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Did anyone see Eccles (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Aug 31, 2024
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Pusb1

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #36
skyblu3sk said:
Not sure we were watching the same game did brilliantly defensively helped the defence out no end.
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they were literally walking through our entire midfield 2nd half?

we’ll have to agree to disagree Josh
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #37
Saddlebrains said:
I feel like a bit of a dickhead for posting it when no one else seemingly seen it, I promise I haven't made it up as my lad sat next to me also said the same

Maybe he was annoyed he had a knock and asked to come off or something but it didn't sit right with me whatsoever
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Or Saying what the F**k is Allan coming on for.
 
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Calista

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #38
Pusb1 said:
did well at doing what?

Scoring no
adding creativity no
defensively no
assisting no

the odd diagonal ball at best.

he offers nothing
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He's playing as an anchorman, and you want him scoring and assisting. And you don't think he contributes defensively??
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #39
To be honest there was visible frustration from a lot of players. Eccles though is one of the few who can hold his head up about his performance today.
 
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Great_Expectations

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #40
Yea I saw it, it went for quite while and was pretty expressive so I thought most would have seen it.

Impossible to tell what it was about, but I thought it was as an interaction with Boetang. Eccles was 100% pissed off about something but I highly doubt it was not being subbed.

Debate Eccles qualities all you like, but one thing you cannot doubt is his commitment.
 
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Calista

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #41
Pusb1 said:
they were literally walking through our entire midfield 2nd half?
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We were outnumbered in the middle of the pitch.
 
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #42
Ok, so most will see me comment and think here we go, as I do hammer Eccles possibly more than others, but as I’ve said before I like to think I give a balanced view, and today I thought he was one of our better players, particularly first half with Torp, who also looked good in that midfield - although Josh did give one shocking pass away in our half that could’ve led to a goal.

He tired second half, understandably, but I think generally he had a good game today. He does have a habit of throwing his hands up, did it a fair bit today, so not sure it was directed at the substitution - only he will know that.

The problem we do have though is that there weren’t many, if any, quality balls from the midfield leading to a chance for any of the front three, and I am even more convinced Rudoni is a much better central midfield option that a 10 / pushed further forward. As a result, we are left now with the conundrum of do we play Torp up there and Rudoni dropped back, or chance EMC or BTA? Kasey Palmer gone and no replacement means we don’t have anybody to naturally fill the ‘playmaker’ role, and that’s a worry…
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #43
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
Ok, so most will see me comment and think here we go, as I do hammer Eccles possibly more than others, but as I’ve said before I like to think I give a balanced view, and today I thought he was one of our better players, particularly first half with Torp, who also looked good in that midfield - although Josh did give one shocking pass away in our half that could’ve led to a goal.

He tired second half, understandably, but I think generally he had a good game today. He does have a habit of throwing his hands up, did it a fair bit today, so not sure it was directed at the substitution - only he will know that.

The problem we do have though is that there weren’t many, if any, quality balls from the midfield leading to a chance for any of the front three, and I am even more convinced Rudoni is a much better central midfield option that a 10 / pushed further forward. As a result, we are left now with the conundrum of do we play Torp up there and Rudoni dropped back, or chance EMC or BTA? Kasey Palmer gone and no replacement means we don’t have anybody to naturally fill the ‘playmaker’ role, and that’s a worry…
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Simms was put through first half in fairness
 

speedie87

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #44
I think anyone who slags off Eccles this season really doesn’t grasp how bad Torp has been and with the formation the way it is the Rudoni playing ten role he’s basically 1 v 3 in the middle of the park.
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #45
Calista said:
He's playing as an anchorman, and you want him scoring and assisting. And you don't think he contributes defensively??
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60% of the time Eccles plays well, every time
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #46
Pusb1 said:
honestly this baffles me. Same as the caller after the match who was screaming for Taveres to start..

honestly what were you watching? what did he contribute? were you actually watching that they were bypassing our midfield at every single opportunity?

