Match Thread Derby County - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 16th Aug (3 Viewers)

clint van damme said:

Maybe old fashioned, but for me you go man for man for the get go. Too much ambiguity and finger pointing with zonal and hybrid systems are worse.
There's your man, stick with him, if he scores it's your fault

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There is much more complexity to attacking teams movement, secondary runs, blockers nowadays that set piece coaching/coaches like when teams go man for man, they plan for that.

But at Championship level and below, more often than not, attacking set pieces are just put into a “good area” and everyone stays alive in an attacking sense and play off the chaos.

Well organised teams like Burnley last season should be able to deal with that, as should we.

The issue of Derby’s 3rd yesterday wasn’t really about the initial clearance, we won that relatively comfortably… it’s Adams’ movement you need to watch. Just left alone, in space.
Very easy to negate that from our point of view, no matter what the initial set up process is.

SkyBlueBarmy84 said:

I was just watching the highlights back - and trying to figure out what was going on for the third - JDS is either zonal marking, or totally lost his man (or someone else did) - either way, he is just stood there watching the play

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JDS spends most of the time when teams are attacking through our left back position just watching the play

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:

I sort of agree.

If you see a team playing zonal as long as you've got a reasonably competent set piece taker just get everyone to run into one zone and overwhelm that defender. Or at least get the biggest players against the smaller ones.

Man mark also has issues, as I'd try and block off whoever was meant to be marking our most dangerous headerer, but I do think there's more certainty there.

Oh, and have most of your corners as inswingers. Have the momentum going towards the goal, not away.

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Agree with all that except the inswinger as a ch I always found inswingers easier to defend than outswingers

Some blowhard on the Derby forum having a right old rant about out our “gamesmanship, Skullduggery and Cheating” yesterday- despite of course no being able to see the thuggery from his own team it does point to something we have been asking to see for a while - especially against a team that seem to be very good at giving it but not taking it.

Incognitocov said:

Dasilva delivered the second highest number of accurate passes (39) behind Grimes across both teams. Though his pass accuracy was slightly better than Grimes (87% v 86%) and Cov’s average was 79%. Rudoni was the only player ahead of him at 90%. BTA only delivered 4 accurate passes (50%).

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Which just proves how the agenda queens on here are jumping on JDS every time he plays. Was fine today until the last 10 minutes of normal time when his concentration slipped possibly due to tiredness. Compare and contrast with Bidders (who I like) performance at Derby last season. JDS is currently ahead of Brau who is adjusting to a new team and a new country.
Rushworth now getting stick? Dovin took a good while to find his best form in front of a different defence. Thought the first goal would have caught out many top goalies; it was so unexpected. Rushworth was not at fault for the other goals and they were trying to barge him all match.
BTA is what he is. Pace, chasing down and helping the defence. One bullet shot that went just wide, a goal as first to react following up and a nice involvement in the fifth goal. His first touch is not always Prem level but that is true of many players in the Championship. Was top scorer in a defensive West Brom team. Still a work in progress to fit him in permanently.