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  • Start date Dec 27, 2023
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 27, 2023
  • #1
4th lowest goals conceded and joint 2nd highest number of clean sheets (9), 5 of which have come since previous lynchpin McFadz was left out of the starting line up. Our defensive coaching is excellent.

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DrPoolittle

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  • Dec 27, 2023
  • #2
How much of this is down to switching to 4 at the back?
 
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JulianDarbyFTW

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #3
Am I right in thinking Dennis Lawrence does the defensive coaching? Since we moved up to the Championship, that's one area of the team that just clicks nicely into place after a few months of the season. And hopefully, if we have a fairly settled back line for the next few years, we'll become virtually impenetrable.
 

slowpoke

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #4
JulianDarbyFTW said:
Am I right in thinking Dennis Lawrence does the defensive coaching? Since we moved up to the Championship, that's one area of the team that just clicks nicely into place after a few months of the season. And hopefully, if we have a fairly settled back line for the next few years, we'll become virtually impenetrable.
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And Kyle McFadzean ?
 
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hamil99

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #5
Once Kitching got settled in the the team, he's looked like a young Mcfadz. In my eyes he's been the most important signing this season. Build from the back and you'll have success!

Hats off to Dennis Lawrence, our defensive shape has never been better since he's been in.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #6
I thought this was about a new song that that guy makes up, but, it makes you feel proud that we have this accolade the other being 6th in the goals plus department
 

Hutch11

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #7
The defensive partnership of Kitching and Thomas is superb
Thomas is like your all action , tough tackling , no nonsense type
Where as Kitching is like a Rolls Royce , very rarely goes to ground but just steps in and takes the ball
They compliment each other perfectly and clearly have a chemistry between them
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #8
At times since we've gone to a back 4 it's reminded me of Aresenal under George Graham.
Yes, shape and lines and distances are important, but sometimes it's just about players who never give up and who'll put anything in the way to prevent the opposition scoring.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #9
slowpoke said:
And Kyle McFadzean ?
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Hopefully. Would love their to be a role at the clubfor him when he finished playing, been a great servant.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #10
Fadz has been amazing, but he's a bit part player now .. one of my favourite players of the last 6 years
 
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slowpoke

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #11
clint van damme said:
Hopefully. Would love their to be a role at the clubfor him when he finished playing, been a great servant.
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I do know a senior player does get involved at times on the training field with youngsters so who knows.
 

slowpoke

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #12
Hutch11 said:
The defensive partnership of Kitching and Thomas is superb
Thomas is like your all action , tough tackling , no nonsense type
Where as Kitching is like a Rolls Royce , very rarely goes to ground but just steps in and takes the ball
They compliment each other perfectly and clearly have a chemistry between them
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Is that the same Bobby Thomas that was ridiculed and rubbished when we first signed him by a lot of our resident “experts”on here and the same Liam Kitching that we “spunked” over 4.5 million quid on.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #13
Also we’ve been very lucky

Of 7 big chances in the last 2 games only 1 has been on target

And yes I’m taking the piss
 

matesx

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #14
.... more than a few slalgged them on here
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #15
CCFCSakamoto said:
The Bidwell effect
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What call him a Rolls Royce and it will be so?
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #16
Thomas still scared me at least twice a game got to be honest.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #17
Kitching has been excellent. I’d argue Bidwell has had as big an impact and also Van Ewijk looks far more comfortable in a flat back 4. The irony is the full backs have also got forward far more effectively in a flat back 4.
 

TomRad85

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #18
If he was trying to offload Bidwell I'd imagine he's had a rethink. That back 4 is solid and, assuming we don't go up, is something we don't even need to look at going into next season.

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stupot07

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #19
fernandopartridge said:
4th lowest goals conceded and joint 2nd highest number of clean sheets (9), 5 of which have come since previous lynchpin McFadz was left out of the starting line up. Our defensive coaching is excellent.

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It's actually 6 not 5 cleansheets since Fads dropped out and we went to a back 4.
Stoke, Millwall, Plymouth, Birmingham, Sunderland, Sheff Wed.

