Depression on sky blue talk (1 Viewer)

Astute · Sep 3, 2013

craigus12 said:
let's be honest, if even one player was sold yesterday, the website would have crashed from the feral and dribbling anti-sisu brigade wanting to come and post

Are you for real? Are you really 12?

I'm sorry I don't bow down to SISU. They didn't take over a club in a good state, but even they admit that they have made mistakes. Anything else would have been laughed at. Even the posters that defend SISU will say they have done a poor job so far.

Tell us what good you think they have done? Do you trust them? Do you think they want to make us fans happy? What is it that you see in SISU that the vast majority of our fans don't? How can you ignore what they have done to us?

Yesterday was as good as it could have been. No offers were good enough to let our best players go. That is why they were not sold. Not because they suddenly want to do what is best for our club. If they wanted what was best for our club they would enter talks to bring our club home. This would also give a major boost to their income.

You can only beat something so much whilst it is down before you kill it. This is the stage we have about reached

SydneySkyBlue · Sep 3, 2013

craigus12 said:
let's be honest, if even one player was sold yesterday, the website would have crashed from the feral and dribbling anti-sisu brigade wanting to come and post

The anti-SISU brigade? Isn't that everyone? Even Grendel's just an attention seeker.

RoboCCFC90 · Sep 3, 2013

mrbluesky87 said:
Who did we sign? Let's balance this argument out so which ever way you look at it, yet another shit deadline day for CCFC.

Would love to know how you came to the conclusion that it was a shit deadline day..

RoboCCFC90 · Sep 3, 2013

st john said:
Sisu are in negotiations to sell the club, and the prospective new buyers have insisted no one is sold or bought in. - Only thing that makes sense if you discount Sisu wanting to build a winning team.

Yeah right...

Houdi · Sep 3, 2013

Paxman II said:
I think what Grendel is saying here is the amount of negative opinion that was so 'certain' we would lose these players - after all it's the devil himself isn't it when talking about SISU - and what they will most certainly do? Especially cashing in right?
Well good news people, it didn't happen and frankly we are all jumping with joy at that one I suspect.
So can we just at least appreciate SISU did not cash in on this occasion and look to be building something strong under Elvis? It may not sit well with your stance against SISU but for once admit it has been a relatively good day for the Sky Blues.

Well of course the fact that Wilson/Christie etc not leaving will be a source of relief for most Sky Blue fans, however the expectations of most fans is now so low, that surviving 1 transfer window without an exodus of players is seen as a major triumph.
However the fundamentals and long term prospects for the club still remain dire. You can bet that Mcsheffrey and the other bomb squad members didn't leave without some decent pay offs. We may have them off the books,but at what cost?
SISU whether fairly or not have lost the trust of about 90% of the fan base, that is unlikely to change. The most positive bit of news yesterday was the fact that the club is talking about returning to the Higgs Centre, if a deal can be done, then there remains a small hope that a deal could be done for the club to return home.
No decent player will wish to remain playing for us for too long under the present scenario, unless things change drastically off the field yesterday will be seen as a pyrrhic victory.

RoboCCFC90 · Sep 3, 2013

valiant15 said:
Genuine question, did we bring anyone in?

Genuine question, Do we really need too?

Astute · Sep 3, 2013

RoboCCFC90 said:
Genuine question, Do we really need too?

Genuine question. Is our defence strong enough and do we have cover for any injuries?

valiant15 · Sep 3, 2013

RoboCCFC90 said:
Genuine question, Do we really need too?

You've turned into a proper sisu puppet haven't you.

ohitsaidwalker king power · Sep 3, 2013

Paxman II said:
I think what Grendel is saying here is the amount of negative opinion that was so 'certain' we would lose these players - after all it's the devil himself isn't it when talking about SISU - and what they will most certainly do? Especially cashing in right?
Well good news people, it didn't happen and frankly we are all jumping with joy at that one I suspect.
So can we just at least appreciate SISU did not cash in on this occasion and look to be building something strong under Elvis? It may not sit well with your stance against SISU but for once admit it has been a relatively good day for the Sky Blues.

Praise Tim and Joy for they are great you mean-

'fraid I'm an Atheist as far was worshiping at SISU's alter.. what about you... or are you still not sure which faith to follow?

covmark · Sep 3, 2013

valiant15 said:
You've turned into a proper sisu puppet haven't you.

I think he prefers rent boy or cheerleader

mrbluesky87 · Sep 3, 2013

RoboCCFC90 said:
Would love to know how you came to the conclusion that it was a shit deadline day..

