Defending set pieces (1 Viewer)

Brighton Sky Blue said:

A goal conceded today where seconds before the goal is scored, nearly all of our players are in the 6 yard box.

If this is a deliberate thing, it needs binning off. We generally don’t seem to know what we’re doing at free kicks and corners, but to just allow the other team an unmarked player on the edge of the box just makes especially little sense. Aside from that we are still struggling to win the ball in with everyone brought back and are panicking on the ball if we do leading to a hoof or recycling it back into the danger zone.

Keep it simple-leave a few players up to give those defending a simpler task.

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SBAndy said:

Wonder what would happen if you left 5 up front.

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SBAndy said:

Wonder what would happen if you left 5 up front.

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coop said:

I'm sure a few years ago we had 3 players up top could be wrong.

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Brighton Sky Blue said:

I think 3 is enough to make the opposition do that, one on each flank and one down the middle. In that scenario we still have 8 back defending the corner against 6 or 7 which ought to be enough.

We basically just want the box to be more easily defended while also giving plenty of counter attacking options.

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SBAndy said:

Right, this may sound bonkers, but 3 on halfway spread right across the pitch, 2 on the edge of the centre circle, 2 a reasonable distance outside the box almost covering the possibility of a short corner. That’s 7 players outside the box. By the law of ‘general consensus’ that means the opposition will have 8 of theirs outside the box, then keeper and corner taker. Would it actually play out that they’d have one person in the box for the corner? If so, from a fixed position, you’d have to back one defender plus a keeper that could catch.

Edit: and if they committed more forward and you win the ball you’ve immediately got numerical superiority and plenty of players in very good spaces to win the second ball and link with each other.

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robbiethemole said:

we used to leave 2 up so why have we changed back to 10 in the box, never have an outlet now.

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Sky Blue Pete said:

Have we let goals in from set pieces or is it perception?
i always panic when other team attack or have a set piece
We let one in v Oxford from not clearing a free kick and obviously the Bristol city one but binks was fouled after he headed it away and the striker was offside
I think allied with not looking too threatening it’s an area we can improve
I have to say I thought we defended pretty well against Bristol especially after the Oxford game

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SBAndy said:

Just looked briefly so may be wrong, but in our last 8 games of last season we conceded 3 from corners and 2 from other set pieces. That I’d imagine is significantly out of kilter with general averages.

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Sky Blue Pete said:

Have we let goals in from set pieces or is it perception?
i always panic when other team attack or have a set piece
We let one in v Oxford from not clearing a free kick and obviously the Bristol city one but binks was fouled after he headed it away and the striker was offside
I think allied with not looking too threatening it’s an area we can improve
I have to say I thought we defended pretty well against Bristol especially after the Oxford game

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JimmyHillsbeard said:

Going against the grain here but I’ve been mystified by the reaction to Latibeaudiere and Binks on Saturday.
Latibeaudiere coped q well with an extremely physical centre forward. He made some very good clearances but virtually all of his good work was either physical wrestling with his man 30 yards out or a last ditch corrective action. Overall I thought he was the pick of our outfield players across the whole 90 but it was all a bit desperation mode.

Binks on the other hand was consistently caught on the wrong side of his attacker. His positional play is really starting to worry me. All teams have to do against us is to pump the ball behind him into the space between him and the left back and it’s a recipe for trouble. He was really lucky not to get booked for a terrible tackle on Bird - the ref played advantage allowing Sinclaire to shoot straight at Dovin and his reckless tackle on Wells in the second half was lucky to be a yellow - Wells managed to jump out of the way before he made contact. Yet I’ve seen several folk say how immense he was and Ccfcanalyst on twitter even gave him motm as he “got an assist for the goal” while Dovin “did the things we should expect from him”

Somebody tell me what I’m missing with the Binks love in. In the two away games I’ve witnessed this season I thought he was a liability.

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Sky Blue Pete said:

I thought 4 of the back 5 were good Lati amd dovin especially just Bidwell really not on his game at all

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JimmyHillsbeard said:

Dovin was excellent, and as I say Latibeaudiere coped well. Bidwell did make one incredible emergency block - which the replay shows he did not handle despite the Bristol player’s protest. MVE was hampered by Sakamota not having space in front of him but did lots of things well in defence.


I think it’s probably very difficult for a defence behind an overrun midfield so maybe I’m being harsh but I’m puzzled as to why so many think Binks has had a good start to the season.

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wingy said:

Coaching/coaches!

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