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Dean Austin position untenable (1 Viewer)

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clint van damme

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #386
Chicken Mcgraw said:
Have to agree. Can’t help but think one crucial signing this window could bring the best out of the players around them. I don’t think this Chelsea kid is that player.
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Think an experienced player is needed to have that sort of influence. Hopefully we get one.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #387
Nick said:
2 posts later? Was it, really? It was from a while back so not "2 posts later".

Was it made up on the same level as King hiring Austin even though he didn't own the club?
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He did own the club! He purchased an 85% stake a month earlier. The takeover didn’t get EFL approval until mid Jan but the deal was agreed and signed.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #388
SBT said:
They'd agreed the sale - you don't just have the new boss running around hiring and firing people before he's officially taken over.
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And you don’t make appointments the new owner doesn’t agree with either normally.

Again I’d go back to the fact that Austin survived the post King cull more than any other member of staff. Even if you blame Robins for hiring him somehow, you have to accept King has made a conscious decision to keep him on. Or is this Lampard couldn’t drop Collins all over again?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #389
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I wouldn't have thought so. Championship clubs are permitted to lose no more than £39m across the reporting period which is over 3 years iirc.

We're a loss making club but we'll be nowhere near making any kind of regulatory breach.
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We'll have reported the Gyokeres and Hamer sales in y/e 31/5/24 accounts but not all of the subsequent purchases will be in those accounts, so there is potential we might be close to break even or even (unlikely) in profit for that year. We shall see in the next few weeks.
 

Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #390
clint van damme said:
Think an experienced player is needed to have that sort of influence. Hopefully we get one.
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Players like Harry Darling, Lewis O’Brien etc are incredibly experienced for their age and could be ideal to come in and raise the quality levels. Of course they may not be available but that’s the type of signing I would be happy with us paying slightly over the odds for.

Even Holding I could sort of understand it but I cannot see what the young Chelsea lad will provide in the immediate future.
 
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Lamps

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #391
Nick said:
2 posts later? Was it, really? It was from a while back so not "2 posts later".

Was it made up on the same level as King hiring Austin even though he didn't own the club?
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The King takeover was approved a couple of weeks after Austin joined. The approval took a bit of time but was almost a guarantee after the years of SISU.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #392
shmmeee said:
He did own the club! He purchased an 85% stake a month earlier. The takeover didn’t get EFL approval until mid Jan but the deal was agreed and signed.
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You have no idea when conversations between the club and Austin first started though. It's complete conjecture and speculation.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #393
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
You have no idea when conversations between the club and Austin first started though. It's complete conjecture and speculation.
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Yeah I’m sure a club selling players for grass was knee deep in a search for a new head of recruitment! Badlan hadn’t even left when King agreed to buy the club.
 

Lamps

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #394
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
You have no idea when conversations between the club and Austin first started though. It's complete conjecture and speculation.
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Yet you state there's no chance King had anything to do with choosing Austin.

Why would SISU hire Austin when the sale of our club was about finalised?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #395
Lamps said:
Yet you state there's no chance King had anything to do with choosing Austin.

Why would SISU hire Austin when the sale of our club was about finalised?
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Because we still needed recruitment ffs.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #396
shmmeee said:
Yeah I’m sure a club selling players for grass was knee deep in a search for a new head of recruitment!
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Oh right of course I forgot we didn't appoint one when we were considerably worse off in L1.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #397
So just to be clear, we think Austin is bad so it means King hired him before he had taken over (he told SISU to hire him) in negotiations and talks and it's nothing to do with the fact that Robins knew him. Obviously, if he had scouted some world-class players it would be because he was Robins bessie.

Then people wonder why I point out some of the Jackanory shit that gets posted? People need to take a step back to see what they are posting before pressing Save.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #398
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Oh right of course I forgot we didn't appoint one when we were considerably worse off in L1.
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The timeline just so you’re clear is:

16th Nov: King agrees to buy 85% stake in club
30th Nov: Badlan leaves for Blackpool
13th Dec: Austin appointed
10th Jan: EFL approves takeover
27th Jan: King buys final 15%

Feel free to craft your nonsense around that
 
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robbiethemole

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #399
Does it matter who hired him, the blokes a joke ffs!
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #400
shmmeee said:
The timeline just so you’re clear is:

16th Nov: King agrees to buy 85% stake in club
30th Nov: Badlan leaves for Blackpool
13th Dec: Austin appointed
10th Jan: EFL approves takeover
27th Jan: King buys final 15%

Feel free to craft your nonsense around that
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And it was all fuck all to do with Robins still.
 