Since we have gone to a back 4:

Played 9
Conceded 4 goals
Kept 6 clean sheets (66%)

P9 W5 D3 L1 F14 A4 GD +10, PTS 18 PPG 2 WIN % 56%

The previously 15 league games with wingbacks and Fadz

P15 W4 D6 L6 F19 A21 GD -2, PTS 18 PPG 1.2 WIN % 27%

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #20
You have a goalkeeper and central defensive pairing who already know each other very well, either side of them one solid Championship full back and one good prospect. What also helps is having better balance further up the pitch so we aren’t asking 3 players to do all of the attacking work.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #21
shmmeee said:
Thomas still scared me at least twice a game got to be honest.
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Yeah me too, well both of them. Kitching in the Sunderland game had a number of iffy mistakes.

They are both settling and getting better. At the moment they are in good form and playing well, I'm sure there will be bumps along the way and dips in form but I know how level headed this forum is.

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slowpoke

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #22
Sky Blue Pete said:
Also we’ve been very lucky

Of 7 big chances in the last 2 games only 1 has been on target

And yes I’m taking the piss
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Agree a bit, how that scramble before our second goal didn’t go in
God knows but you need that bit of luck at times.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #23
CCFCSakamoto said:
The Bidwell effect
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PVA

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #24
CCFCSakamoto said:
@PVA do you have the stats to confirm this?
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Funny how stats are great when they suit.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #25
CCFCSakamoto said:
Who do you think should be our first choice left back?
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Right now Bidwell, I haven't said otherwise.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #26
stupot07 said:
It's actually 6 not 5 cleansheets since Fads dropped out and we went to a back 4.
Stoke, Millwall, Plymouth, Birmingham, Sunderland, Sheff Wed.

Since we have gone to a back 4:

Played 9
Conceded 4 goals
Kept 6 clean sheets (66%)

P9 W5 D3 L1 F14 A4 GD +10, PTS 18 PPG 2 WIN % 56%

The previously 15 league games with wingbacks and Fadz

P15 W4 D6 L6 F19 A21 GD -2, PTS 18 PPG 1.2 WIN % 27%

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Have you got any stats to back this up?
 
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stupot07

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #27
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Have you got any stats to back this up?
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No it's just a hunch.

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shmmeee

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #28
stupot07 said:
No it's just a hunch.

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Harsh on the others to give all the credit to Bidwell
 
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slowpoke

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #29
Bidwell was always a good player from the time he signed but was another player not received well on here by our “experts”.
 
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skybluegod

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #30
JulianDarbyFTW said:
Am I right in thinking Dennis Lawrence does the defensive coaching? Since we moved up to the Championship, that's one area of the team that just clicks nicely into place after a few months of the season. And hopefully, if we have a fairly settled back line for the next few years, we'll become virtually impenetrable.
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TBF even without Lawrence, Robins has always been able to make his sides hard to beat. Sometimes takes a bit of time, but he's always been a manager that aims to be solid first.
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #31
slowpoke said:
Bidwell was always a good player from the time he signed but was another player not received well on here by our “experts”.
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Good as in “solid”. Attacking output has gone miles up this season. The whole premise of 3ATB was that the wing backs were meant to offer an attacking outlet. They very rarely did, and it turns out it wasn’t due to inability to do so.
 
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mmttww

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #32
SBAndy said:
Good as in “solid”. Attacking output has gone miles up this season. The whole premise of 3ATB was that the wing backs were meant to offer an attacking outlet. They very rarely did, and it turns out it wasn’t due to inability to do so.
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Bang on. He's looked better this season.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #33
SBAndy said:
Good as in “solid”. Attacking output has gone miles up this season. The whole premise of 3ATB was that the wing backs were meant to offer an attacking outlet. They very rarely did, and it turns out it wasn’t due to inability to do so.
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Mason debate again, think he's gone out the game?
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #34
shmmeee said:
Harsh on the others to give all the credit to Bidwell
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Don't think I did, did I? I mentioned Fadz and the back 4, I don't think I mentioned Bidwell, in my stats post.

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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 28, 2023
  • #35
wingy said:
Mason debate again, think he's gone out the game?
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Reverse Stuart Pearce, he's at Wealdstone

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