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  • Start date Jul 7, 2012
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #71
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Norwood cost a few hundred grand?
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400k. Not sure if this is up front or on the drip but more than we can afford. Shame as he's a quality player
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #72
For about the 100th time, this club has no future while it continues to employ the likes of Bell, Baker & Deegan.
 

Baginton

New Member
  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #73
Huge season for Bell, hopefully a injury free season and the drop in divisions will make it a better season for him.

I'm hopeful.
 

junglej13

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #74
I have never left the ground thinking bell has been anything other than appaling. Quite how thorn thought he could play at the tip of the diamond is beyond me. I cant believe some people think he will suddenly be decent next season. He's alway gets grouped with baker but I think baker could do ok next season.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #75
Well, you want to read some of the stuff said about him. Pretty hateful. I'm noteven going to bother answering the crap from cheever s bout jews, nazis, my age,me being a parent, etc.

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Hate implies there's some kind of deep rooted personal vendetta against the man. That simply isn't the case.
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Macca

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #76
torchomatic said:
Well, you want to read some of the stuff said about him. Pretty hateful. I'm noteven going to bother answering the crap from cheever s bout jews, nazis, my age,me being a parent, etc.

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Wtf? Have I missed something
 
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CCFC123

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #77
marty said:
for about the 100th time, this club has no future while it continues to employ the likes of bell, baker & deegan.
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some fuckin sense at last!
 
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Real

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #78
procdoc said:
are you on the wind up mate? David Bell and George Best in the same sentence? Yes he may have a decent touch and can produce the odd decent cross or pass but by and large he has been a complete passenger with zero deisre in his 3 seasons here
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The point I'm making is a good majority of Cov fans seem to mix up talent with work rate. If we had signed a young Le Tissier he would have been hounded out before he was 21, while some supporters would prefer Sean Flynn. I've always like footballers with ability, players who are capable of doing something, definitely preferable to work horses.


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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #79
CCFCSteve said:
400k. Not sure if this is up front or on the drip but more than we can afford. Shame as he's a quality player
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Wasn't Norwood at the end of his contract at Utd, so on a free?
 
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cheever

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #80
torchomatic said:
Well, you want to read some of the stuff said about him. Pretty hateful. I'm noteven going to bother answering the crap from cheever s bout jews, nazis, my age,me being a parent, etc.

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The mature response I expected......:facepalm:

For once, just once, it would have been good to see you admit that there is a reason to admit that you got it wrong, Torchy.

You failed to do this over SISU, Coleman, AT after last season, David Bell, and now your appalling use of language.

You really have let yourself down on this one...polarising and labelling the fans in such a manner is an utter disgrace.

Shame on you.
 
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cheever

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #81
torchomatic said:
Well, you want to read some of the stuff said about him. Pretty hateful.
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Please elaborate/quote.....rather than making sweeping statements.

Another trait of those who lack the skills to debate, but seek to divide the masses....
 
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cheever

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #82
torchomatic said:
I'm noteven going to bother answering the crap from cheever s bout jews, nazis, my age,me being a parent, etc.

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Why not?

It was a perfectly good point I made about the use of a word you made.

Why no comment....you usually have some retort.....no evidence, perhaps???
 

torchomatic

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #83
You didn't cheer his goals then or his game changing performance setting up two goals after coming on a sub this season?

junglej13 said:
I have never left the ground thinking bell has been anything other than appaling. Quite how thorn thought he could play at the tip of the diamond is beyond me. I cant believe some people think he will suddenly be decent next season. He's alway gets grouped with baker but I think baker could do ok next season.
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hill83

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #84
Real said:
The point I'm making is a good majority of Cov fans seem to mix up talent with work rate. If we had signed a young Le Tissier he would have been hounded out before he was 21, while some supporters would prefer Sean Flynn. I've always like footballers with ability, players who are capable of doing something, definitely preferable to work horses.


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I understand your point, and always make the same argument, as what you are saying annoys me too.

But on this occasion it doesn't apply. Maybe a new thread making the point would be the best option.
 

torchomatic

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #85
Talking about jews persecution by Nazis was a good point, was it?

As i said look at some of the things said a bout him by some posters on here and twitter. Then come back on here and be man enough to admit some are indeed hateful.

cheever said:
Why not?

It was a perfectly good point I made about the use of a word you made.

Why no comment....you usually have some retort.....no evidence, perhaps???
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cheever

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #86
torchomatic said:
Talking about jews persecution by Nazis was a good point, was it?

As i said look at some of the things said a bout him by some posters on here and twitter. Then come back on here and be man enough to admit some are indeed hateful.
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Torchy, you seem like a realtively intelligent chap, so I'm struggling to understand your arrogance here.

Are you suggesting that the Jews would not feel 'hate' towards the Nazis in the 30s/40s????

Jeez, mate, if that is the case, then your attitude really is appalling.

Or if you didn't understand the reason for using this example, I'll explain.....