Lamps

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #401
Nick said:
Because we still needed recruitment ffs.
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Why would SISU recruit when the club was sold? How long do you think it took to agree on a price for our club and then get approval from the FL? A lot longer than the 2 week difference between Austin taking over and the deal being finalised.

More like King wanted someone in place for the January transfer window that started a week before the deal was finalised.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #402
Nick said:
And it was all fuck all to do with Robins still.
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Again, not what I’ve said.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #403
shmmeee said:
The timeline just so you’re clear is:

16th Nov: King agrees to buy 85% stake in club
30th Nov: Badlan leaves for Blackpool
13th Dec: Austin appointed
10th Jan: EFL approves takeover
27th Jan: King buys final 15%

Feel free to craft your nonsense around that
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Shock horror football club replaces head of recruitment after sudden departure!!!

You've cracked it. Deep state was 100% involved.
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #404
Nick said:
So just to be clear, we think Austin is bad so it means King hired him before he had taken over (he told SISU to hire him) in negotiations and talks and it's nothing to do with the fact that Robins knew him. Obviously, if he had scouted some world-class players it would be because he was Robins bessie.

Then people wonder why I point out some of the Jackanory shit that gets posted? People need to take a step back to see what they are posting before pressing Save.
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Jackanory? That's saying SISU wanted an extra wage to pay when our club was already sold
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #405
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Shock horror football club replaces head of recruitment after sudden departure!!!

You've cracked it. Deep state was 100% involved.
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Who did he replace?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #406
Lamps said:
Why would SISU recruit when the club was sold? How long do you think it took to agree on a price for our club and then get approval from the FL? A lot longer than the 2 week difference between Austin taking over and the deal being finalised.

More like King wanted someone in place for the January transfer window that started a week before the deal was finalised.
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Because it's a football club, they have scouts and recruitment teams and we did even in League 2. If one goes then another one replaces them.

Boddy was still running the day to day side of things like that.

This is like when Robins said himself he planned the new coaching structure but people still try and deny it because it didn't work.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #407
Lamps said:
Jackanory? That's saying SISU wanted an extra wage to pay when our club was already sold
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Because it was business as usual with Dave Boddy running things like that? It really isn't hard.
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #408
Nick said:
This is like when Robins said himself he planned the new coaching structure but people still try and deny it because it didn't work.
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Can you show us where he said that?
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #409
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Shock horror football club replaces head of recruitment after sudden departure!!!

You've cracked it. Deep state was 100% involved.
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FFS you are ridiculous. Just accept you were wrong. Badlan left after King agreed. You said they were probably already looking at Austin before he agreed. Which would be weird when he had a HoR.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #410
Lamps said:
Who did he replace?
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Chris Badlan. He left for Blackpool to become their Sporting Director and our head scout Stuart Benthom joined him.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #411
Lamps said:
Can you show us where he said that?
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Literally where he was quoted saying when he was interviewing he would see how they would fit into the coaching structure.

Fucking hell
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #412
shmmeee said:
FFS you are ridiculous. Just accept you were wrong. Badlan left after King agreed. You said they were probably already looking at Austin before he agreed. Which would be weird when he had a HoR.
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Genuinely I'd love you to tell me where I was wrong. This is hilarious.
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #413
Nick said:
Because it was business as usual with Dave Boddy running things like that? It really isn't hard.
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OK you're right. SISU decided to take on Austin after agreeing to sell.our club.
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #414
Nick said:
Literally where he was quoted saying when he was interviewing he would see how they would fit into the coaching structure.

Fucking hell
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Was that him saying it was his choice like you are making it out to be?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #415
Lamps said:
OK you're right. SISU decided to take on Austin after agreeing to sell.our club.
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What's your point?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #416
Lamps said:
Was that him saying it was his choice like you are making it out to be?
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Yes it was.

Is it fucking nutjob day today or something?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #417
Lamps said:
OK you're right. SISU decided to take on Austin after agreeing to sell.our club.
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SISU wouldn't have been involved in his appointment. Joy didn't even recruit Dave Boddy directly iirc. That was left to Fisher.
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #418
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Chris Badlan. He left for Blackpool to become their Sporting Director and our head scout Stuart Benthom joined him.
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The role of Austin is different.
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #419
Nick said:
What's your point?
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You making up things.

How is it impossible that King wanted a head of recruitment when the job was done by Robins until the takeover?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #420
Lamps said:
The role of Austin is different.
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He was appointed to the role of Head of Recruitment when he initially joined, same position as Badlan when he left. Please enlighten me on how it was different.

Did Austin get a lanyard in a different shade of blue?
 
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