Who did we sign????????? We have owners who are obviously cash rich and do not need fans to keep the club going therefore I presume they have the funds to draft players in, even if they were on a free but no nothing and what amazes me we as fans are at a point where we are delighted nobody left and not bothered about new players coming in.

I will ask you a question, do you really believe that with the players we have that we will carry on as we are all year????? I have even seen the suggestions of promotion, please.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Sep 3, 2013

It strange as everyone was talking like fact that Christie and Wilson were going to leave

Nobody wanted them to leave but it is funny watch everyone backtrack and create excuses like they are also fact

The Reverend Skyblue · Sep 3, 2013

I just wish someone would bring up the posts where the posters said categorically that they wanted Wilson and Clarke etc to leave ,then this stupid juvenile thread can end

Astute · Sep 3, 2013

CCFC said:
It strange as everyone was talking like fact that Christie and Wilson were going to leave

Nobody wanted them to leave but it is funny watch everyone backtrack and create excuses like they are also fact

So name one offer that came in that wasn't well under the value of the player? They must have learned their lesson from the past where they have sold for well under value.

This isn't backtracking. This is just stating facts. And if a good enough bid would have come in then it would have been a different story. It would also been accepted as long as any players sold would have been replaced. The problem that most of us have with SISU and selling players is not replacing them.

Grendel · Sep 3, 2013

Astute said:
So name one offer that came in that wasn't well under the value of the player? They must have learned their lesson from the past where they have sold for well under value.

This isn't backtracking. This is just stating facts. And if a good enough bid would have come in then it would have been a different story. It would also been accepted as long as any players sold would have been replaced. The problem that most of us have with SISU and selling players is not replacing them.

How do you know what was offered?

Grendel · Sep 3, 2013

The Reverend Skyblue said:
I just wish someone would bring up the posts where the posters said categorically that they wanted Wilson and Clarke etc to leave ,then this stupid juvenile thread can end

So juvenile you are participating in it?

skybluebeduff · Sep 3, 2013

Grendel said:
How do you know what was offered?

Common sense if you read about the bid turned down for Leon. Usually means the bid was under the market value of what Sheffield offered.

Same for Cyrus.

italiahorse · Sep 3, 2013

Grendel said:
So juvenile you are participating in it?

People have supposedly said that they wanted these players to go but yet no one can show where this was said !!
Hence the thread is based on something that has not happened and is pointless.
The problem is here that people like you feed on this and then start a pointless, maybe childish, argument with people that dispute it.

Mary_Mungo_Midge · Sep 3, 2013

Grendel said:
Face it, 90% on here were desperate for Wilson, Christie, Clark and baker to go.

Now they haven't I can't wait to hear the reasoning - sisu were only offered a bag of crisps for all four and it wasn't even a grab bag.

The most amusing aspect of this waste of a thread is Grenduffy thinking that 90% of fans would want to see the already-thin squad weakened more to find an 'excuse' to criticise SISU.

If you hadn't noticed, the 35 miles down the road to where Coventry now plays football is littered with enough excuses already....

Astute · Sep 3, 2013

Grendel said:
How do you know what was offered?

Quotes of between 300k and 500k as well as a loan deal for Clarke were about. And not started on here by supposed pro/anti SISU.

Have I just fed the troll?

jimmyhillsfanclub · Sep 3, 2013

Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
The most amusing aspect of this waste of a thread is Grenduffy thinking that 90% of fans would want to see the already-thin squad weakened more to find an 'excuse' to criticise SISU.

If you hadn't noticed, the 35 miles down the road to where Coventry now plays football is littered with enough excuses already....

correction MMM....there is nothing amusing about this thread.

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SkyBlue_Bear83 · Sep 3, 2013

Astute said:
So name one offer that came in that wasn't well under the value of the player? They must have learned their lesson from the past where they have sold for well under value.

This isn't backtracking. This is just stating facts. And if a good enough bid would have come in then it would have been a different story. It would also been accepted as long as any players sold would have been replaced. The problem that most of us have with SISU and selling players is not replacing them.

We don't know what was offered

RoboCCFC90 · Sep 3, 2013

Astute said:
Genuine question. Is our defence strong enough and do we have cover for any injuries?

Fair point..

skybluelee · Sep 3, 2013

No, the most amusing thing about this thread is how each time Grendel starts an attention seeking post it receives 100+ responses. Why don't you lot just ignore him?