Using words such as 'hate' in the context of atrocities such as the Holocaust is acceptable. To use such words to ridicule your FELLOW supporters, or to win a petty argument, is totally unacceptable.

The ironic thing to this whole episode is that your view of Bell is totally contradictory to almost all CCFC fans.....:facepalm:

As for evidence, I ask you once again, please provide these 'hate' messages directed at Bell, rather than lazily point CCFC fans to a media site that many have no access to, and a forum containing thousands of pages.

Evidence please.....:thinking about:
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #87
torchomatic said:
Well, you want to read some of the stuff said about him. Pretty hateful. I'm noteven going to bother answering the crap from cheever s bout jews, nazis, my age,me being a parent, etc.

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In that case I'd like you to bring proof of such hateful material to the floor-genuinely, because I haven't read anything on here beyond fierce criticism of his managerial abilities. Nobody on this forum hates Andy Thorn.
 
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cheever

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #88
torchomatic said:
You didn't cheer his goals then or his game changing performance setting up two goals after coming on a sub this season?

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Yes, I have cheered all 6 of them over the past 4 seasons..........:facepalm:
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #89
What has david bell got to do with jews? Some people just like to start arguments for the sake of it!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #90
Otis said:
The problem with him with his crossing and lack of pace is that 8-9 times out of ten his cross is blocked or charged down, or the cross doesn't get past the first man.

Having pace can give you the space to have time to put your cross in. As Bell is so slow when he does beat a man, the defender can very quickly get back into a position where he can still prevent the cross.

I don't care how good anyone says he can be he has pretty much completely underperformed for 3 and half years.
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Like I said Otis, I think fitness is his biggest problem-if he has a really storming pre-season and comes in next season in top condition, I think he could do quite well.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #91
Nick said:
What has david bell got to do with jews? Some people just like to start arguments for the sake of it!
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There's a hilarious joke in there somewhere I'm sure.
 
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cheever

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #92
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In that case I'd like you to bring proof of such hateful material to the floor-genuinely, because I haven't read anything on here beyond fierce criticism of his managerial abilities. Nobody on this forum hates Andy Thorn.
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Absolutely, BSB.

I really do abhor people who make sweeping statements to prove to themselves that their argument is 'stronger' than that of their fellow fans.

No-one hates AT, no-one hates Bell, Baker or even McSheffrey.

Yes, we are frustrated by them, and question their effort, ability, tatcical nous etc at times, but to say that those who criticise Bell (and that must be 90%+ of the fan base) 'hate' him is a completely scandalous use of words to describe YOUR OWN fans.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #93
Nothing. Cheever was apparently making a "good point".

Nick said:
What has david bell got to do with jews? Some people just like to start arguments for the sake of it!
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cheever

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #94
Nick said:
What has david bell got to do with jews? Some people just like to start arguments for the sake of it!
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Nothing, Nick, I was simply stating that using words like 'hate' are appropriate in certain situations....but to use it to describe how we CCFC fans feel about David Beli is a disgraceful way to describe your FELLOW supporters.

Why, has someone complained.....again??? :thinking about:
 
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cheever

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #95
torchomatic said:
Nothing. Cheever was apparently making a "good point".
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As I said, maturity needed to debate...and surely you posses this, Torchy as a 50-something parent....so please debate appropriately, not ducking issues, making inflammatory remarks etc....
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #96
This feud is really fucking tiresome.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #97
I'm not 50 something. You should hone your stalking skills a little. As for inflammatory remarks, people in glass houses.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #98
Couldn't agree more. Cheever likes a cyber fight though it seems.

ajsccfc said:
This feud is really fucking tiresome.
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cheever

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #99
torchomatic said:
I'm not 50 something. You should hone your stalking skills a little. As for inflammatory remarks, people in glass houses.
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Oh dear, Torchy.

This is totally off topic now, so I'm moving on from this 'debate'.

Please take your vitriol elsewhere.

For the record, I DO NOT HATE:

David Bell
AT
Carl Baker
Steve Harrison
Joey Barton
Kofi Annan
David Cameron
Kriss Akabussi
Cliff Thorburn
Cllr Mutton
Phil 'The Power' Taylor
JLS

But I do hate Adolf Hitler.
 

stupot07

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #100
I hate Michael Gove if that helps....
 
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cheever

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  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #101
stupot07 said:
I hate Michael Gove if that helps....
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I've met him...why do you hate him, stupot?
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #102
I hate the rain and sunny weather,
And I hate the beach and mountains too
 
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cheever

New Member
  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #103
No-one hating David Bell yet then....???????
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #104
Keep your lovers tiff to pm, it bores the shit out of everybody!
 
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cheever

New Member
  • Jul 7, 2012
  • #105
Nick said:
Keep your lovers tiff to pm, it bores the shit out of everybody!
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A reply was made to words used....how is that a tiff? can't the language used be questioned by fellow post-ers when they are accused of something they are not?????

Do you 'hate' David Bell, Nick?
 
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