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Derby and Sheff Wed sanctions (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter SkyBlueGuy
  • Start date Jul 10, 2021
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SkyBlueGuy

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #1
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere so thought I'd post this. Alan Nixon has been tweeting details of the sanctions both will face next season. Looks pretty tame, but apparently they only made a couple of late payments.

Derby County, Sheffield Wednesday dealt suspended points penalties – Alan Nixon
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #2
SkyBlueGuy said:
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere so thought I'd post this. Alan Nixon has been tweeting details of the sanctions both will face next season. Looks pretty tame, but apparently they only made a couple of late payments.

Derby County, Sheffield Wednesday dealt suspended points penalties – Alan Nixon
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This is nothing ti do with the issue of Derby and their accounts
 
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SkyBlueGuy

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #3
Not really been following it, do you mean there might be more to come? I know the EFL had fined Derby £100k
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #4
EFL bottling it again, should have been points deductions straight away as per their own guidelines, and Direby should be starting on points deduction after their financial indiscretions
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #5
SkyBlueGuy said:
Not really been following it, do you mean there might be more to come? I know the EFL had fined Derby £100k
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This is when they were late paying players and refers purely to that offence

They are ridiculously late with their accounts and the last 3 years need to be submitted with revised amortisation calculations
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #6
Grendel said:
This is when they were late paying players and refers purely to that offence

They are ridiculously late with their accounts and the last 3 years need to be submitted with revised amortisation calculations
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So points deduction awaits them?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #7
Terry_dactyl said:
So points deduction awaits them?
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they have to re submit 3 years accounts by mid August as it’s likely they will have exceeded maximum losses so that’s the expectation

They still haven’t submitted 2019 yet
 
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SkyBlueGuy

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #8
Grendel said:
they have to re submit 3 years accounts by mid August as it’s likely they will have exceeded maximum losses so that’s the expectation

They still haven’t submitted 2019 yet
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So potentially they could be hit with the 3 point deduction, £100k fine AND a further sanction in mid August?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #9
SkyBlueGuy said:
So potentially they could be hit with the 3 point deduction, £100k fine AND a further sanction in mid August?
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Yes
 

fatso

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #10
SkyBlueGuy said:
So potentially they could be hit with the 3 point deduction, £100k fine AND a further sanction in mid August?
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Colin Steins Smile

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #11
Grendel said:
they have to re submit 3 years accounts by mid August as it’s likely they will have exceeded maximum losses so that’s the expectation

They still haven’t submitted 2019 yet
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Unfortunately its being reported by Kieran McGuire on the price of football podcast that a recent set of Derby’s accounts shows additional revenue from the sale of pride park of £30M . This is down to a revaluation of the ground in comparison to earlier years. It is an accountancy valuation which is apparently allowable…..so i suspect they are in the clear.
 

mark82

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #12
Colin Steins Smile said:
Unfortunately its being reported by Kieran McGuire on the price of football podcast that a recent set of Derby’s accounts shows additional revenue from the sale of pride park of £30M . This is down to a revaluation of the ground in comparison to earlier years. It is an accountancy valuation which is apparently allowable…..so i suspect they are in the clear.
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Bending the rules again.
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #13
I agree it’s clever accounting, but apparently not illegal
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #14
Colin Steins Smile said:
I agree it’s clever accounting, but apparently not illegal
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Still does not explain the accounts being now delayed for 18 months
 

Frostie

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #15
Colin Steins Smile said:
I agree it’s clever accounting, but apparently not illegal
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Is due to now be illegal to sell stadium to yourself at a profit (from July 1st.)
Closing stable door after horse has bolted in many cases (such as Derby's) though.
 

mark82

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #16
Grendel said:
Still does not explain the accounts being now delayed for 18 months
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Was that due to the case the EFL brought last year?
 

mark82

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #17
Colin Steins Smile said:
I agree it’s clever accounting, but apparently not illegal
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It's having one loophole for cheating closed off and finding another.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #18
Frostie said:
Is due to now be illegal to sell stadium to yourself at a profit (from July 1st.)
Closing stable door after horse has bolted in many cases (such as Derby's) though.
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A bit like Lesta and their admin, after them it was punished by -12 points, so many feckers still getting away with cheating other teams
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #19
Grendel said:
Still does not explain the accounts being now delayed for 18 months
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True, but when the governance of football is so weak. Then unethical practices thrive
 
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