Astute · Sep 3, 2013

CCFC said:
We don't know what was offered

Elvis even stated that players would be sold if valuation met. Valuation not met so clubs trying to get our players on the cheap. No surprise as we have sold cheaply in the past.

RoboCCFC90 · Sep 3, 2013

mrbluesky87 said:
Who did we sign????????? We have owners who are obviously cash rich and do not need fans to keep the club going therefore I presume they have the funds to draft players in, even if they were on a free but no nothing and what amazes me we as fans are at a point where we are delighted nobody left and not bothered about new players coming in.

I will ask you a question, do you really believe that with the players we have that we will carry on as we are all year????? I have even seen the suggestions of promotion, please.

We signed nobody however you have to ask yourself at this current moment is there much in the market that would improve our first 11, the answer is no. I am happy about the fact that none of our more talented players were poached for the simple fact that they are the core members of our squad..

Yes I believe we have a strong capable enough to finish in the top half.

italiahorse · Sep 3, 2013

skybluelee said:
No, the most amusing thing about this thread is how each time Grendel starts an attention seeking post it receives 100+ responses. Why don't you lot just ignore him?

Nick can't you just ban him on the grounds of making no worthwhile contribution to the board other than increasing bandwidth.

RoboCCFC90 · Sep 3, 2013

valiant15 said:
You've turned into a proper sisu puppet haven't you.

Because I question whether making any old signing would improve our squad?

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Sep 3, 2013

Astute said:
Elvis even stated that players would be sold if valuation met. Valuation not met so clubs trying to get our players on the cheap. No surprise as we have sold cheaply in the past.

He said it would take a ridiculous offer and one the club couldnt refuse

So we can conclude whatever was offered was less than a ridiculous amount

Astute · Sep 3, 2013

RoboCCFC90 said:
We signed nobody however you have to ask yourself at this current moment is there much in the market that would improve our first 11, the answer is no. I am happy about the fact that none of our more talented players were poached for the simple fact that they are the core members of our squad..

Yes I believe we have a strong capable enough to finish in the top half.

There's many players not under contract. From what I have seen of us we need to strengthen in defence.

On the financial side there is no rush to sign players. The longer these players are without a club the less of a wage they will accept. After all a lower wage is better than no wage. Then we can afford better/more players for our buck. The only problem is getting a balance of not getting too far behind the top of the table, not missing out on these players going to other clubs as well as getting them to sign cheaper terms.

skybluetony176 · Sep 3, 2013

possibly the most pointless thread ever started

Astute · Sep 3, 2013

CCFC said:
He said it would take a ridiculous offer and one the club couldnt refuse

So we can conclude whatever was offered was less than a ridiculous amount

Correct. But we could speculate on what this ridiculous amount was. Did they see 1m as so? I would have seen this as a minimum amount acceptable. Do you really think we got any bids anywhere near 1m for any of our players?

RoboCCFC90 · Sep 3, 2013

Astute said:
There's many players not under contract. From what I have seen of us we need to strengthen in defence.

On the financial side there is no rush to sign players. The longer these players are without a club the less of a wage they will accept. After all a lower wage is better than no wage. Then we can afford better/more players for our buck. The only problem is getting a balance of not getting too far behind the top of the table, not missing out on these players going to other clubs as well as getting them to sign cheaper terms.

There are many players not under contract, however I haven't seen a CB who is not under contract that is worth taking the punt on at this moment in time.

There is no point bringing in a player who isn't as good as what we already have. The goal on Saturday would not have been conceded if Jordan Clarke had either cleared up field or put the ball out, his decision making is what cost us, from what I have seen of him at Cb this season he has been that bad..

lewys33 · Sep 3, 2013

They didnt sell any of our players? Wow I am shocked. SISU must have been telling the truth all along. Maybe they DO care. Maybe they can turn it all around. Maybe its "90%" of the fans that are in fact the ones who have it all wrong.

SAID NO ONE ........ EVER

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Sep 3, 2013

Astute said:
Correct. But we could speculate on what this ridiculous amount was. Did they see 1m as so? I would have seen this as a minimum amount acceptable. Do you really think we got any bids anywhere near 1m for any of our players?

No idea, however we couldn't have much complaints if we got over 1 mill for players who could leave for 200-300k in the summer

My initial point was aimed at those who kept saying SISU will sell at any offer, talking like it was fact they had already left and kept shouting bullshit when the club said they would only sell for a ridiculous amount

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