Eccles doesn’t score goals. I get slated moaning about his defensive work because i constantly get told he’s “not a defensive midfielder” but he also doesn’t assist.

so i ask back. what is he good at doing exactly? Besides the odd diagonal and backwards pass?
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This is bollocks, sorry. Eccles had one of his best games today. He’s winning the ball much more and being much more progressive with his passes.
 
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #47
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Simms was put through first half in fairness
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I did say there weren’t many, if any - if you can only remember one it kind of proves my point
 
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Pusb1

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #48
shmmeee said:
This is bollocks, sorry. Eccles had one of his best games today. He’s winning the ball much more and being much more progressive with his passes.
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i’m sorry but that’s the bare minimum.

If he was called Fabio Ecchinio and cost 2 million pounds from South America and was putting in these performances he’d be quite rightly slaughtered.

He can’t, and shouldn’t continue to get away with his performances because he’s “one of our own”

Again, he wouldn’t stand out as ‘brilliant’ in a league 2 team
 
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Boicey

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #49
Saddlebrains said:
I mean he was invisible second half like but


I Saw something that absolutely fucking infuriated me today btw

Eccles threw his hands up in a fucking paddy when he saw it was Torp being subbed off, not him

He's Cov kid, and we would all die to be in his position, to wave your arms around and stamp about like a little bitch because he didn't fancy carrying on really fucking grated me

I don't have time for things like that. As I'm sure all of us as fans wouldn't
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Absolute horseshit take that.
You should be ashamed spreading crap like that.
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #50
Pusb1 said:
they were literally walking through our entire midfield 2nd half?

we’ll have to agree to disagree Josh
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Did you not see the number of times he chased back and took it off the players feet before they got to the defence even when they broke the midfield lines or him making last ditch blocks in the box?
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #51
Pusb1 said:
did well at doing what?

Scoring no
adding creativity no
defensively no
assisting no

the odd diagonal ball at best.

he offers nothing
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Eccles was the only one putting any defensive effort in today.Made some good tackles and interceptions.
Carried Torp and Rudoni all afternoon.
It’s obvious you don’t rate him.But even if he wasn’t great, he was the best we had today.
 
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #52
Old Warwickshire lad said:
Eccles was the only one putting any defensive effort in today.Made some good tackles and interceptions.
Carried Torp and Rudoni all afternoon.
It’s obvious you don’t rate him.But even if he wasn’t great, he was the best we had today.
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don’t agree entirely with this - Torp first half was as good and put himself about the best I’ve seen him, made some very good strong challenges, faded second half because we weren’t in control of the ball and had to chase shadows.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #53
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
don’t agree entirely with this - Torp first half was as good and put himself about the best I’ve seen him, made some very good strong challenges, faded second half because we weren’t in control of the ball and had to chase shadows.
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Not sure I agree, thought he struggled a lot similar to previous games. Guilty of just gifting possession away far too often.
 
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Pusb1

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #54
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
don’t agree entirely with this - Torp first half was as good and put himself about the best I’ve seen him, made some very good strong challenges, faded second half because we weren’t in control of the ball and had to chase shadows.
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first 15 minutes Torp was good

Then inexplicably he was then absolutely blowing out his arse from then onwards and looked completely unable to move in any direction
 

2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #55
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not sure I agree, thought he struggled a lot similar to previous games. Guilty of just gifting possession away far too often.
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definitely second half, but first half he did well I thought, in fact I even commented how much stronger he was going into challenges and winning back the ball - we were much better than Norwich first half pretty much all over the pitch, just didn’t have the end result
 
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clint van damme

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #56
Calista said:
He's playing as an anchorman, and you want him scoring and assisting. And you don't think he contributes defensively??
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #57
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
definitely second half, but first half he did well I thought, in fact I even commented how much stronger he was going into challenges and winning back the ball - we were much better than Norwich first half pretty much all over the pitch, just didn’t have the end result
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It was evenly matched first half but that’s more because neither side was that good. Then second half they upgraded to average while we looked clueless.

The times we went a little more direct or higher tempo we caused more problems for sure.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #58
Pusb1 said:
honestly this baffles me. Same as the caller after the match who was screaming for Taveres to start..

honestly what were you watching? what did he contribute? were you actually watching that they were bypassing our midfield at every single opportunity?

