
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I am sure a 4th division football team with owners whose aspirations are purely for the club to fund itself (4th/3rd division).
Hardly set the world alight when it comes to naming rights.
We should hold naming rights as an ACE card but for that to be the case we need to at least be in the championship.
Instead we are someone who contributes to probably about 5-10% (guess) of Wasps income and currently are threatening them to the tune of 35 million.
 
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Astute

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #66
Nick said:
If that gets thrown it, can they try anything else or is that it?
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They can do more appeals. And am sure that if they get as far as the High Court and get turned down they can go to the European Court of justice
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #67
Covstu said:
Surely to lodge an appeal you need evidence (usually new) that contradicts the outcome rather than 'we just don't agree with it'??
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No. Just that you think the judge got it wrong. Just like last time when Fisher knew the law better than the judge......
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #68
dongonzalos said:
I am sure a 4th division football team with owners whose aspirations are purely for the club to fund itself (4th/3rd division).
Hardly set the world alight when it comes to naming rights.
We should hold naming rights as an ACE card but for that to be the case we needs to at least be in the championship.
Instead we are someone who contributes to probably about 5-10% (guess) of Wasps income and currently are threatening them to the tune of 35 million.
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So why have they not announced a naming rights deal then? Why does it seem that any deal hinges on CCFC's commitment to the arena?

If CCFC are as big an irrelevance as people like you and Italia say, please tell us all why Wasps haven't managed to secure a deal for naming rights. Despite finishing top of their league. Despite the big name signings.
 
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Astute

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  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #69
SkyBlueZack said:
Depends how much they want a stadium naming rights deal and how important it is to their business plan. After all, money talks.
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Depends how much you would want a tenant who is abusing the law trying to make you pay 30m more for something you 'own' already.

Yes money talks.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2017
  • #70
SkyBlueZack said:
So why have they not announced a naming rights deal then? Why does it seem that any deal hinges on CCFC's commitment to the arena?

If CCFC are as big an irrelevance as people like you and Italia say, please tell us all why Wasps haven't managed to secure a deal for naming rights. Despite finishing top of their league. Despite the big name signings.
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Would you want to put your companies name all over something and pay millions for the pleasure when it is all over the media as maybe being dodgy?

Maybe that is why SISU are doing it. Trying to starve Wasps of income. Because they could certainly do with it.
 
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