Eccles doesn’t score goals. I get slated moaning about his defensive work because i constantly get told he’s “not a defensive midfielder” but he also doesn’t assist.

so i ask back. what is he good at doing exactly? Besides the odd diagonal and backwards pass?
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You missed the 3 ball's directly through the lines the other night then 20-30 metre passes on the ground to feet enabling the number 10 or whoever to progress it?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #59
Pusb1 said:
honestly this baffles me. Same as the caller after the match who was screaming for Taveres to start..

honestly what were you watching? what did he contribute? were you actually watching that they were bypassing our midfield at every single opportunity?

Eccles doesn’t score goals. I get slated moaning about his defensive work because i constantly get told he’s “not a defensive midfielder” but he also doesn’t assist.

so i ask back. what is he good at doing exactly? Besides the odd diagonal and backwards pass?
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He was visibly trying to be more progressive in his passing which is a low bar but more than can be said for his colleagues.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #60
Old Warwickshire lad said:
Why just make up something like that. You have no idea what so ever what he was saying.
probably annoyed they were not re- enforcing the midfield,which was being overrun.
Norwich changed tactics in the second half, and took complete control. And our coaches didn’t seem to have a clue what to do.
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I didn't make it up did I, others on this thread also saw it
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #61
skyblu3sk said:
I saw him throw his arms up but thought there was a missed pass before hand so was part of the game.
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Was probably unfortunate timing then, but he did it the exact moment Allen for Torp was raised on the board
 

2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #62
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It was evenly matched first half but that’s more because neither side was that good. Then second half they upgraded to average while we looked clueless.

The times we went a little more direct or higher tempo we caused more problems for sure.
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no again I don’t agree, I thought we were good other than finding an end product / final pass in the first half, although yes admittedly Norwich were pretty shite, but it wasn’t so much they upped their game second half, they brought players on and changed shape / tactics which completely fucked us
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #63
Great_Expectations said:
Yea I saw it, it went for quite while and was pretty expressive so I thought most would have seen it.

Impossible to tell what it was about, but I thought it was as an interaction with Boetang. Eccles was 100% pissed off about something but I highly doubt it was not being subbed.

Debate Eccles qualities all you like, but one thing you cannot doubt is his commitment.
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That was most probably the reason then.

As I say probably unfortunate timing that It was the same time as the sub being made

Considering yourself and others on here saw it, think some of the shit I'm getting for it is a bit uncalled for but hey
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #64
Saddlebrains said:
Was probably unfortunate timing then, but he did it the exact moment Allen for Torp was raised on the board
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Could be any number of reasons behind why he reacted like that. I’m sure he shares the frustration a lot of us have about that game to be fair.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #65
Boicey said:
Absolute horseshit take that.
You should be ashamed spreading crap like that.
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Literally loads of other people saw it

And as I've said numerous times above, it seems unfortunate timing that I saw the sub being made and Eccles kicking off

Oh and Eccles isn't gonna shag you mate
 

Calista

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #66
Saddlebrains said:
I didn't make it up did I, others on this thread also saw it
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But you made up what Eccles was thinking
 
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Boicey

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #67
Saddlebrains said:
Literally loads of other people saw it

And as I've said numerous times above, it seems unfortunate timing that I saw the sub being made and Eccles kicking off

Oh and Eccles isn't gonna shag you mate
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It's made up shit.
He was the best of a bad bunch.
And that never happened arsehole.
Pathetic.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #68
Boicey said:
It's made up shit.
He was the best of a bad bunch.
And that never happened arsehole.
Pathetic.
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'That never happened'

Literally people on this thread confirming it did happen you fucking melt
 

Skybluecol

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #69
I personally felt he was annoyed that it was Torp being taken off and not another player - no way would Eccles throw a strop on the field because he wasn't being taken off
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #70
Calista said:
But you made up what Eccles was thinking
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See that's fair enough, I should have put 'it looked like'
 
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